Comments on: MMO Mailbag: Twins Willing To Trade?

By: Wallyboy

Wallyboy — Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:18:14 +0000

Lets just sign Hairston despite him not being an everyday outfielder, I would rather do that than trading prospects, giving up draft picks, or over paying for old declining players. Signing Sizemore could work in addition to Hairston since he would be coming back mid-season and thats usually when the mets have needed an infusion of new blood and haven’t gotten the last two seasons (under SA). Call me dilusional but i like our current outfield with kirk and duda, its not stellar but functional. Give kirk a full year and lets see what happens better yet hire a better hitting coach, lol.

By: TruthsaboutMurphy

TruthsaboutMurphy — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:25:44 +0000

Familia and Flores are nice prospects, but nobody is trading proven major league talent like Upton for them. You need prospects that rank within the top 20 in baseball, not guys who rank withing the top 20 on the mets…

Familia is a bullpen arm, Flores can’t play any position well. You’d have to give up Wheeler to get Upton.

By: Donal

Donal — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 20:45:16 +0000

Believe it or not, Soriano’s actually been a pretty solid performer the last few years. Not $18 MM a year, but pretty solid.

By: TRS86

TRS86 — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:34:47 +0000

Donal if he was free, I would certainly take him. And by free, the same amount Omar paid for GMJR.

By: Donal

Donal — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:17:21 +0000

Meh, just throwing it out there. Trying to address the issue from another angle.

By: Russell Zanca

Russell Zanca — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:55:51 +0000

Donal, we often are in sync. Not regarding Soriano: the man is aging too quickly. His fielding sucks. He’s a K machine. He sure has power, but I think he’s in twilight of career and would give us next to nothing. Would never want him as an everyday player.

By: Russell's Mets

Russell's Mets — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:23:35 +0000

Flores and Familia is not getting you Upton. They have been asking for the Moon and the Sun for Upton (from other teams), if it’s not Wheeler and Niese, then they’ll ask for Niese, Synderguard, and Flores. Not worth it if you ask me, not even close,. I much rather give up that package for Mike GianCarlo Stanton

By: Boomer

Boomer — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:57:02 +0000

Not yet anyway. He’s looking for a 3 year deal comparable to what Willingham got.

By: 51s

51s — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:54:23 +0000

Ah the Alderson free help… alaways distracting real fans by trying to get them to think the Met front office will get a guy making some dough. Wake yup and be your own person. You’ll sleep at night when you want not when this clown allows you to.

By: Metstheory22

Metstheory22 — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:49:54 +0000

Just baseball, Wow.

By: gorgeguy

gorgeguy — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:47:47 +0000

Willingham won’t happen. Hairston’s not awful, but a .299 OBP is definitely below average for an everyday OF. There was a lot of all or nothing with him.

Cody Ross may end up being another bust, but he is the most straight-forward route to getting a RF. Although, he’s a gamble at $10 million a year as he only hit .232 away last year (thinking Jason Bay here). However, he did hit .303 at Citi Field and .281 over the last 3 years with runners in scoring position.

So should the Mets’ lon FA be Cody Ross? Does 2 years $15-18 million sound attractive enough to get him?

By: peter

peter — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:47:18 +0000

No its not worth it, not even close to worth it.

By: Donal

Donal — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:19:25 +0000

That is my question. How do we convince the Cubs to eat most of it?

By: Christopher Masiello

Christopher Masiello — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:17:53 +0000

Who’s gonna pay that salary? The Wilpons?

By: Donal

Donal — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:12:08 +0000

I know his defense is lousy, but what would it take to get the Cubs to eat most of Soriano’s salary in a deal? His road splits are pretty good and he is right handed with power.

If we could send Duda and a mid level prospect, we’d be in a slightly better spot.

By: jessep

jessep — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:03:47 +0000

You think so? I’m not sure about that honestly. It would totally depend on how much or how little they value a kid like Flores along with somebody like Familia. Those are two very strong prospects in my eyes that are 1-2 years away rather than 3-4. If you pair them up and build a deal around them, I don’t see it as that bad of an offer.

By: DrDooby

DrDooby — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:00:43 +0000

Sure, but to get him, you´d probably have to sacrifice Niese & Wheeler. Which would be very counterproductive to what the goal is, i. e. create a strong pitching staff.

It´s still too early for the Mets to make a major move to add shortterm talent (even if Upton certainly qualifies as medium term, being under contract through 2015).

The Phillies & Yankees probably don´t and won´t have the talent needed to acquire Upton at any point over the next 12-18 months. And while the Braves may, I´m not sure they´ll have space for his 14+ million salary. They have a very hard cap around 90-100 million $ annual payroll and don´t seem to have a lot of flexibility.

By: jessep

jessep — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:32:22 +0000

Dr Dooby – I appreciate the comment. I think with teams like Philly, Atlanta, and even the Yanks involved – if you want Upton, you better get him in 2013.

His contract even makes more sense than what it’d cost to sign lets say Ellsbury.

As much as I question Upton’s validity away from Arizona as of late, I can’t deny that he could make a world of a difference for the Mets

By: DrDooby

DrDooby — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:24:20 +0000

At this point, it makes very little sense for the Mets to give up significant pieces in a trade for Willingham – who is signed to a very friendly contract.
I suppose he´d cost at least Mejia, Duda and one of the better A-ball arms like Montero, Tapia, Fulmer or DeGrom. Don´t think that´s such a bright move considering where the Mets stand right now.

Again, while patience is tough to endure, for now, it doesn´t make a lot of sense to invest in any sort of dramatic shortterm upgrades – be it financially or in terms of parting with young talent.

First you need to get young talent such as Harvey, Wheeler, D´Arnaud, to a lesser degree Nieuwenhuis, Mejia or Familia established in the majors (in 2013), then you trade for missing pieces. Not make major moves, as boring and uninspiring as it may be.

A year from now, you can either sign free agents like Choo, Ellsbury and others or trade for a Justin Upton, Carlos Gonzalez, Andre Ethier, Josh Willingham or whoever is available once you have a much better idea of where you stand.

By: ifthevansrockin

ifthevansrockin — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:18:19 +0000

The issue with Willingham and Cuddyer will always be how much they want to invest in 1-2 year tied over guys that will have no part of the hoped for revival in 2014+. That includes money and prospects.

What I would like to see though is at least guys that can play real defense if they are bringing someone in.

Upton though, he at least is signed long enough and is young enough to be considered a foundation piece.

at this point, if they can at least find a decent glove RH hitting platoon partner (big splits welcome!) that would be a huge boost.