So, ya, Dickey could put the team over the top in 2014. But what about 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 etc etc?

I will say to you exactly what I wrote in a post last night…

Next year will be the year I judge Sandy Alderson. when no money on payroll will be Omar money and the team is 100% his. Next year is when we see what Sandy really has planned. I will judge Sandy on Feb 1, 2014. If it is the same as it is now and the last two years, then I will jump on Alex’s wagon.

People just don’t want to admit that the Mets aren’t going anywhere in 2013. Unless you plan on getting a championship catcher, three championship outfielders, and a championship bullpen, all with less than 20 million dollars.
The days of 140 million dollar payrolls are over until they start winning again. Phillies payroll didnt go up until they started winning. Rangers payroll didn’t start to go up until they started winning. Giants payroll didn’t start to go up until they started winning. Winning comes first. The BIG payrolls come second. You can’t name me one other team this century that has started spending big when they were LOSING and then won.

People think it’s supposed to be different here because “this is new york”, as if the rules of economics don’t apply here. If I hear “this is New York” one more time I’m gonna vomit. The Mets are not the Yankees. No one is the Yankees. The Yankees are in a world of their own. You’re talking about the most popular sports franchise in the WORLD. If you think the Mets are supposed to act like the Yankees you are delusional. The Mets need to do it like every other team not named the Yankees did it in the last ten or so years. Stop thinking we can be different because “this is New York”. Thank god we finally have a GM here now that actually realizes this and also understands the concept of value.

Delusional.

Wheeler is the guy who replaces that 25Mil per one time Ace whose shoulder is being held together with spit, tape and a prayer.

There is no doubt that Wheeler can easily replace and improve on Santana….
But it would be foolish to think he is going to come out of the minors and get close to 20 Wins the way Dickey can.

I agree with those who believe we won’t be competing in the next three years of a Dickey contract but thats not because of Dickey it’s because of thier insistence on a 100M Payroll that is rediculous to insist upon in a market like NY.

NYC is a Broadway town, Dinner Theater just doesn’t sell here!

They need to sign Dickey and then bite the bullet and spend on a cornerstone RHH OF and then all those predictions of nothingness for the next 4 years go away!

Cause we will have the pitching, we will have the Heart of the Lineup and Power threats and we already have enough decent players to fill in the rest of the spots knowing that we have that productive lineup the signing of Bay was supposed to maintain but didn’t.

So all these prediction on how far away we are all presume that 100M is the only payroll we are allowed to have.

And thats patently false!
It’s a choice we are making so in essence we CHOOSE TO SUCK for 4 more years all because we love money more than competitive baseball.

I think we are still getting confused where these two teams are on their organizational calendars.

Worley is a good pitcher. Not great, but good. After the big 3, there isn’t a whole lot on that Phil’s staff.

And no, Worley is not on par with Dickey, but considering that Dickey will/should bring a return much better that Revere for the OF combined with the depth/pitchers in waiting, I do think that the Mets can weather the storm of losing Dickey better than the Phils can by thinning out their rotation.

I am pretty sure that TX has mentioned if you trade Dickey you have to go get a Lannan type and hope the offense that you net for Dickey makes up for the difference in pitching.