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2012
Myers For Dickey Trade Unlikely
An article by Hojo's Mojo
Updated 7:00 PM
Bob Dutton of the Royals Report believes that the Royals will NOT part with Myers for Dickey. This does not close the door on acquiring Wil Myers through another trade offer, however.
#Royals say talks with #Mets for knuckleballer R.A. Dickey are dead if the price is OF Wil Myers.
— Bob Dutton (@Royals_Report) December 4, 2012
Original Post 1:13 PM
According to Adam Rubin of ESPN New York, multiple sources say the club is still pursuing Kansas City Royals outfield prospect Wil Myers.
The 21-year-old outfielder hit .314/.387/.600 with 37 homers, 109 RBI and 98 runs in 134 minor-league games last season (35 in Double-A, 99 in Triple-A).
The Royals have been very tepid on R.A. Dickey and have been notably rumored in swapping Myers for either Red Sox lefty Jon Lester or Rays right-hander James Shields.
It might take Jon Niese to get into the conversation for Myers or Zack Wheeler.
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If Sandy can pull this off, It would be a wonderful Christmas for a lot of Met fans. I do doubt it though.
THIS. if he get this guy w/o giving up Wheeler, Flores or Tapia… i will change my Id name to Alex68 <3 SanDwright
LMAO
Yeah….not a chance in hell.
Well Christmas might suck because NO WIL MYERS!!!……..
“Bob Dutton Reports— Royals say talks with #Mets for knuckleballer R.A. Dickey are dead if the price is OF Wil Myers.”
https://twitter.com/Royals_Report/status/276108721262837762
Enter Jon Niese.
In all fairness to Alderson they said the same thing about the “Beltran for Wheeler” deal.
“They are not getting a top-40-ranked prospect [in baseball] for Beltran even if they eat all the money [left on his contract],” said an executive from a team that expressed interest in the slugger.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/top_prospects_no_cinch_in_beltran_KTDcqNpX3xTFeVKcxn0wIO
In my opinion a GM who’s job might be on the line or is desperate and see’s Big Dickey as a major piece to make a serious run at the playoff’s this year…..Doesnt give a shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh {shut your mouth} about a Wil Myers or any top prospect if they cant help them NOW!
Welcome to ROUND 2!!!!
David Wright for Myers…. DONE lol..
only kidding people, well, the mets will be fine pitching wise, i think that dickey and a B level prospect can get it done? Maybe we throw lagares and familia???
Dickey (Or Neise),Juan Lagares,Jenrry Mejia (Who I see as a question mark at this point…) for Wil Meyers. The Mets get exactly what they want,a corner outfielder with tremendous power.
It would probably take Flores and one of those arms
I don’t want to see Niese moved, but if it brought back Myers, I’d do that. And if Niese is moved, I still can’t decide if it is better to see about moving Dickey or not. Yeah, it would suck in the short term (2013), but if it brings back a Wheeler type plus another positional player, I would almost think you’d have to consider it. The 2014 FA SP class is fairly deep as well. In the end, it prob. makes sense to only trade either/or on Dickey/Niese.
I floated that idea at one point. Troll Dickey and Niese to see which one gets a GM to pony up a too good to pass up package, and trade the one that gives the best return. And if they each get that kind of offer (from different teams) consider the radical makeover plan and trade them both.
then go find some tide over SP (lannan, pelf, etc.) and gear up for 2014 when you should be able to have some of the system arms available.
Plus you will have the money available to make a run at JJ or someone of that ilk.
If it pans out the way we want, can you imagine Myers and Nimmo in the corners and Kirk in CF for 2014 and up?? While having Flores, Ike and by then who knows a decent C manning the plate? Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
you think Flores will be able to handle 2B on the ML level?
Dickey and Flores for Myers would be my offer. I doubt Moore gets rid of him, but if Sandy could pull it off, it’d be one hell of a win.
Wheeler and Duda for Myers, done!
