18
2012
Mets Trade Jefry Marte To A’s For Minor League Outfielder Collin Cowgill
An article by Hojo's Mojo
The Mets have announced they have acquired OF Collin Cowgill from the A’s in exchange for Minor League infielder Jefry Marte.
Cowgill, 26, was part of the package that went from Arizona to Oakland in last offseason’s Trevor Cahill deal.
After a solid season at Triple-A in 2011, he slumped this season with Triple-A Sacramento batting .254 with four home runs and 37 RBI in 61 games. After being called up to the A’s, he batted .269 with a home run and nine RBI in 38 games. He owns a .255/.319/.311 batting line through 216 plate appearances in the big leagues.
He’s capable of playing all three outfield spots and hits right-handed, so Cowgill has a good chance to fill a bench role for the Mets or perhaps work his way into a platoon.
Marte, 22, batted .251 with a .687 OPS in 129 games at Double-A. With David Wright now signed for eight years, the young third baseman became expendable.
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He stole 25 bases in AA and 30 in AAA so he’s got a little bit of speed too apparently which is something the mets badly need.
Also worth noting, he had a 2 out 2 RBI base hit in the playoffs last year against Milwaukee. So he’s 1 for 1. #clutch
SMH…Jessep cut it out…lol…youre embarrassing yourself
You up-sell every move Sandy makes….stop trying to lay groundwork for saying how great a move this is when we all know this move doesnt answer any questions in our Outfield….
We needed at least 1 experienced big league Outfielder and as of today our most Experienced Outfielder is still LUCAS DUDA!!!!
Right and 5 days ago RA Dickey was a met and Alderson was barking up the wrong tree to try and get 2 good prospects for him and the Mets were doing nothing and then oops, a trade happened.
How many days until spring training? So the offseason isn’t done yet? Got it.
Clutch Cowgill sounds right! 1 for 1 baby!
“Alderson was barking up the wrong tree to try and get 2 good prospects for him”
Never once did I say Alderson was barking up the wrong tree trying to get 2 good prospects for Dickey….If you read what I have stated all along was Sandy was right to ask for a lot for Dickey because he was the BEST pitcher in baseball last year and was very good the 2 previous seasons.
Stop trying to spin things….
Lets focus on your attempt to make it seem as if this was some awesome trade that we’ve been waiting for….The Dickey trade was a great move….This is a EH! move….at best Cowgill is a 4th Outfielder…..
So what happens now with Hairston?
I don’t think this affects Hairston one way or the other. Cowgill isn’t a starter and he doesn’t supply power.
Hairston isnt a starter either. The Mets need to land someone who can be a starting OF, preferably RF.
Hairston is a starting platoon player for sure. Hairston/Baxter is better than any full-timer we could get at this point. Platoons are extremely productive as well as underrated and undervalued, and not to mention cheap. See this years Athletics and the ’86 Mets.
Gee, donal, your boss jessup says cowgill is a super dooper star. Your fired!!!!!!!!
only the sadest ones use a fake account , o boy , i feel real sorry for you , couldnt you just wait till friday?
doesn’t change a thing. they still need a RH power bat for the corners, so Hairston can be in play there. In effect Cowgill would be replacing the Torres role.
As long as the Mets dont get any washed up vets who needs to play (like Torres last season) instead of the youngster (like Kirk)
He’s essentially a 27yr old rookie next year….Couldnt Sandy put together a package including Marte to bring back a better Outfielder.
Hes another question mark added to a Outfield full of question marks….and his age is a negative because its not like we could say he still young has time to grow.
For this trade to be a plus Cowgill has to hit the floor running
No. No, he couldn’t.
Marte is organizational depth. Sandy got organizational depth back for him, but at least somebody who’s had some level of success at AA and AAA, and has seen some MLB time.
You can’t turn poop into gold.
Could work out similar to time the Mets signed a 35 year old pitcher that spent more time in the minors then the majors. Never know……….it’s not this cost the Mets a player they were counting on tomorrow, an expendable player.
Not a move to get excited about, happy or mad, just a move.
Oh great!!!! Never thought about it that way Kay….Thanks
So Cowgill throws a knuckle-ball huh? o_O
I remember Chin-Lung HU he was supposed to be the infield version of what Cowgill is…Chin-lung had awesome stats in the minors like Cowgill and he was a Right handed bat and came to the big leagues and couldnt hit if his life depended on it….
