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2012
Mets Not Looking Into Pestano, Red Sox Might Be Moving Ellsbury
As the second day of the Winter Meetings in Nashville comes to a close, here are a few updates that might be of interest to you all…
- Buster Olney tweets that the Red Sox might be looking to move Jacoby Ellsbury for pitching now. This is likely surfacing because the Red Sox signed Shane Victorino. Jacoby Ellsbury is a pretty good player, and with Niese’s name being thrown out more often along with RA Dickey on the winds of trade, the Mets might have a potential match here. That is purely speculation, however.
- Unfortunately for anybody who was ecstatic at the idea of the Mets going after Vinnie Pestano, like myself, it might have been too good to be true. Adam Rubin tweets that he was told by a Mets source that there is nothing behind the Mets going after Pestano rumor.
- The Mets were also rumored to be going after Ryan Ludwick, and even willing to offer him a two-year deal, but Jeff Passan tweets that the Reds are closing in on a deal with him. Nothing is official yet, but the consensus seems to be a two-year, $14 MM deal for Ludwick in the direction of Cincinnati.
- As of last night, the Mets are still in the mix for Scott Hairston, tweets Ken Rosenthal. The bad news is that the two other teams in the mix are the Phillies and the Yankees.
- The D-Wright press conference is at 12 PM.
- The Rockies acquired Wilton Lopez, which is intriguing, because he was originally going to be dealt to Philadelphia earlier this offseason before that deal got nixed. Lopez has the potential to be a superb reliever, while the Rox sent away Alex White in this deal – and I am a strong believer in his talent. This will be interesting.
- The Marlins traded away Yunel Escobar to the Rays for Derek Dietrich, an infielding prospect. The Marlins now have only one player making over $1.75 MM for the following year – it is Ricky Nolasco. They are, however, looking for a third baseman – as Escobar was traded away because he expressed his lack of desire to play third base. The Fish are rumored to be looking into Jack Hannahan. They could also potentially stick to using Zack Cox, acquired for Edward Mujica, but he is raw.
And of course, your nightly RA Dickey feed…
- As you have heard, Wil Myers for RA Dickey is not happening. However, Wil Myers is available. I personally think he will be flipped to Tampa for James Shields, whom will see his value increase alongside Dickey once Zack Greinke is signed. If the Mets do decide they are going to trade Dickey, it would be best to wait a little until after Greinke signs.
- The rumors circling around, however, paint a positive picture for the Mets getting an extension or new contract done for RA.
- The Mets might actually get a better return for Jon Niese than they do for Dickey, and they are willing to include lower level prospects like Darin Gorski in deals to get them done.
- The Dodgers, D-Backs, Royals, Blue Jays, Rockies, Red Sox, Orioles, Nationals, Rangers and Brewers have all showed interest in Dickey within the past day, of varying intensity. We have a team from our own division inquiring about him… I do not foresee the Mets trading Dickey within the division, however. The lack of trading within a division is helpful to us in a way, however, because it forces the Red Sox to talk more to us since the Rays will be unwilling to deal within the AL East.
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Another left handed batter in the line up, we don’t need.
Well if the Fish are looking for someone to play 3rd base..can we trade them Daniel Murphy for G Stanton?
I love ellsbury’s game…but he’s about to be a free-agent…it would make no sense to trade him…
what WOULD be interesting is if the Red Sox were willing to trade Dustin ( which they are probably not )
I feel like this is the same stories of 2011 and 2012. a bunch of players’ name we come up in trades, signing, etc.. Yet at the end of the day we end up with pure garbage to start the season hopeful and excited to find out reality…. My goodness
Alex,
After reading this from Adam Rubin….I agree with you we’re in for the same Alderson off-season….Where they continuously cackle “Grienke got how much? Wow!”, “Thats way too much”
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Adam Rubin–
Ryan Ludwick reportedly will return to the Cincinnati Reds for two years, $14 million.
Ludwick was on the Mets’ radar, since they desperately need righty-hitting outfield bats. So why did the Mets not go to that level of bidding?
One team insider said that PRICE IS TOO STEEP for that caliber of player, and it’s almost FORTUNATE the Mets DO NOT HAVE MONEY TO SPEND IF that’s the MARKET PRICE. Another team insider said that was Ludwick’s price to remain in Cincinnati and it would have been higher to head to New York.