Keep Dickey.
I agree that Flores would probably be in some kind of deal for a player like Myers regardless of it’s with Dickey or Niese. Plus Flores is blocked by Wrights long term signing. Unless he becomes a 1B.
Dickey, Duda & cash for Myers
send Myers & Wheeler to the Marlins for Stanton.
I’ll have to give you props for originality on that. That’s quite an interesting scenario you propose.
Thanks..and it’s not like I want the Mets to have to face Wheeler multiple times over the next decade or whatever, but honestly if I could have any single one player on the roster right now it would be Stanton. Two top 10 prospects to the fish should be enough especially for an unhappy camper.
Doug, instead of swapping Myers, what about Wheeler, Niese, Flores, and Vaughn for Stanton? I’d rather have two stud OFs instead of one.
We wouldn’t have to face Wheeler for a decade if he’s traded to Miami. They wouldn’t keep him past his arbitration years anyway.
I’d start with Wheeler and Mejia and try to hold Flores. I would not part with Niese. Myers while an awesome prospect is still a prospect. Niese is what he is and to me that is much more valuable.
You gotta give to get. We’ve got to go after Myers. I think Niese + Flores + Mejia = Myers + maybe a further away but interesting prospect like DeShields, Jr. might work. It’s alot to give up, but Myers by most accounts is (i shudder to say it) a ‘can’t miss’ future star. We’d have to do that deal.
IF that goes down, do we keep RA or trade him, if the prospects back are top flight? I’d consider it, sign Lanan, go with Hefner until Wheeler’s ready, sign Cody Ross and hunker down for 2014.
It’s my understanding that the KC Royals are dangling prospects because they want NOW pitchers back. So while I agree in terms of VALUE, Wheeler would make sense – I just don’t see why the Royals would need to make that deal.
If I’m the Royals I ask for Niese, Flores, and a guy who can play a few spots like Spin, Kirk or Turner.
If I’m the Mets I desperately try to get them to take Dickey, Flores and toss in a Familia to sweeten the pot.
Jessep,
According to Joel Sherman Sandy Alderson strongly disagrees saying,
“Mets telling suitors will not go Beltran route with Dickey taking 1 star prospct. Want multiples because: 1) new team gets Dickey for full yr, not half 2) can tender offer to get draft pick comp if leaves after ’13 3) outstanding pact ($5M) with legit chance to extend”
https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/276044453721026560
If that is his stance, Dickey will remain a Met.
I still think Toronto is the best fit if they can let go of Travis D and Gose for Dickey.
Toronto just needs an add-on SP. Boston & TX need an ace-type hurler. If RA gets traded, i think it’ll be to either of those teams.
Texas makes a ton of sense to get him. All depnds on what they will give up, but they seem to have plenty of good talent to spare some!
I’d take Travis D’Arnaud wouldnt touch Gose he sucks he is speed and nothing more….
he’s a very good fielder, plus speed and is only 22 years old.
I’m not saying he’d be an offensive juggernaut but to play CF in today’s MLB if you can get away with a .700 ish OPS in CF if you have speed and defense. Especially in the NL.
Jessep,
What Im saying is he is no better than Matt Den Dekker both good defenders in CF, Speed although gose is faster, both strikeout like its no tomorrow, Dekker much more power….Its a wash IMO
Gose is 3 years younger than Den Dekker and Gose hit .223 in the Major Leagues this year. Den Dekker hit .220 in AAA this year.
Sorry I can’t agree with you that they are the same. At 22, Den Dekker was in the Sally league, not cracking a big league roster.
Goes is 3 years younger, a better fielder, faster, hits for a higher average, walks more, has more power potential, steals way more bases, strikes out less, has a better swing, and is ranked way higher than den dekker on the prospect lists. This is a joke.
I agree except Den Dekker is an incredible defender in CF. He’s not as good as Gose offensively but defensively he can cover CF with anybody.