So what did Sandy and DePodesta do they sent him to the minors after a stint on the DL to convert him into a Switch-hitter….SMH…He couldnt hit from the right side so they decided to switch sides of the plate surely he’d hit now…lol…
You’re very welcome
I hope he doesn’t wear Crocs.
I doubt this is the last outfielder the Mets add this winter.
He’s right-handed and he can play the OF. Upgrade. He can platoon with any one of our other lefty “starters”. Team upgrade. He’s only 26 and has some decent upside based on minor league numbers. All in all, not bad. I liked Marte, but he’s far enough away and there’s no guarantee he would take positive steps forward, or that he wouldn’t be blocked on the MLB team once he does. And that’s if he ever develops into an MLB starter.
Team upgrade”
Are you serious with this?
I’m serious. He is a righty bat that plays OF. We have none of those even close to the MLB roster, That’s where the improvement comes in. Also, platooning works because you only let guys do what they do well. A lefty/righty platoon in a corner OF spot with Cowgill and Baxter will yield much better results than simply Baxter playing everyday. That is the upgrade.
he also seems to be a very good defensive OF (voted best defensive CF and best arm in their system). So assuming they are using guys like Hairston/Duda, he could be a very good late innings defensive replacement.
Totally agree Hank. Besides, it’s not like Marte was living up to the hype that he had 2 years ago. He may completely fall off the radar at AAA and at least Cowgill has some MLB behind him.
I wonder if this was the guy Puma was referring?
Never mind… I see you know nothing about baseball. carry on.
It’s all about platoon splits now man. If you can’t get a good all-around player, you get one guy who hits lefties, and one guy who hits righties. Obviously it’s small sample sized but Baxter hit .288/.386/.450 against righties and Cowgill hit .318/.412/.432 against lefties. This is a possibly platoon that upgrades the OF. Upgrade simply means improvement. Like I said, the kid is righty, he plays a decent OF, and he can be a good platoon partner. That is three areas he helps improve the team.
If you’re only viewing upgrades as major tremendous improvments, then no it’s not an upgrade. But that doesn’t mean you can deny that the team isn’t better by trading a prospect in A ball for a guy who can help in 2013. It’s an upgrade. You may not think it’s big enough, but it’s still an upgrade.
It takes a lot of moves, some big some small, to complete the roster. You do what you can, when you can. Just because you might still be looking for a “big” move, does not mean you shouldn’t be working on smaller ones at the same time. After all, weren’t people all over the FO for not being able to multitask?
Hank, again. we have no OF. how can we be already be looking at bench OF’s when we don’t even have starters? Doesn’t that scare you a bit? To know the possibility of this guy to be STARTING OF FOR THE NY METS? How come you don’t see where i am getting at with this? Let’s be objectve here for a second… jeez!
apparently the concept of a platoon is passing you by.
Alex You get an A+ for trying to educate people. You get an F wasting your time with a bunch of clowns who are either on Alderson’s payroll, or are too ignorant to use their brains.
o boy
Educate people? You can’t be serious.
I mean… At this point anybody who’s been a reject and is/or associated with the Padres and Oakland, the NY Mets welcome you for an opportunity.. SMMFH
Alderson speaks to reporters: “You see, I told you we’re not punting.”
looks like they found their platoon partner for Baxter in right. His total numbers should be taken with a grain of salt here because I can assure you a majority of his at bats will be against left-handers. pretty solid career lefty line of .298/.379/.405. albeit a small sample size. and looks like he has some much needed speed. I like the move.
more likely a CF platoon option and defensive replacement for the corners. Still need a RH bat with some power to platoon on one of the corners.
true. hopefully that’s where Hairston comes in. doesn’t seem like there’s much of a market for him. by the sounds of it it seems like all they have to do is give him the second year and he’s back. Unless Philly is feeling saucy.
****FUNNY Thing about this trade pointed out by Adam Rubin****
The Mets announced the trade during RA DICKEYS press conference with the NY MEDIA….lol…
Yeah Im sure they just couldnt wait to get this BIG NEWS out….We acquired the great Collin Cowgill?!!?!!
Nice job trying to steal Dickeys thunder….PR job
I don’t care what anybody says, until they prove me wrong with all the “Prospects” they’ve gotten, this FO sucks, is pathetic and embarassing what we mets fans have been put trough during sandy alderson’s tenure.. You can give me all the saber crap you want, all the He had a good day articles, the man sucks and is outdated as a GM and i will continue to bash this FO when moves like this keep happening.. Pathetic and embarassing…
You can but you will be proven wrong.
