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2012
No Less Than Seven Teams Interested In Pelfrey
An article by Hojo's Mojo
Updated Post 12/2
Jon Heyman of CBS Sports writes that no less than seven teams have interest in Mike Pelfrey, adding that there is a need for mid-level starters even if they are coming off Tommy John surgery.
The Mets non-tendered Pelfrey on Friday which you can read more about below.
Updated Post 11/30
The Mets have officially parted ways with former first-round pick Mike Pelfrey. The team declined to offer him a contract before Friday night’s non-tender deadline making him a free agent.
The team also non-tendered outfielder Andres Torres and reliever Manny Acosta. The team tendered contracts to first baseman Ike Davis, second baseman Daniel Murphy, reliever Bobby Parnell and catcher Josh Thole.
The decision to non-tender Pelfrey comes as no surprise considering he earned $5.7 million in 2012 and could not be offered anything less than $4.9 million.
Manager Terry Collins has expressed interest in bringing back Pelfrey as a reliever and to give the team added depth in the rotation, but Pelfrey made clear today his intention is to sign with a team who will give him a starting role. Pelfrey told ESPN New York:
“For me, I prefer to start… It doesn’t make sense to have Tommy John and then go to the bullpen. I feel like I can give a team 200-plus innings, which is pretty valuable. Coming into camp as the extra guy is not something I would want to do… I didn’t work that hard to be an extra guy. I want to take the ball every fifth day. Obviously, numbers-wise, if they have five starters, I wouldn’t come back… If the Mets have five starters, I guess I’ll end up pitching somewhere else.”
Pelfrey, 28, ends his Mets career with a 50-54 record and 4.36 ERA in 149 starts for the club. he expressed gratitude to the team for sticking with him through good times and bad times.
Original Post 11/27
Adam Rubin writes that barring a last-minute trade, the Mets plan to non-tender three players by the Friday night deadline — righthanders Mike Pelfrey and Manny Acosta and center fielder Andres Torres, according to major league sources.
The Mets could bring all three back on lesser one-year deals or minor league deals.
Ike Davis, Daniel Murphy, Bobby Parnell and Josh Thole are all expected to be tendered and will receive significant salary increases.
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No surprises here, right?
Watch Acosta get picked up again by the Mets not long after. They don’t know how to let go (see Nickeas).
Look at Acosta’s splits once he came back from the minors. I would glaldy welcome him back in open arms. I still think he’s better than Franky Frank.
LOL so, by that logic, every time he sucks and balloons his ERA to 11, a trip to the minors will fix everything? Great, another Figueroa. Pass.
No thats not what the splits say….
All they show is you should not bring him up until July, after july he is a pretty good pitcher and before then he is horrible.
Despite his horrible 2012 performance, re-signing Manny Acosta would not be a bad gamble for the Mets. Manny did have four out of five good previous seasons before this one and is young enough to still have a decent career in front of him.
As with many players, however, a change of scenery might do more for Manny than returning to Citi Field.
I felt anger at Sandy all season than that for Torres for Andres was the victim of a trade that looked horrible in the sense that nobody gives up an everyday center fielder for a middle relief specialist and that – as the “throw in”, management placed him in the position of making up for that loss, a role in which was way over his head to begin with. So, as with Acosta, I wonder if because of his New York experience, Torres would be better off somewhere else as well since.
Pelfrey? He is still young and could pick up where he left off last season. Besides, one never has enough starting pitching and he too was a first round draft pick and once a highly rated prospect – if those reasons were good enough to trade Beltran then they are definitely good enough to simply re-sign somebody to a minor league contract.
TC mentioned re-signing Pelfrey for a spot in the bullpen(makes no sense) and Pelfrey said HELL NO lol….not in those exact words but close. He said he’s worked too hard his whole career to be a starter and it would be foolish of him to give that up now.
Pelf also stated that he’s still capable of giving a big league club 200 solid innings and that the worst thing for a pitcher coming off Tommy John surgery is to pitch out of the bullpen. Which makes sense.
He did however leave a window open for a possible return to the Mets by saying,”That he would definitely consider returning to the Mets if someone is traded ouut of the rotation”
In my opinion Pelfrey is a solid starter he just doesnt have a swing and miss pitch. Which is mind boggling due to all the different pitches he throws and his fastball is consistently clocked between 93-96mph. His FB is very straight and he doesnt come inside enough
Don’t shoot me guys…
torres really wasn’t that bad last year. He had a low average, little power and he’s injury prone. But he also had a solid on base percentage, played ok centerfield defense and had good baserunning. Not saying he’s good, just that he’s fine as a 4th outfielder and shouldn’t be lumped in with Jason Bay.