I guess Fonzie, make them equal defensively. Gose is freakin ridiculous out there though.
Almost Everything you said “IS STUPID” like your name.
The only thing you got right was faster, and him being younger.
Gose is younger
Dekker is a better fielder
Gose is faster
Dekker more power(Dekker34 career HR’s in “2 seasons” to Gose 31HRs in “4 seasons”)
They both Strikeout at an ALARMING RATE……but would you rather the leadoff man with no power that K’s a lot{Gose} or the power hitter that k’s{Dekker}??? Power hitter everytime
And the both walk around the same rate annually 40- 50 times
You make some asinine statements sometimes…I feel very uncomfortable talking to you sometimes its like picking on a special Ed student.
Gose hit .223 with “59K’s in 166AB’s”….nothing to write home about.
“At 22, Den Dekker was in the Sally league, not cracking a big league roster.”
You Failed to mention Dekker was also drafted out of college at age 22 as well…so lets not make it seem as if he was stuck in the Sally….it took Dekker 2 years to get to TripleA….It took Gose 5yrs in the minors to make it to TripleA not to mention Gose has hit for .262AVG or below every year til he reached the PCL(extremely hitter friendly league) in which he could only muster a .286AVG with no power….Thats not much of a prospect….
Im not saying one is better than the other all im saying is Gose hasnt shown any improvement on his potential in 5yrs and i dont see him bringing more to the table than Den Dekker…not that dekker will or wont be better but im not trading Dickey to acquire him as a piece of that deal. No thanks we will agree to disagree….
Fun fact: Gose and Den Dekker’s B-day happen to be on the same day, Aug 10.
I think the Royals want an established starter. I don’t think they want a Wheeler. They’d probably prefer Niese.
I’d want a bullpen arm in addtion to Myers.
I’m hoping for Salvador Perez to join Myers in that deal.
Perez would be a great add-on in the deal, but KC would be very light on Catchers if they traded Perez. Might have to do a 3-way with Boston for Salty.
Doubt KC takes RA in a deal for Myers, but worth a shot, with Niese the likely key piece if a deal is done.
Wheeler, Duda, Spin, Mejia for Stanton & Escobar
lol
Wheeler is a good start for Stanton. The other 3 would get you laughed at.
Wheeler, Ike, and Flores land you G-Stanton…
I only do that trade if we IMMEDIATELY Lock up Stanton til age 32-33 at a decent rate ( 7-8 mil per year )
Stanton is WORTH that package…only because Ike Davis likely is not going to resign here…
this is what happens when you play politics with guys that have more leverage.
Wheeler is the best prospect we have, the only real potential ace we have. I am not trading him. Any of those other guys fine. Teams need to develop ace pitchers.
Even though I love the Dickster, I would trade him straight up for this bad boy in a hot second. I doubt the cheap Royals are interested in this trade even though they are dying for a true ace SP. Interesting- Martino and his Mets source refute Bowden’s claim that Dickey and his agent are seeking 3yrs. and 45MM while also voiding his 5MM option for next season and replacing it with 1 of these years. Marrtino insists Dickey is willing to accept 2 years on the contract extension and less than Peavy got 29MM on top of next years 5MM option year. Now, acc. to Davidoff, the Mets are contemplating recent non-tendered HR meathead Mark Reynolds for the OF- although his 7MM price tag might be too high. Can you imagine the Mets corner OF defense with this guy and Duda?
I can imagine a lot of homeruns, but incredibly bad defense.
The Mets are considering Reynolds now? Weird. The other day, Joe D and I were talking about Reynolds as a possible addition to the bench and power bat to replace Hairston.
We better trade for this guy cause im hearing the rays are coming out with shields for this kid. Royals would be stupid not to trade him for shields
No surprise. It probably has to be Niese + Flores + Mejia or Familia for Myers + another prospect. I’d do that. We need a young thumper from the right side.
Two words. Trade Niese. We need this kid.