Actually, some people around might be about to claim this deal was a smoke screen to distract us from the Dickey trade.
Well thats basically what I was trying to say…guess I wasnt clear enough….
Im sure they want Mets fans to stop talking about losing Dickey so his press conference with the NY Media regardless of what he said or didnt say would be a lose, lose for the Mets….All it would do is give the media more quotes from dickey in there columns, blogs, twitterverse….
So yes they strategically broke this news during RA’s conference…something to talk about besides Dickey giving Mets fans a farewell
…you really believe that…
wow
Why wouldnt I…..Theve done worst things
I dont put anything past this Organization…they are the Shadiest of the Shady
and also, Mets fans cannot be a part of the conference call.
So I’m not sure you even know what you’re talking about to be honest
“and also, Mets fans cannot be a part of the conference call.
So I’m not sure you even know what you’re talking about to be honest”–Jessep
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LMAO….Where the hell did I say anything about Mets fans being on conference calls???
I said “NY MEDIA”…..lol….put on your reading glasses Jessep or at least zoom in on your screen to 200%
it wasn’t a press conference with NY media, it was a conference call.
And Dickey already had his moment/thunder because he talked with Toronto media already.
“And Dickey already had his moment/thunder because he talked with Toronto media already.”
Yeah he addressed “Toronto” and their fanbase.
Now he was addressing “New York” and the “Mets fanbase.”
Big difference
You just honestly are not accurate here at all.
He’s on a conference call with reporters. He’s giving practically the same exact statements he did with Toronto press.
What do you think happened? You think all of the reporters hung up when they heard the Mets traded for Cowgill?
Everything he says on the conf call would be reported the exact same way had they made a trade or not.
Soooooo…..Im the inaccurate one here and youre the one misquoting everything I said…lol…yeha OK!
If he was saying the same EXACT thing to the NY media that he is saying to the Toronto Media wouldnt they just have a JOINT call with all interested Media on the Call???
YES Everything he says will be reported BUT it wont be the only METS story to talk about….NOW!!!
Since now Mets fans will read Dickey farewell and also read…..”Mets made a deal/trade with Oakland for Outfielder Colin Cowgill to improve team”
Stop being Naive…Jessep….Im listening to WFAN now and the update regarding MEts are Dickey addressed media today which is then followed with and overshadowed by “METS MADE A TRADE TODAY FOR…..”
So if im at work listening to WFAN or any other sports program I here Dickey talk to media then I here Mets made a trade as a Mets fan…Im thinking hey I already went through the whole Dickey thing I love the guy but he’s gone…I want to hear more about this TRADE….WHO did we get????….IS HE GOOD???….WHO DID WE GIVE UP???
Do you get it now JESSEP!!!! Is that accurate enough
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/59568/dickey-dissects-failed-mets-negotiations?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Did the trade stop Adam Rubin from reporting that? No. Those who care to know what he said during a conf call can still do so.
The mets acquiring a potential 4th outfielder didn’t steal any thunder or take anything away from dickey “bidding farewell” you’re just reaching for a reason to be down on the mets.
“Did the trade stop Adam Rubin from reporting that? No. Those who care to know what he said during a conf call can still do so.–Jessep”
Again, Instead of addressing what I said youre putting words in my mouth….Show me where I said the Media would STOP REPORTING Dickeys farewell conference with NY Media….I said FANS would focus more on the trade than Dickeys exit call….And the Mets struck at that exact moment to ensure Mets fans wont just focus on losing Dickey but rather focus on look where making trades to improve the team….
And who said I was looking for a reason to be down on the Mets???? I dont have a problem with what they did….Its a business….I said it was funny thats ALL!!!
You are reaching and grasping at straws….stop putting words in my mouth….quote me verbatim like i have done with you….
just in case!
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/8759190/new-toronto-blue-jay-ra-dickey-says-former-team-new-york-mets-capped-offer-2-years-20m
Please be sure to give Dickey your full attention.
Alex,
You are the hatenest hater of all! This is a move for some possible depth and more lefty/righty balance with the slight bonus if youth, some, speed and low cost. No big deal. Move on. Save your venom for something of more significance. It’s just petty to waste it on this. Nothing makes you happy. You like an old whore, you cry when they put it in then cry when they take it out.