This is the exact reason why i say that OBP makes a ballplayer look better than he really is. This could not be more misguided and more wrong. The guy stunk, he couldn’t hit and looking back watching those games I could not remember one walk with this guy up at bat and rightfully so, there’s no reason to.
But I do remember seeing this guy just flat out stink AB and taking pitches right down the middle with runners in scoring position. And in CF he was certainly no better than Pagan at best and most of the times worse.
Again, using OBP as a primary barometer in players other than leadoff is so misleading, misguided, and flat out wrong i am dumbfounded to say the least how such a thing has caught on so much.
But i do agree that Torres as a backup OFer on any team is fine, no biggie. But looking at OBP as a barometer for judging a guy like Torres is asking for trouble because he’s not too good at so many other things – including overall talent.
Hi Bayonne,
How could you be so dumbfounded about OBP catching on so much? We had a core of Met fans who sincerely thought that for all of Omar’s spending, all he did was lead us into the ground so much that when Sandy was announced as our new GM all that was drummed out at them was that dubious reputation he got with Oakland (that is why the Oakland question is so relevant still today). Though I was not against Omar myself, not knowing much of Alderson before, it was that Oakland myth that made me – like many 0 assume the Mets had made the right decision. This, combined many just eager to find the new anti-Omar that was going to lead us out of the dessert along with the sabers and money ballers, probably led to acceptance of these new approaches of thought.
I’m just dumbfounded that there are so many who fail to understand that percentage range of OBP above batting average has been relatively consistent ever since the mound was lowered and the strike zone reduced back in 1969 yet they treat the appreciation of alternate ways of getting on base as a revelation when it was in fact actually the complete opposite.
And, of course, OBP is as much a reflection of the opposing pitcher and the situation as it is a batter’s eye.
Hi This,
Don’t worry at least of me shooting that gun in your direction – and not just because I have bad aim!
I agree, Torres performed about as well as one could have expected. The problem was as an aging fourth of fifth outfielder who was a career .239 hitter with just one good season (2010) and who had been buried in the minors for much of his career, he should never have been put into the position of being the answer to replace a good starting center fielder in an unpopular trade not helped by the former one having another good year.
I blame Sandy for putting him in such a difficult position – yes, I’m sure Andres was thrilled with the opportunity Sandy gave him, however, he was in over his head and in the overall picture, I wonder if he now feels the opportunity was worth the overall toll and abundance of abuse he took from fans and media alike.
Yeah torres only really had one great year, otherwise he’s pretty much performed like he did this year. i think getting him with ramirez was worth it, especially given ramirez’ last 3 years… What i mean is I don’t really mind playing torres everyday if a great set-up guy comes along. Obviously that didn’t work out.
and by the way, if you shot me I would catch the bullet with my bare hands and instantaneously throw it right through your jugular killing you in .00023 seconds. but nice try
Hi Just,
Superman would just let the bullet bounce off his eyeball and back to me – or, if it was George Reeves, he would let the bullets bounce off his chest and back at me with bored look of ewe so often saw expressed on his face.
Regarding the trade, getting Rameriz wasn’t the problem, it was just us not getting more and giving up too much in return.
Oh, I wouldn’t shoot you, but Torres sucked total crap. He was a baserunning nightmare, and sucked in almost every other sphere of the game. Nothing says lame, everyday scrub like Torres. Good riddance.
Nice to see Sandy making a spate of good moves these days!
Pelfrey should be the only player retained or offered another contract of the three. Hopefully he will have a good 1st half and the Mets can move him.
“Manager Terry Collins has expressed interest in bringing back Pelfrey as a reliever and to give the team added depth in the rotation”
Collins must be reading my comments on MMO
Adios Pelf.
Pelf, we knew ye and ye sucked, or licked, or whatever.
Nice guy, lousy pitcher. Jettison the junk.
Good move, again, Mets FO; keep ‘em coming, and get us a QUALITY OFer.
Pelf wasnt that bad he was a .500 pitcher
He had 2 good seasons and 2 bad seasons with us
He just didnt live up to expectations of being a top 10 draft pick and become a #2 or #3 pitcher in a rotation. Pelf is more than serviceable as a 4 or even better 5 pitcher
And that doesn’t say much for a top draft pick, does it now?
At this point his prior draft status means nil…and you look at him as a pitcher whom has had success and you compare him to other pitchers whom are available.