I proclaimed Myers for Dickey dead 4 days ago. Thought it was ridiculous the second I first heard it.
i do think Niese + Flores + Familia = Myers and either Bonifacio (which i doubt KC does) or Zimmer or DeShields, Jr.
Deshields jr is an Astros prospect.
And when did Myers become so much more valuable than Niese??? Yes he has potential to be an exceptional talent but so does 100 or more other prospects in the minors….For instance Eric Hosmer was Wil Myers last year now after he struggled all last year batting .232AVG, 14HR 60RBI’s there are doubts about him adjusting….its potential so lets not over rate Myers
He put up 1 monster homerun year in the PCL!!!!!!!!!!! Every stadium there is like playing at Coors field in Colorado…..prior to this season he’s hit only 8HR’s in 2011, and 14HR’s in 2010 and he isnt a burner.
Sure Dickey is 38 but dude just won the CY young as the BEST pitcher in the National league on a horrible Mets team he dominated and was very good the 2 years before that….and he only cost $5M this year and will be a easy sign for a fair amount
But Myers is #3 prospect in baseball and #1 OF. 1 bad year @ NWA / Tex League in ’11 .254 8hrs / 354AB’s…in ’12 same team / same league, .343 13hrs in 134AB’s…then in PCL 24hrs in 368AB’s–okay, okay, thin air…but c’mon!
Ki’s a stud…gotta get him.
Totally agree. If there’s one thing that I would love to happen this week or at some point soon is for the Mets to acquire Myers. Niese and a few others should do it. Hey, if that’s all we come back with at the end of the week, I’ll be satisfied.
Chicago that Dickey rant wasnt directed at you lol just the DeShields comment
hey NP. i blew it on DeShields, Jr.– it’s all in the fine print! But he’s a great prospect and a burner!
And notice the spin from KC sources is not that they won’t trade Myers, just not for RA.
If we put Niese in a package of others, we get Myers. Niiese’s value is far higher than many think. A cheap, effective, young lefty under control for next 4 years. Done deal.
I’d rather trade Dickey for Alex Gordon plus maybe like a reliever.
I like Gordon’s all around game but he’s another LH bat. I would prefer a RH bat. I would probably do that deal anyway since we don’t have any bats in the OF.
I’m just not so sure about Myers. He seems like a flavor-of-the-month type prospect. Those 37 HRs really jump out at me, until I realize they’re in the PCL…
No way do the Royals trade Gordon for dickey
I don’t know…I still see the Royals trading Myers for Dickey. Moore has repeatedly said he want a front line starter and that they’re usually too expensive in terms of cash for his team to get. Dickey is a front line starter…I’m sorry but he is. He has a track record of consistently great pitching for 3 years now and is cheap in a market where number 4 starters are making 10 mill a year. He’s a number 1 that makes 5 million.
The Royals are under pressure to win something this year after two decades of crap and they do not want to move their already proven hitters in a deal. I think in the end, the thought of finally competing is going to overwhelm their sense of building for the future. When you are a great pitcher away from doing something you’ve waited 20 years for, why are you going to let a prospect who you really don’t need stop you?
Is it a crazy deal to trade such a great prospect? Hell yes it is. But let’s not forget the mets are dealing their best pitcher here, so it’s just as crazy for them. You deal from strength and it should hurt and help both teams. If I’m the mets, I don’t trade Dickey unless I get a talent like Myers because Dickey IS that great as well.
If they don’t land Lester or Shields I could see them panic and trade Meyers for Dickey although they could ask for another one of our better prospects to go along with Dickey. They do have Bubba Starling who’s going to be a monster.
BBLB, I stopped interacting with “this is stupid” when I realized he was just a boy. He talks about Gose as if he’s watched him play in person a dozen times. You’d be smarter to just ignore him like I do. I don’t mind kids commenting here, in fact I think it’s cool to see them involved and engaged. But this one tells you all you need to know by the name he posts with.