Move on brother!
I’ve seen your name around and I’ve always wanted to know exactly where is Sloatsburg?
Also, pay him no mind. It’s not worth the effort at all, bro. Some will never put 2 and 2 together.
northern rockland county. Up above Suffern, along the thruway. Pushing toward Orange county.
First of all, sloatsburg, as Joe D (Owner of the site) act civil towards me, at no point i have insulted you in any way so i suggest you respect me. Second of all, people in here cry about not having an opinion, yet when i do, then i’m some sort of hater. What exactly has sandy done the past 2 years? This type of move, and of course, people like you keep saying the same **** about how is a move to fill up the roster, then we get to see those same fill up the minor league roster moves up here with the team stinking up the joint (See Eamus, Hu, thayer, Boyer, etc), prove me wrong that we won’t see this guy being at some point on the 25 men roster, that’s if of course he doesn’t start the season IN the roster.. This is getting ridiculous and pathetic, and what’s more sad is people like you actually still defending this FO.
Alex,you can voice your opinion but why be mean about things? You may not think you’re being mean,but you kind of are. No disrespect meant anyway.
Really? Dude as in the one whos complaining. Its just a swap of minor leaguers. Except one has the chance to stick in our bench. Stop complaining. You people just like to whine. Sandy hosed the blue jays and bow hes a horrible Gm because he swapped minor leaguers
Relax. Breathe. Youre alive. You arent burying your child 7 days before christmas. Sandy signing a minor leaguer is no reason to throw a fit and be angry. There is so much more to life than a minor baseball trade jesus
“Relax. Breathe. Youre alive. You arent burying your child 7 days before christmas. Sandy signing a minor leaguer is no reason to throw a fit and be angry. There is so much more to life than a minor baseball trade jesus”
Ughhhhhh….This is a baseball blog/Fan site? Isnt it?? SO if he A Mets FAN cant show his passion for the sport here then where the hell can he???
FAN is short for FANATIC!!!!!!!
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fa·nat·ic /fəˈnatik/
Noun: A person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, esp. for an extreme religious or political cause.
Adjective: Filled with or expressing excessive zeal.
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HE has a different opinion than you….you cant tell him to shutup or keep it to himself….he should be able to express how he feels…If he thinks the deal STINKS he can say that….If you love it you can say that, if someone think its a EH! move they can say it…..
WHY???? You might ask? BECAUSE THATS WHY WE COMMENT HERE…TO VOICE OUR OPINIONS THEN DEBATE(ARGUE) THEM….
I’m all for the Kum-Bay-Ya stuff Saturn and fully appreciate what you’re saying.
You’ll never get through to some though so just duck the waves and dialogue with those that on on that wavelength.
I find the comment by saturn very offensive and insensitive…
I don’t. I find it spot on.
We gave up our 16th ranked minor leaguer who was sitting behind both Wright and Flores which means he was going exactly nowhere with the Mets for a right handed hitting OFer who can play all the positions and has some major league experience. It was a nice move.
You need to chill a bit which is obvious to just about everyone.
Boomer – take it 1 step further. Marte wasn’t even protected in the rule 5 draft. So they could have lost him for nothing. Instead they got back a kid who will get a chance to play
Yep. I’m actually pretty impressed with the moves Alderson has been able to make with all the organizational issues he has to deal with and the team he inherited.
Yep, very impressive how he has handled the team.. Team has gone from a semi contender to one of the laughinstock of baseball in merely 2 years… in the process losing 4 all stars and replacing them with _____________ ummm.. ok, moving on. Very impressive indeed.
Are you truly unaware of the financial situation the Mets are in or do you just enjoy ranting? If its the former I’d be happy to explain it to you. If its the latter I will just assume you like to be angry for no apparent reason.
Financial situation?? Didn’t they just shelled out $138 million for Mr Franchise? I am sure they can afford a $5 million dollar OF no???
And just maybe they will. Last I looked we are still in December.
Ok, and if they don’t as they did in the past 2 offseasons?? trust me, if i am wrong you’ll get an apology from me, if i am right (as i’ve been for 2 consecutive offseasons) you no longer will be Boomer Sooner to me….
In what way have you been right the past two years when they have more wins these past two years than they did the two years preceding Alderson?