There’s also the temperament issue, and his recurring inability to get out of jams. I just think we can do better than a 4.4 lifetime ERA guy who’s now recovering from surgery, and has never lived up to his premiere billing with which he arrived.
If this were to be Harvey’s fate in four years, I think I’d tear my hair out!
Leroy if Pelf is picked up by another team who wants to bet that he’s going to have a nice season. Lots of pitchers come back and feel just fine after Tommy John surgery and sometimes they come back even BETTER than they were before.
I have a feeling that this is going to backfire for the Mets.
I too wouldn’t mind Torres back as a 4th (at the most) or 5th outfielder but would rather give the opportunities to a youngster. Two interesting pitchers that were non tendered Jair Jurgens and Brian Wilson. Not sure of any position players.
Good Riddance you POS.. Should’ve been DFA last year, but our genius GM somehow gave him a raised instead and we under him once again ended up losing $5 million that could’ve been used to fill a need. IT’s amazing to see what we as fans have been put through this past 2 years and it continues. Other teams in the division get good, we get the rejects from Oakland and San Diego
Hey Pelf, don’t let the door hit you on the ass
all I can say is THANK GOD.
Pelfrey was a bust…i don’t care what anybody says, he was not mentally strong in any way, and while he pitched decent at times, and had one good year, the promise was what was keeping him here.
that potential should have shown by now and it didn’t
He had 2 good years and 2 bad years….he just didnt live up to expectations and was frustrating to watch on the mound.
He wasnt Anthony Young BAD!
He’s a .500 pitcher/innings eater….who was frustrating to watch on the mound because he’s a giant man 6’7 250 lbs but he had the heart of a 6yr old 50 lb girly girl
Wasn’t he a first round pick with a lot of hype who had control issues as well in the minors while racking lots of strikeout in the minors?? This is why a team nor fan shouldn’t put all their faith on a minor league pitcher, fans have high expectations for a pitcher from the get go then guess what? If that pitcher bombs out then what do you do? start to develop another “Stud”? Pitchers are crapshoot, guys in KC have been studs for years, yet we’ve not seen fruition..
Lol. Anthony Young pitched to a 3.82 ERA as a Met.
A Pelf return if Mets deal Niese or Dickey sounds like a good plan to me. Acosta as last guy in pen for $750K is ok too. Torres doesn’t fit to me as his bat is too weak off the bench. Yes, he can run and play some D, but they need a better bat as the 5th OF.
Mets do not need below .500 pitchers, ours or someone elses. I thought we should have traded him when he won 15. Head case and Boras client not a good mix. Sorry, but not sad to see you go. With Pagan, we should have gone after a prospect and not a head case with one good year late in his career. Acosta, the same thing, another head case, he pitches well with nothing on the line.
Also as a replacement for Torres, Jason Bourgeois might be a good 5th outfielder. He plays all three outfield positions well, and has speed to steal a base.
What do I do with my Big Pelf t-shirt now?
Wash the car
Acosta for around 500/700k is a very good deal. Don’t forget he was among the best relievers on the Mets staff after the all star. And on a team with little money that needs BP arms, he makes all the sense in the world.
Maybe the Mets should see what Feliciano is doing these days. A minor league contract for him would also be a good deal assuming he is ready to pitch.
I think with Pelfrey, several Mets fans forget that he kept the Mets afloat more than once when times were tough. He was never a #1 or even a #2 but was expected to be an ace more than once.
It’d be like the Mets in 2012 expecting Dillon Gee to take the ace spot in the rotation if Johan got hurt in spring training.
I’m rooting for the guy as long as he doesn’t go to the NL East. I think he is a pitcher who needs a solid defense and is just an above average pitcher who got hurt and was streaky.
If that many teams are interested in Pelfrey we should immediatly contact every team on that list and find out what they would give us for Familia or Mejia!
Pelfrey – when healthy – is a solid workhorse # 4 starter who is absolutely alright in that role for any team. Unfortunately with the Mets, their longtime drought of frontline SP and his high draft status, he failed the expectation of being a good # 2 starter or even an ace.
However, once you eliminate emotions, he’s basically a Joe Blanton, Jason Marquis, Jeremy Guthrie or Carl Pavano type of SP.
Fortunately, the Mets have 5 better options for their rotation now and probably going forward as well. So, good riddance Pelf. He wasn’t a bust – but he fell short of high expectations…
If he has 7 teams interested in him, I hope we are NOT one of them. It could also be Scott Boras blowing smoke.