Anybody else see this? These guys are flat-out trying to bully me because I’m a kid. That’s real cool.
Nobody bullied you. I simply told BBLB to ignore you.
Settle down Rookie, they aren’t bullying you…. Yet.
I said trying… :p
Lol, you will know when they actually start trying.
This, I can also vouch for lol
THIS^^^
They’re cool with kids.
I can vouch for that… lol.
I see the Texas Rangers as the most likely landing spot for Dickey if Sandy trades him if they lose out on Greinke to the Dodgers or Angels. A baseball source told Martino the same. Now, is a package of CF prospect Leonys Martin and SP prospect Justin Grimm or closer prospect Wilmer Font enough back in trade for the Dickster?
Yeah the loser of the Grinke sweepstakes will be the highest bidder for Dickey.
What about a three way with Dodgers and Dbacks.
Dodgers get Dickey
Mets get Upton
Dbacks gets Lee, Gordon and Flores???
Possible, but I think Sandy will want more that Justin Upton. He’s going to keep going after Wil Meyers also. The Dbacks need up the middle defenders so they could shift Flores, a natural 3B, to SS or 2B. I think that Sandy will hold on to Flores because he could be used as a part of a package for Myers.
That sounds really good for everybody involved. Too bad it’s never gonna happen.
The loser will be the biggest bidder for Shields not Dickey. Nobody is going ape shit for Dickey.
Not a fan of Justin Upton.
His road splits really concern me…
I would rather have Stanton
I say trade Neise for Wil Meyers & even if you have to sweeten pot give them a minor leaguer. This has to be done as Myers is the one we need.
I’ll take myers for neise any day if the week… In fact I would give up two neise’s for one wil myers
Well, guys, this is interesting conversation concerning Wil Myers, and what you think might land him from the Royals. It’s gonna take a LOT more than Dickey or Neise to land this young man. And I mean a LOT. Of all the Mets pitchers, Dickey is probably the safest bet, and to be sure, the Royals would love to have him. I don’t necessarily think the deal for Dickey to the Royals is dead since I think it could happen with other Royals prospects, i.e., Bonafacio, Ventura, etc. IF the Royals trade Myers, it will be for a front end pitcher, but one younger than RA. Oh, and whoever thought Salvy Perez would be a good “throw in” catcher,,,,uh, apparently you’re wearing East Coast Bias Goggles and have no clue how much the Royals think of this guy. They wouldn’t trade Salvy for Dickey, Neise AND Wright combined. He’s worth more.
Oh yeah, Neise for Myers isn’t gonna get it done either. Really, the Mets are simply not a good trading partner with the Royals at this time. They simply don’t have the right pieces to get a deal for Wil Myers done. If they had someone like say, Jermey Hellickson or Matt Moore, then yeah, there might be a deal there.
Thanks for your perspective and your input.
Thanks Rich_KC but i disagree. Niese’s 13 – 9 3.40 era, .9 hits /IP,3.16 Ks/BB, .241 avg, 1.17 WHIP can be argued to be better stats than either Moore or Hellickson, and Niese did it with a poor team with weak up-the-middle D and maybe average OF D.
No, IF Mets include Niese + a pakacge, i think your team does the trade.
If we acquired Myers…would u flip him to the Marlins for Stanton?
Whoa, how much more would we have to give?
Considering it would most likely take Niese+ for Myers ( I could be wrong) how much more would we be willing to give for Stanton?
As much as I love Stanton, I think I would just take my shot with Myers.
Na, Im thinking you trade Niese for prospects in one deal + Dickey for prospects in another to get Stanton, Profur ( or andrus ) and Travis + Gose.
I like Myers too but Stanton is the bird in hand vs the two in the bush ( myers )
I saw Stanton hit a ball damn near 500 feet…against MLB pitching. a sure thing at 22 yrs old
To get stanton, you have to take prospects from one of those deals, combine them with prospects in your own system, its a 5 prospects for 1 player deal.