Please explain.
gone from semi-contender to a laughingstock??? the laughingstock is that comment.
not sure if you are aware, but the Mets have more wins in the two years that Alderson has been here, than they did in the two years preceding him when your boy Omar was running the show. That comment holds zero water.
What do you have to say about that Alex?
They lost 4 allstars and only lost 4 games in the Win column. More like semi pretender.
Becaus they got a Cy Young Performance from the Rotation and improvements accross the board from Niese, Harvey and what little they got by having Santana back!
So those 4 games they lost SHOULD have been 10 games GAINED in the Win column instead….
Net Loss 14 games in the Win Column not just 4!
its so nice to see “normal” guys in here . very nice to see more of you guys getting at this angry men.
Thats a very rational comment actually. Just showing you YOU SHOULD Be GRATEFUL!!! How is that insensitive? You dont have any problems dude…a minor baseball trade is nothing to be screaming about when there is so much going on the outside world. You should be mindful instead of screaming like a little kid over a trade
Listen bo, i don’t know you nor you know me, just because unlike others i don’t post my personal problems in here nor should i. This is a blog to talk about baseball, and this blog allow us to express our opinion regardless of what we think. wether is we like or didn’t like the trade everyone in this blog is allow to do that, however, personal stuff i keep it to myself, so for you to say or assume that i don’t have problems of that kind of nature is very stupid and insensitive to anyone. i don’t brng up personal attacks to anybody at all in here, i keep it baseball related and that’s it.. i suggest you don’t try to interact with me as i don’t wanna get ban from here, kids like you is the reason a great baseball person like bayonne is banned.
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THIS
LMAO….I dont come here to hear anyones personal issues or to read whats going on in the World….I only come here to see whats going on in the METS WORLD and what others think about it….
Its a Mets site not
World News and oh Mets baseball
you a such a god dam n lier , jeez you not even getting red do you ? hipocrite
Yes it’s never the fault of the person being banned. Someone else caused that persons actions which led to the ban. That person had nothing to do with his own banning. Hilarious!
You know if you get into a fight in a Nightclub they don’t worry about who started he fracas they throw both parties out of the building regardless of who started what….
Thats the way these comment sections should be run as well!
Only you could miscontrue my comment as insensitive and offensive. When its neither. I am sure everyone here agrees you are and overly angry aggresive individual who needs to take a look around and see what is going on with the world around you so you can appreciate life and not be so bitter. Youre alive dude. Some people are not. Yet you choose to he aggresive over a minor trade. Why dont you use that anger, if you must have it, towards something more productive?
Read my reply to Hank and see my point.. this has been going on for 2 years. already looking at bench OF’s when we don’t even have the starters?
Also, my point regarding your insensitive POV is, we just recently lived this tragedy, yet you choose to use that in a blog of sports to point out some sort of stupid comparision about being alive? Dude, imo that was a poor choice of words from you period.
lets say cogwill is not the badest one , at least he will not hurt us . nice to see the addition .
Wow, Its really sad there are so many overtly angry individuals in here. Reason is not the norm anymore. Shouting and complaining is then we wonder why the world is the way it is. Its not that people disagree with others, its in the manner in which they do so.
Cogwill is a very good depth signing. Glad Anderson is making under the radar moves that could pan out.
Cogwill is a very good depth signing”
Very good???? Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I see how much baseball knowledge you have, i will end this conversation now.. Thanks for reading and commenting have a cleanup day!
I’m sorry Alex, but I have to throw you in the drunk tank for three days. I’m glad you’re not using profanity anymore but you seem to be going after everybody for no apparent reason at all except to get under their skin or just knock them for their opinions. I did warn everybody this morning to cut the crap with the insults. See you on Friday and please tone it down. Like someone else mention you are angry with the world or something.
look out every word counts in here , its like written in stone , these guys even save just comments just in case . its unbelievable
Sloatsburg is at the very western end of Rockland county in NY. I’m 4 miles from Bergen county NJ (Mahwah to be exact) and 2 miles from Orange County NY (Tuxedo).
Alex, I did not offend you in any way!!! I’ve had my spats with you in the past and said to you that it’s perfectly fine to disagree with me but to keep the personal crap out. Please don’t try to spin this on me. If you’re insulted by something I said, well then it’s on you. My whole assertion is clearly made in a sarcastic wise cracking manner. The bullying and constant negative barbs you fire off that often include school yard name calling and even your own little “mean girls” clique, I believe you call it “The Core” (if you only knew how to spell it and what it actually means). Please it. I was truly joking with you and I find it silly that after suffering for more than 2 years, a move is made that ALL the experts say the Mets got the far better of you decide to spew about an insignificant minor league deal that occurs the next day. Please let those of us who want to believe that there isn’t some sinister conspiracy to hurt all Met fans have at least a couple of days in the sun! After all, the world is ending on Thursday so stop being a Crab.