****So where do the Mets go from here for outfield help?
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/59266/common-ground-with-r-a-ludwick-info
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How dont they have money to spend when they just Overpayed for a 30yr old 3rd baseman???????
I wonder if Adam Rubin is still interested in a job with the Mets at this point I’d even take him just so i dont ever have to hear about Sandy EVER again
Ellsbury is very interesting, but he had a poor last 2-months after coming offthe DL. i think it’ll take more than Jacoby to get RA.
As far as Ellsbury goes he is a good player but over-rated IMO….He skillset is similar to Michael Bourne’s although I’d rank him a couple notches above Bourne, if only he could just stay healthy.
Ellsbury has only hit over 9HR’s “ONCE IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER”….. and thats INCLUDING his 5 years in the minors
With that said he is a top notch CF/leadoff man if only he could stay healthy….That 1 season clouds peoples brain when his name comes up
His skillset
Well if he is slightly higher and than Bourne and Bourne is seeking 5/75ish++ then how much is Ellsbury worth?
Here’s a question. Would you trade Dickey and say Duda for Salty and Ellsbury?
The only reason I wouldnt do that deal is because Ellsbury is a free agent after this year w/Scott Boras as his agent. And he would want to test the open market and Team Sandy doesnt do bidding.
FYI If someone pays Bourne 5yrs $75M I’ll eat my hat
that would be nuts…IMO BJ Upton is a better player because he provides some power…I think Bourne will get a deal similar to Victorino but more years…SMH@Victorinos deal didnt see that coming….with all the saving the mets have been doing I and other Mets fans are far removed from what players are worth these days
Well BBL, 5 at 13M a year puts you awfully close to that 5/75.
I agree that it would be short term with Ellsbury and Salty, I guess my point is what if the Mets don’t like the prospect offers nor the price for Dickey?
If the prospect offers are sub par and Dickeys price tag is too high(which I highly doubt) then I hold onto Dickey til Mid season then re-enter trade-ville mid season. Teams in the playoff hunt put less value on prospects then…theyre not gonna punt a playoff birth due to a prospect ortwo…I cant imagine anyone not being able to move Dickey for a decent return that will help us in the near future.
To be honest Ellsburys injury history scares me….also the Boston to Mets jinx…Bayfever
And you’re right, It is very close about $10M in total…
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I still want Myers.
I read where E. Bonafacio is available. If we are trading with Toronto for a catcher, I would want to try and have him included in the trade. CF and leadoff spot would be taken care of.
Good point, I am not sure why they acquired him or why the Marlins gave him up if they didn’t want him to start with though. I am just terrified they are going to overpay for a catcher. Especially JP.
Ellsbury would be a one year deal because If he does well Boras WILL take him to Free Agency. I don’t think we have what Boston wants anyway.
I am guessing that was in response to my trade for Ellsbury. I was going on the premise that the Mets don’t like A or B that I mentioned earlier. Would they then be better off trying to fill 2 holes with Dickey and then let the chips fall for the next year?
Not really, but as much as I like Ellsbury, he is injury prone and had one great year, so Boras will work from that point.
How do you like proposed Dodger deal with Gordon and pitcher? We could use him in CF or then trade him for an outfielder.
Why would you be terrified to overpay for a catcher…….we already are. Get one with some pop and move the one we are overpaying with the pitcher he catches (IMO the only reason he wasn’t DFA). You hear teams are weary of RA because they don’t have a catcher for him. If RA goes Thole goes with him as a throw in.
Why because in trade the demands appear to be WAY too high. Seriously, look at JP’s stats. He’s worth Dickey? Heck even some mentioning him for Niese? That D’A is basically untouchable and would take Niese +++, that Salty is even going to require top pieces? The catching market is way skewed and that is why I think they are better off just getting a veteran backup and develop their own. I think there is more opportunity to find a good deal for an OF right now than a C.
Just sign AJ. Done.
Yeah, I meant in terms of a trade. Want to throw cash at it for a stop gap? Sure.
I think the Mets shouldve went aggressively after Geovanny Soto. I saw him as a steal for what Texas gave him…due to his upside of course he reminds me of when the Yankees outbid us for Russel Martin a couple yrs ago…Good catcher coming off down years