Comments on: MMO Flashback: The Evolution of the Mets’ All-Time Hits Record http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html Fri, 24 May 2013 00:37:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: jdon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-328772 jdon Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:06:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-328772 Met records are clown records. They border on embarassing.

]]> By: Just-Da-Damaja http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-328649 Just-Da-Damaja Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:57:25 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-328649 When we gave up on Piazza, we got LoDuca, who outproduced Piazza that year and our 2006 team made us forget all about the 2005 team

Duda has not had the same effect

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-328641 Metsie Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:13:49 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-328641 Yes which is pretty much why I don’t put much stock into CLUB records whenever they are brought up….

Wright has it now and it’s going to be the holder of that for a long time as it’s going to be difficult to find a guy who hits .300 and has as much time on the team as Wright will if he finishes his contract here…

At least we don’t have to hear about Kranepool being the Hits leader anymore…
I have no problem with the guy but he is hardly who I associate with the phrase “great Met Hitters”

]]> By: Hotstreak http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-328638 Hotstreak Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:04:15 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-328638 Metsie you are correct. There are a lot of players who have good career records based on longevity. A 100 hit a year player over 20 years has 2,000 hits. A 15 hr hitter over 20 years has 300 hrs. Conclusion a mediocre player based on longevity like Ed Kranepool could put up career numbers that are really overstated.

]]> By: ray sadecki http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-328621 ray sadecki Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:33:19 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-328621 Thanks to Ed for a fun read and thanks for reposting it for a nice Christmas read.

]]> By: ray sadecki http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-328620 ray sadecki Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:32:04 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-328620 My memories of Hunt were when he was an expo and trying his best to get hit with a pitch every ab. I think he wore a flak jacket or something.
Cleon had a pretty good year in 1969 too. :D

]]> By: ray sadecki http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-328619 ray sadecki Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:29:16 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-328619 Nice prose. Makes me want to dig up that old grand funk tune. :D

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-328613 Metsie Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:09:00 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-328613 No Hotstreak what I’m saying is a crappy hitter who stays on the team 20 Years is going to hold the record despite having 10 guys who are all GREAT hitters who only lasted 5-10!

Even the best hitters do not get twice as many hits as the worst…

Even a .200 hitter gets 100 hits in 500PA
a .300 hitter get only 150 in 500PA

So a great hitter with X number of years of service can lose the title to a crappy hitter with 1.5 times that same service….

Has nothing to do with the Hall, OR if the guy was actually a good hitter either…

You stay a long time you get the record and the longer you are here the less you REALLY have to hit to take the title.

]]> By: Hotstreak http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-328610 Hotstreak Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:01:21 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-328610 Metsie:

To follow your thinking it means nothing unless you go in the HOF. That is the be all end all “results test”. AND you must have a Mets cap. There is no everyday player who has done that. What a pathetic team again not one position player fits plaque and cap test. None on the horizon either as Piazza will not have a Mets cap and DW only have a plague in his mouth.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-328580 Metsie Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:43:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-328580 I never really ever paid much attention to CLUB records merely for the fact that they have more to do with service time than anything to do with actual skill….

If Hunt hadn’t missed a majority of the 65 season he would have got the Hit recrod that year.
Kranepool took it over because Hunt left that year.
Jones actually WAS a good Hitter (like Hunt) and he and Kranepool went back and forth that year on ownership forgetting that Kranepool actually had a 3 year head start on Jones.
71 was Jones’ best hitting year (.319 BA) and he declined after that and was never the same.

In the end it took Hunt a mere 4 years
Jones 7 if you discount his short 63 Callup (9 years if you want to count from his first Met appearance and two years of MiL service)
Kranepool took 5 years to get it and continued to hold it until Jones caught up to him

Then there is Wright Who it took 9 years to catch up to Payson’s Pet and now will likely hold that title until he retires because there isn’t a Met with enough time to ever challenge him for that title…

In the end none of our best hitters have ever held the title. We simple never kept them long enough to beat Kranepool long service accrued lead. David got Kranepools record in half the service time so at least in his case it does now reflect the better hitter out of any who were on the list.

Good Piece Ed I just wanted to point out that any mention of Club Records must include the service time of the guy who has it because especially when it comes to hits it’s more about how long you been here than how good you actually are.

]]> By: Angelo http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-328567 Angelo Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:25:26 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-328567 beltran and reyes are gone , its pathetic to bring them up , maybe add piazza or wait, every above average player we ever lost . jeez

]]> By: Hotstreak http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-328562 Hotstreak Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:45:33 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-328562 No Beltran, No Reyes, No Dickey but we have our captain
O Captain! my Captain! our fearful trip has only begun,
Our ship has weather’d every rack, Are we on the Wright track?
Where on the deck is my Captain ?
He is speaking platitudes and turning hot and cold
O Captain! my Captain! rise up and lead us ,
Our eager faces are waiting;
O Captain, O Captain lead us to be competitive and
To The Promised Land

]]> By: Bill Sylvester http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-285611 Bill Sylvester Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:33:54 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-285611 Great research! Wonderful article! WOW!
Ed Leyro you da man!

Kudos to David Wright and Ed Kranepool a(nd Cleon, Ron, Gus, Felix, Jim and Frank) for all the memories!

]]> By: Original Mets Fan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-285326 Original Mets Fan Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:55:31 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-285326 Poor Cleon Jones. Grant treated him with such disdain and it was undeserved. Grant had a knack for getting the press to turn on anyone he didn’t like. If a player looked at him wrong you could bet there would be a hatchet piece in the next day’s papers. He had Dick Young as his personal PR man and at his beck and call.

]]> By: Lareplus http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-285258 Lareplus Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:42:10 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-285258 Reactivate Ed Kranepool!

]]> By: srt http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-285185 srt Thu, 27 Sep 2012 02:33:02 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-285185 Great article.
Enjoyed the trip down memory lane. I had forgotten all about how and why Cleon Jones ended his career here.

Contrats to David Wright. He deserves to be heading this list now.

]]> By: Sloatsburg Mets Fan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-285178 Sloatsburg Mets Fan Thu, 27 Sep 2012 01:55:42 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-285178 Congrats To D. Wright!!! I hope he spends his entire career with the Mets. Hopefully gets a ring too.

]]> By: XtreemIcon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-285173 XtreemIcon Thu, 27 Sep 2012 01:33:23 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-285173 Excellent job.

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-285171 Joe D Thu, 27 Sep 2012 01:13:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-285171 WOW!

Ed, outstanding piece and tremendous job! You really knocked it out of the park with this one.

Congrats to David Wright and I hope he’ll be still be a Met for hit number 2,000 and 2,500!

]]> By: Mr North Jersey http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/mmo-flashback-the-evolution-of-the-mets-all-time-hits-record.html#comment-285169 Mr North Jersey Thu, 27 Sep 2012 01:09:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97323#comment-285169 Wow! Talk about digging down and doing some research. Awesome job with this post Ed.

Congrats to David Wright on becoming the Mets All Time Hits Leader. Since the day he put on a Mets uniform he has done nothing to embarrass it and has been a class act. I hope he and the Mets can come to some agreement that is favorable for both sides that sees him continue to set more Mets records and more importantly win a W.S. in a Mets uniform.

]]>