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2012
Jeff Wilpon Says Dickey And Mets Far Apart On Dollars
Updated Post 1:00 PM
Jeff Wilpon told reporters today that R.A. Dickey and the Mets are still far apart on the overall value of a possible contract extension, and it’s possible they could go into next season with no new agreement.
Dickey later told ESPN.com that he is hopeful a new deal can be worked out, but he understands that Sandy Alderson is paid to make the Mets better.
Alderson later told MLB Network that he has to look at all possibilities and that he is more likely to keep Dickey without an extension at this point, though that is not his preference.
There is absolutely no mandate that an extension must be done now. Two years ago with Jose Reyes, the Mets let him play out his option and took the picks.
Jeff Wilpon has already said that could happen again with Dickey, and I’m starting to believe that is exactly what will happen.
Original Post 9:00 AM
New York Yankees beat writer Sweeny Murti of WFAN is reporting on some of the Mets buzz he is hearing at the Winter Meetings in Nashville.
- The Mets are asking for too much, one GM said here, in regard to R.A. Dickey and trade possibilities, the Mets are targeting the top prospect in nearly every organization they speak with. The Royals don’t appear eager to trade Wil Myers for Dickey, so a match there might be unlikely.
- Jonathon Niese is not being discussed at the present time as a trade option. That could always change, of course, but several Major League executives have questioned why the Mets would even consider trading a young lefty signed to a reasonable contract.
Adam Rubin of ESPN New York gives this latest update on Dickey:
- A Mets team insider reiterated that the Mets will look to be overwhelmed in a trade proposal for Dickey or another starting pitcher. Otherwise, they will take their projected 2013 rotation to spring training intact. The source went on to say there is “common ground” toward reaching an extension deal with Dickey.
It seems that talks for Dickey are fizzling out with at least three of the seven teams that had interest in Dickey.
- Brewers GM Doug Melvin said he talked to the Mets about Dickey, but before exchanging names the two sides determined there wasn’t a match, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
- Talks between the Mets and Royals are dead according to Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star. The Royals’ interest in Dickey is not as great as other younger options on the trade market who the Royals like.
- The Dodgers look set to be the winners in the Zack Greinke sweepstakes, which would take them out of the group of teams who showed any interest in Dickey.
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Great, Keep the same rotation and same lineup that won us 74 games last year.. Lol.. Damn.
waaaaaaaaah.
I have an issue with how it is being portrayed as “asking too much”.
What if the Mets have decided that
A) They can sign Dickey for _________
or
B) Trade him for ____________
And if at any time A or B is better for the team then that is the direction they will go in.
They don’t have to trade Dickey, I most likely would. However, considering they don’t have to trade him, why shouldn’t they ask for a teams best prospect and if you don’t get it then re-sign him to a reasonable amount. The only issue would be if the Mets think the offers are garbage and Dickey wants more than a reasonable amount. THEN they would have a decision to make which includes waiting until the trade deadline if neither A or B make the team significantly better.
pretty much what I just said below. The team already has a pretty high floor.
and I would bet that if they do turn around and sign him, teams will start sniffing around harder at Niese.
so now it is a bad thing to keep the reigning Cy Young award winner to be the ace of the staff?
These quotes really don’t mean anything. Considering they often contradict one another, and do a 180 day to day, most of it is some combination of speculation, guesswork, or smoke blowing.
But, if the mets really have an option (from Dickey’s side) to sign him for a very reasonable and team friendly extension, they certainly should hold out for a big return, and if not, keep him. Not like there is any way to replace the production on the open market for the same price.
GMs always act pained or shocked about the asking prices for good players, and claim to be out of the running. Usually right before they make a trade that includes a former “untouchable”
Makes sense to me. I just hope that if they don’t come away with a top prospect, that RA is extended by the end of the winter meetings. I don’t think he’ll be, unfortunately.
Remember trades can happen well after the Winter Meetings. The Mets shouldn’t even think about signing Dickey until Grienke is off the board.
I can agree with waking to extend him after the Grienke saga is over. I think the bidding war is going fast and furious for him and I think we’ll see it over soon. Hopefully the Dodgers win, as Texas has better options that match with the Mets.
I don’t go there very often but during the hot stove I take a peak, the Blogfather is right on with this one:
“In late July 2011, when Zack Wheeler was still with the Giants, ESPN reported that Wheeler was on San Francisco’s short-list of ‘untouchables,’ a group of three prospects Brian Sabean would not trade.
They later added, “It is highly doubtful that San Francisco would give up Wheeler for Beltran.”
Sabean traded Wheeler for Beltran a few days later.”
I don’t go there very often but during the hot stove I take a peak, the Blogfather is right on with this one:
Et tu, Brute?
What that I take a peak that the SNY sponsored Mets Blog for updates during the hotstove? yeah, guilty.
LOL…that’s why you can’t trust any of these rumors just now. Some of them might be indeed grounded in fact but it doesn’t mean a GM can’t change his mind.
Trs…you’re completely right. It keeps being said that they’re asking too much. Maybe that’s because he’s a great pitcher who doesn’t need to be traded. The mets have pitching depth and could simply sign him and at some point trade a younger stud who they just don’t have room for.