Dont laugh…but at the rate they are going, I see Florida competing for a division title before NY
Holy crap.
I won’t laugh.
While I “hear” what you’re saying about Niese and his comparative stats, I think the perception a lot of baseball people have of him is that he’s not a particularly hard worker and great clubhouse guy. Don’t flame me, because I don’t know that he is or isn’t, it’s just things I’ve heard around Kansas City, and on natioanl talk shows (Bowden and Stearn). Casey Stearn, an alleged Mets fan, seems to be really down on Neise. At any rate, I think Dayton Moore is looking for a “bigger” name than Neise. Certainly, this is all speculation on my part. I sure hope like hell we don’t trade Myers for Dickey or Neise….Wil is the best pure hitting prospect we’ve seen in KC since Brett.
thats weird… maybe because of the late season collapses? or the nose job
“I think the perception a lot of baseball people have of him is that he’s not a particularly hard worker and great clubhouse guy.”
Whoa!!!! Ive NEVER heard any of those things about Niese…EVER!! If anything Ive heard the opposite about him especially this year. How hard he worked on his conditioning so he could be stronger down the stretch…And it payed off this year— Also no way in the world would the Mets and Alderson sign him to that nice new deal if he was any of those things that Stearn(whoever he is)and that idiot Bowden said.
A lot of us Mets fans myself included are not as high on Wil Myers and wouldnt trade Niese for Moore straight up.In our opinion Myers strikeout rate is extremely high and he went Homer crazy in the hitter friendly Texas league & PCL with 37Homers after struggling for the whole year prior. I know the knee injury was the blame but, we’ve seen the hype behind other Royals TL/PCL super prospects whom have struggled in the pro’s most notably Eric Hosmer &Mike Moustakas.
Not to mention our former prospect Fernando Martinez whom was picked up by the Astros played in the PCL this year and all of a sudden he’s hitting well above .300 ….315avg to be exact and hes never hit above .300 at any stop in the minors.
Thanks for your take from the other side though good to hear what others think of your team.
I dont know but werent Hosmer and Moustakas once this years Myers? And how did that turn out so far? Both are not even close to what was projected. I know they are still young but after all the hype both got they kind of disappoint.
Perhaps we should all take that into consideration when we talk about Dickey – Myers straight up!! Especialy when Myers going to NYC with all the hype that he will bring as the next great slugger.
BINGO!!!!!!!!!
Exactly what I said above!!!!
Prior to this year Myers stock was in a steady decline similar to our Wilmer Flores stock, dropping fast…knee injury was said to be the cause but his production prior to this year was far from spectacular.
Amazing what the PCL can do for a prospect. When we got Brad Emaus Amazin Avenue did their top Mets prospects and ranked him top Mets prospect! The PCL was kind to him too.
Trade Dickey for Mike Olt…
Trade Olt + Familia for Stanton..
You just traded Dickey + Familia for Stanton
Resign Stanton to a 8 year 80 mil deal with a 1 year vested option for 30 mil
Resign Ike to a 6 year 50 mil deal with a 1 year vested option for 30 mil
Resign Duda to a 5 year 30 mil deal with a 1 year vested option for 20 mil
You now have 1B, 3B, RF, LF locked up
Trade Niese to Toronto for Travis + Gose
You now have the Catcher spot locked up
CF is the only OF spot you are worried about and you have Gose, Den Dekker, Kirk, Spin, Legares, Puello and 100 others you can groom
As far as the infield….
SS and 2B to me are issues are concern…
i still say Myers is a ++ MLB-ready prospect. Only 1 bad year. Last year he hit 13hrs in 134AB’s in the TX League–excellent production.
Also, Duda’s bat looked porous last year. That guy must hit with power because he can’t field. i was an early supporter of Duda but now i think the jury’s out on the kid–although i hope he does produce for us.