Sloats, i travel to DR every year for vacation, no sun needed. also, i do agree with some of your points don’t get it twisted, my beef is not about the dickey trade, i was in favor of it and liked what we got back, however, this type of move have been happening for 2 straight years and the same “It’s a minor league roster move” comments fill the articles, we see this garbage ass players end up playing in the bigs for us. I mean, who in their right mind would put Brad Eamus as a started in their team? Seriously, this guy is trying so hard to find lightning in a bottle that he’s willing to fill our team with crap to see what pans out.. it’s amazing how you guys don’t see it that way and keep believing in Sandy the liar alderson..
At least the kid has upside and a little MLB experience. Gritty ballplayer type, like a Dan Murphy. He hit 354 with 13 dingers, 70 RBI 51 walks to 63 strikeouts, 30 stolen bases and a 430 on base percentage,,,I like the contact he makes. Not a free agent till 2017, makes sense I guess but you can not just hand him a job. So more moves to come.
exactly how is he gritty ?
I sincerely do hope this wasnt the outfielder Alderson said we would get last night to upgrade the outfield?
YES IT IS!!!!
lol
A solid fielder with a good arm and above average speed. Above all, a real competitor. Met fans are going to be pleased.
Not if he gets 500 PAs we won’t
Its so mean to be ganging up on people here. I mean 20 pro arguments vs 2 cons. People please dont be bullies
Welcome to the Internet, my friend.
Did we sign mike stanton and I missed it. How was dickey thunder stolen??
Supposedly, the players in this trade were in place two weeks ago, but Oakland needed time to negotiate a new contract with Marte; who in turn, didn’t know what the heck Billy Beane was doing at his Casa Di Mi Madre.
It’s a useful small scale move.
With Wright & Ike in the Majors and Flores & Aderlin Rodríguez all ahead of him in the minors, Marte,a decent 3rd prospect with some upside was expendable. In exchange, Mets get a decent youngish 5th OF who can platoon with one of the lefties and could be solid vs LHP.
Still expect a RHH with power to be added to the roster
I take this move to mean that the Mets have officially retired the Start Trek Enterprise..
Captain Kirk had a very, very short tenure patrolling the outer regions of Citi Field.
Don’t get the big fuss over this trade. It’s a low-ranking prospect for a utility outfielder…
Look up and down the page and you’ll see why. It’s quite humorous to read.
I think the fuss is because we already have 3 utility Outfielders in Baxter, Nieuwenhuis and possibly Valdespin whom has been moved to LF,CF…..Also Den Dekker,Lagares in Triple A…
And what we dont have is Major league talent in the Outfield. The Dickey trade while a good one IMO created more holes than it filled.
but cowgill is right-handed so he can platoon with somebody. fills 1 slot
Correction…He fills a HALF a slot…
A guy who doesn’t need a platoon partner would fill ONE spot….
i meant cowgill+Baxter or Niewenhuis. you’re right
He should platoon with Kirk in CF.
Decent move. We get a utility righty OF for a 3B prospect who is blocked by Wright.
Alex
To your point about the FO going after bench before filling out the starters. I understand what you’re saying but opportunity isn’t always convenient. These things don’t happen in a chronological order. If they like a guy for the bench and it doesn’t cost them anything off the major league roster why not fill out some of the fringe spots as the opportunity comes up.
Also, please do not read into this, I’m not trying to stir the pot at all but you often say others don’t know anything about baseball or that they don’t know as much as you do. What is it you do? Do you work for MLB or an MLB organization or a baseball publication? I’m truly just asking out of curiosity.
All this fuss over a 4th to 5th outfielder. wow.
Yes yes this is a depth move….Yadda Yadda Yadda….
Problem some seem to ignore here is we already HAVE depth up the Wazoo….
What we are lacking is frontline starters that can play the majority of the time so this LOW LEVEL depth doesn’t have to play everyday….
And this deal does not address that at all!
