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2012
Phillies Land Centerfielder Ben Revere For RHP Vance Worley
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The Philadelphia Phillies have acquired centerfielder and leadoff man Ben Revere from the Minnesota Twins according to Todd Zolecki of MLB.com. Danny Knobler of CBS Sports says that the Twins are getting right-hander Vance Worley in return.
Revere gives the Phillies a big stolen base threat as well as a tremendous defender with outstanding range in center. The 24 year old has some nice upside and could develop into a quality addition for the Phillies in the years to come. He batted .294 last season with 40 stolen bases and 70 runs scored. CBP should give his weak power numbers a certain spike.
The Phillies give up Vance Worley who missed the final month of the season with an elbow injury, but when healthy the 24-year-old right-hander has a 3.50 ERA in 278 career innings.
To put him into context, he is a year younger than the Mets’ Jon Niese and has better numbers despite pitching in hitters haven Citizens Bank Park, while Niese benefits by the vastness of Cit Field.
Sooner or later our front office must realize that if they want quality, they will have to give up quality or they will be shutout.
So far this offseason is showing that the early bird gets the worm, and there is a steep price to pay for waiting. The Phillies, Braves and Nationals have been the shakers and movers this offseason and unfortunately for the Mets, they all play in the NL East.
Many Mets fans believe the front office strategy is to wait for desperation to set in. Good luck with that.
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Hardly a coup for the Phils who give up an MLB ready young pitcher and a potential #2 pitcher prospect in May. I like Revere and think we’ll be seeing him steal a few bases against Thole but I have to wonder about the Phillies future rotation which is relying on Lee and Halladay to defy time.
I can’t understand this move at all unless the Phillies are looking to spend that money somewhere else, like as the mystery team for Hamilton. Why would they trade those 2 arms for Revere instead of just paying Bourn?
Dont know where I read it but the mystery team seems to be Seattle?
I didn’t think their interest was any mystery.
Who isn’t Seattle interested in?
I mean they signed Jason Bay to an MLB contract!
The market for Bourne seems to be squeezing. The Braves, Phils, and Nats all solved CF; the Red Sox are set since they arent trading Ellsbury; Dodgers and Angels set; the Yankees arent spending even if they trade Granderson. I am just not sure who is left out there for Bourne.
As a Mets fan who spent the last half of childhood in Philadelphia, and who lives relatively still today, there’s a growing sentiment that Ruben Amaro isn’t all that he’s cracked up to be. Revere might be the anti-Alderson OFer, but he’s young, fast, plays a great CF, and makes decent contact. But to give up Worley and May, this is insane. Maybe they’re thinking that their aces will continue to stay healthy in their 30s…oh wait.
I thought the Hanson-Walden swap was a head scratcher, but this? That move is really gonna come back to haunt Philly.
I guess I’m in the minority here, but I like the move for the Phillies.
Revere is a solid player – He’s a good contact hitter, good defender, and is a great base runner. He’s a solid addition to their team,
I think a lot of people are overrating Worley and May. I’m not a big fan of Worley; his stuff really doesn’t impress me. I see him as a good back of the rotation starter and nothing more.
I think the Niese comparison is a stretch – A better comparison I think is Gee.
Worley: 6-9, 4.20 ERA, 1.51 WHIP, and 107 K’s in 133 IP
Gee: 6-7, 4.10 ERA, 1.24 WHIP, 97 K’s in 107 IP.
Gee was statistically superior last season, and I feel there is not much separation between their stuff and their upside. Both ended the season on the DL by the way, so they both are somewhat of an injury risk.
And as for May, he’s got a great arm, but lacks control and had a poor season in AA. He’s not a superstar prospect. I think his future will be in the bullpen.
Hi Vinny. You are in the minority. No matter what deals the Phillies do, most Mets fans automatically find reasons to bash the move. Saw this with Poloanco, Ibanez, Pence, Halladay, Lee, etc. I agree with you, and the deal is a nice pickup for the Phils.