I would like to see what our young players are doing in the off-season to improve their speed and defense.
The biggest obstacle to large success is being satisfied with a little.
In my opinion, the kids on the mets would improve if they all played winter ball and continued honing their craft. If they approached baseball the way football players approached football….we would see a much better product on the field.
LOL, if the Rangers could get Stanton for Olt and a minor league pitcher why the hell wouldn’t they just trade for Stanton themselves?
I wish we’d trade for Stanton…..
The rangers are looking for pitching. We supply them with pitching. we get prospects. we use some of those prospects to get stanton.
We would have to buy out all of stantons arb years and at least 2 free-agent years as a pre-req to the deal.
the mets should be in cost-control mode. which is different from cost-cut mode.
Sorry but the Rangers are also looking for OF and again if they could get a guy like Stanton for that type of trade then they would tell Hamilton to go… and use the money to sign Grienke and add Stanton and Zack to a loaded team.
What if they keep Josh?
Damaja, I was with you up until you mentioned resigning Duda. He isnt worthy of being locked up as of yet and is more of a DH. Better off listening to KC about what they want for Myers so you have CF and RF locked down for the next decade. Everything else is on point.
I would wait to see if he has dedicated himself to being in tip top shape and improving his speed and defense.
If so, I would lock him up, nothing crazy…a 5 mil avg should be fair for both sides. People forget, locking up a young player in a long term contract that is very payable INCREASES his value.
If Duda hits 25 HR this year and is assured of being no higher than a 5 mil player for the next 5 years…that makes him a MUCH better trade chip.
You pay to control costs, potentially keep or potentially trade for a much higher return.
The Mets should be doing this with Parnell, Ike, Tejada, Murph, Duda, and if Harvey proves to be a stud, lock him up too
u dont wait til they are in their 3rd year of arb to do that…
SideNote:
I notice that when F-Mart hits well in the PCL league, everyone makes his numbers sound inflated…
when its Travis + Wil Meyers, not so much….
any reason why?
Possibly because it’s his 4th year in AAA and he hasn’t been able to prove he’s more than a AAAA player and he’s 24
Myers is 21 and just completed his 1st year at AAA and D’Arnaud is a 23 year old catcher who just completed his 1st year in AAA.
I’m not sure about the inflated part, but in terms of value – that is likely why people don’t put much stock in FMart’s 2012 AAA season and more in the other two
yes…its his fourth year in AAA because he was a 19 year old in AAA….he played in AAA at age 23 ( same age as Travis ) and is now producing just as good….at the same age…in the same league…
Martinez was def rushed to justify the hype, he was 19 playing CF on the major league level in 2009….because Beltran and everyone else was injured…
but he def appears to be getting over that…and at the ancient of 23 years old…this was his best year so far..
when he does it…the first thing folks said was the thin air contributed to his .320 average ( which makes zero sense…as the timing of your swing affects whether the ball is hit toward the ground, a linedrive or popped up )
there are some strange folks here who defy logic in order to make a point
I have advocated trading for either travis, myers, because i dont care about the thin air in the PCL league. If u suck, it doesnt matter what league u hit in
I guess we can put to rest the Myers to the Mets talk. Seems like our vaunted GM Dayton Moore shot his load on a quality #2 starter (Shields) that we’ll have for this and next year, then SEE YA.,,,,and a bullpen guy in Wade Davis. Not only for Shields but jake Odorizzi (15 wins, sub 4 ERA-in the PCL), and power hitting 3B prospect in Leonard and reclamation project Mike Montgomery. As much as I respect Sandy Alderson, I the Andrew Freidman is the only GM in baseball capable of raping the Royals the way he just did. Oh well, we haven’t won a darn thing since 1985, why should I ever expect more? This trade just set the Royals back 6 years, but hey, in another 6 years of drafting high first round picks, we can maybe trade away one of those for nothing!! yippee…it’s really swell to be a Royals fan. In this thread, Mets win.