I don’t have a problem with the trade itself it’s just another move for the sake of making a move and at least it is one that trades an IF (which we have an overabundance of) for something we don’t (OF)
SO I won’t trash the trade but I do find it odd that the SAND PEOPLE have decided to make it sound much better than it actually is and when confronted run to the IT’S A DEPTH MOVE …
We got plenty of that already.
100% agree with you. At face value the trade is great. In the grand scheme it looks like as of now he will be starting a lot, and that is not so great. Hopefully it will be a adequate replacement for Hairston.
Salty as I explained to TRS a few days ago, My use of the SAND PEOPLE has nothing to do with the site and everything to do with SANDy….
Sorry if that confused you or anyone from there….
In the vein that the SAND PEOPLE have let SANDMAN Alderson lure them to a long deep 4-5 year slumber they not only accept but have convinced themselves is a great thing for them…
I’m sorry but anyone who feels 4 or 5 years of being bad leads to a good outcome is either asleep or hypnotized….
Hence the SAND PEOPLE reference….
There is also a Star Wars component to it as well….
I feel they are about as bright as the characters from that series….
Impulsive and attack anyone who is not part of thier group.
But nothing to do with the site….
Sorry that was meant for the below post of yours.
As for your “Sand People’ comment, it looks like I am the only RDM person that has even commented on this article, can you enlighten me?
Maybe I’m going out on a limb with this comment but….
I’m guessing no one in Washington, Atlanta or Philly will go to sleep tonight, terrifed of the fact we just signed Cowgill.
What’s wrong with a platoon?
When player 1 hits lefthanders and player 2 hits righthanders and both are kind of the same at the field, what’s the problem?
So I like the trade.
Your wasting a precious (and limited) Roster spotto make one position whole, that could and should be used on something else.
Good move….we need depth…
It sucks but we will probally just platoon the entire outfield
Dariel Alverez please….24 year old Cuban defector, right handed bat who can play all 3 outfield positions
Nice find:
Alvarez, 24, has been playing professionally in Vera Cruz, Mexico, since October. The 6′ 2″, 190-lb right-handed hitter played all three outfield positions for Camaguey in Serie Nacional. Alvarez’s above-average arm has impressed MLB scouts since arriving in Vera Cruz, reports Jesse Sanchez of MLB.com.
He has to be the best option avalible….
I really hope Sandy makes a move….
He blew it by sitting on his hands with last years amazing crop of Cubans
gentlemen i have a baseball question.
Watching the mets last year i started to hate the lefty vs righty tactic. I understand why i do. but what i hate is you have a player plays that game then maybe not the next two or more. when a player plays everyday he can get into a groove and a hitting streak maybe even hot. I dont like the plattoon idea sometimes i think it doesnt help develop a player. I mean your gonna tell me that its not possible for righty to hit a righty and knock in some runs? maybe im just not knoledgable in the game or maybe its just the mets that frustrate me so, and this works with the other 29 teams. What are your thoughts on this?
Your absoloutly correct there Mario….
Platoons can work but they are only advised if you really have no other option available that can hit both Righties and Lefties.
Your not letting the players carry on thier hot bat and your also wasting a Roster spot as it requires two roster spots to fill one position.
Roster spots are the one limitation a team is FORCED to contend with, You can spend as much money as you want, but in the end you have to put together the best 25 guys you can if you want to win.
a Platoon is a fall back option that exposes the fact your Roster is not built efficiently and for every platoon you use you are hurting yourself at some other position where that Roster spot is needed such as the Bullpen or Bench Depth.
Prospects I am not big on platooning. However, once a guy gets to 27 or so years old he usually is what he is and if he still can’t hit on the other side of the plate then you aren’t hurting development.
I agree I hate the mismatching of the lineup everyday….Terry Collins is the master of this tactic which is one reason I cant stand him.
I cant remember how many times he said he would start Duda,Valdespin,Ike against more lefty’s when the Mets were out of contention for the playoffs only to see him go back on his word.
They are young and getting there 1st taste of the pro’s if they dont face LHP they will never improve.
Platoons should only be used when you have no other options. I hate platooning young players it is pointless and stunts there growth
exactly it drives me nuts…. we need a run in and instead of hairston batting up we use someone else just to follow that righty lefty tactic and then nothing happends we lose. it drives me nuts is because of this and the fact that collins didnt really shake up anything when things were bad he did opposite of what he said he was gonna do. ever since he allowed reyes to seat on the last game of the season after a bunt single thats when i lost all credibility with terry.