Its not a bad deal when you take into account Worley is a back end starter whom can be replaced and the prospect May still young but far from untouchable. Even more important the Phils are in WIN NOW mode Howard,Utley,Lee,Halladay are all aging and no almost as bad an OF as the Mets.
Not to mention Center fielders seem to be hard to come by nowadays…You see how much Victorino,Pagan and Upton received…not to mention Bournes asking price they get a young leadoff prospect whom had a decent 1st year and can lead off and set the table and give them 40 SB.
Hi BBLB,
We had a center fielder in which the world series champions regarded highly enough to sign to a four year contract amounting to $10 million per year.
We had a right fielder in which the defending world series champions the year before regarded highly enough to give up one of the nation’s top pitching prospects for essentially a two month rental. He then helped his new team get into the post-season this season and is in the second year of a $12 million per year contract.
We traded two thirds of our outfield to the Giants. In sum, that came out to two 2012 all-stars, Angel Pagan and Carlos Beltran for the highly regarded pitching prospect Zach Wheeler (since Andrews Torres and Ramon Rameriz aren’t even with the club anymore).
The reality is:
1) By not having those two all-stars we will save approximately $21.5 million this season (with Wheeler getting minimum rookie salary),
2) By not having those two all-stars last season we saved approximately $11.6 million
3) By not having those two all-stars we also lost 88 games last season as well.
Since the Wilpons would rather drive the team into the ground rather than to sell it, the general manager wound up saving the organization a bit more than $33 million over two years. Again, that is the reality we have to live with.
I once mentioned that a friend of mine last April contended that even if there was no financial problem, these were good moves to make for the short-term struggles would reap it’s benefits for the long-term. Rameriz would provide help as a relief specialist and Torres would be a temporary stop gap in the outfield until one of our minor league prospects took over. He also said he would also always grab on the opportunity to trade an aging but still productive hitter for a prospect like Wheeler even if it meant giving up on a season in which the team he believed was playing over it’s head was very much alive in the hunt for what was then just a single wild card slot.
This way we would not keep upcoming young outfielders of the future buried in the minors and got ourselves the chance of a solid starter in the rotation to compliment the young players we already know of and the Mets could have many years of possible contention.
I know many support the re-building of the team but if these moves weren’t made and instead of Wheeler we still had Pagan in center and Beltran in right, would that actually have thrown a monkey wrench into that re-building? I don’t think so. And while keeping an eye out for the future, we would still be able to keep the other eye out for today.
And with Duda possibly coming back after a disappointing 2012, we would not be talking about outfield problems.
I think I speak for all Mets fans on saying… Thank you Ruben Amaro, where do we send that check?
Worley can’t touch Niese.
Very weird comparison considering one is lefty and a number 3 starter and the other couldn’t get a decent CF strait up in a trade.
What could you get for Niese? Trust me, Revere and then some.
This “I know it all attitude” while also constantly comparing the situation the Mets are in to the situations teams like Philly is in, is getting old.
I know the plan sucks for fans and nobody agrees with the plan the Mets have taken, but guess what? That’s the plan they are sticking with.
The Mets are waiting out bad contracts that eat up at least a third of their payroll and severely limit their flexibility.
Philly, Washington, etc don’t need to wait out horrid contracts. They are flush with cash, and the Mets aren’t. Now, you’re going to get mad that Alderson is deciding to keep the few young cost effective and productive players for the future instead of trading them?
Niese is a pitcher that every team would love. Young, Left handed, cheap, controlled and getting better every season. The Mets are just one season away from getting that flexibility they’ve been waiting for and now you think it’s smart to start trading away the few talented pieces they have managed to develop?
It’s not Aldey’s fault they have precious few pieces on the major league team and in the minors to deal away. Perhaps when Dickey is dealt you’ll be happy with the haul, but it sounds to me like the going rare for 38 yr old Cy Young winners isnt that great at the moment. Maybe they’ll get lucky and the Twins could have another spare, marginally good CF’er to trade for.