Dickey’s last three seasons have been exceptional. Teams are scared of his age, but that doesn’t mean for a second they should just give him away. He has done this well in his age 36,37,38 and has gotten better each season while also becoming a fan favorite and team leader. You must receive a Wil Myers type prospect to accept a trade of RA. To think that any team would trade a 20 game winning Cy You g winner that led the league in innings and K’s last season is insane when you consider the market for even mediocre starting pitching.
Wil Myers is a great prospect, but he’s still a prospect and RA is a Cy Young winner in the major leagues. I’ve read people on this site wanting to package RA with more players/prospects to get Myers strait up. THAT’S NUTS! The Mets hold the cards here and have the major league talent in this deal, not the team in need of a front line starter whose holding into a prospect that hasn’t seen a major league pitch. Pitching gets you to the playoffs and wins championships, not prospects; especially if your a team who has done nothing in two decades like the Royals.
The Mets would be better off signing Dickey if they don’t get that difference maker, without a doubt ill take RA’s 15 wins next year any day.
Truths…….I still think it should be about the future, even though they’ve signed Wright. It’s obvious they’re not gonna go out and spend a ton of money yet, so lets pursue the future. Yes Dickey has performed well at 36, 37, 38…….but each year is definately pushing the envelope at his age, and the probablity of him breaking down increases. It’s very risky business if they extend him another 2 or 3 years beyond his option year at this age. I say lets go all out for Myers and sweeten the Dickey pot with Duda and Fulmer or Montero. I don’t think a 3-4 year commitment to Dickey at this point will prove to be a good thing and it actually disturbs me.
You wanna trade the reigning Cy Young award winner plus one of two of our best pitching prospects for Myers? No way! Not for a prospect. Maybe for an established big time bat but not for a kid who has yet to have an at bat in the bigs. Dickey should be enough, if not move on.
Fonzie……I hate to use the same cliche, but you have to give up something to get something. Neither of the 2 pitchers I mentioned have even thrown a pitch in Double A yet. And yes Myers hasn’t seen a pitch in the majors, but he’s as major league ready as they come. Also, alot of my feelings on this is fueled by me not wanting to see the team make an expensive mistake with a multi year commitment to Dickey. And with the signing of Wright, Dickey staying, Niese staying………guess what, to me the team is just shaping up to be the same team we watched last year. I don’t want that.
If we get back a package that we can flip for G Stanton..would u still make that move ?
In a NY minute!
I totally agree….1st time we’ve agreed on anything in a Looooooooooooooooong time
“The Mets would be better off signing Dickey if they don’t get that difference maker, without a doubt ill take RA’s 15 wins next year any day.”
I completely agree, they could get a half season out of him and still net a difference maker at the deadline if no one is willing now. Or they could re-sign him. Who’s to say that Dickey won’t re-sign with the Mets following 2013? It’s a risk but at worst you get a draft pick. I am not saying that’s ideal but the Mets are going to get something from Dickey regardless. For now, shoot high.
Also, OK so Myers might be asking too much but it also sets the stage for some other team with their top prospect who is not as highly regarded as Myers to be offered. IF you say we are taking only the best hitter in your system and you let that be known, someone might cave. If not, I still think you can get a hell of a player in July.
Hi Joe,
Hope you are feeling OK before going in for some surgery and that you’ll be up and at ‘em in no time at at all.
In the case of R.A., I am glad that Sandy and his people are letting their reach exceed their grasp. I particularly did not take Kansas City serious to begin with for a team that finished near the bottom of the league in run production was not going to give up on a highly ranked prospect like Meyers. And even with their poor pitching, KC would not be helping the team’s youth movement with such a move.
Which also brings up another point. How many times has Kansas City been viewed as the sleeper team of the American League based on a crop of upcoming young players? As of now, it’s been nine straight seasons that the Royals have finished below .500 and in three of them they could not even muster 70 wins.
Guess they shared the same vision with Sandy. And Kansas City should again serve as a lesson for many to curb their enthusiasm a bit about how so many of our own young players are going to fill the holes for us and put us back as a competitor in 2014, for no matter how promising one’s prospects look in the minors, how they pan out in the majors is an entirely different story and one that should neve be looked at as a guarantee.
3 way trade: I would trade Niese + Duda + Mejia for Profur, Olt and some prospects…
trade Olt and some prospects for Giancarlo Stanton
Move Duda to 1B
You got your SS of the future at 20 years old
You got your 2B set at 22 years old
You got your RF set at 21 years old
all 3 are ++ hitters and fielders for their respective positions
Move Dickey for Travis D’anard + Anthony Gose
You got your Catcher of the future at 22 years old…a potential CF of the future at 23 years old..
For 2013, You still have trade chips in
Murphy ( dont laugh…but Murph has value )
Flores ( who is unfortunately redundant now… )
Frank Francisco ( dont laugh…but a good showing in 2013, makes him a trade chip )
Boston still needs a pen and Frank Francisco on a 1 year 6 mil deal would help net a prospect
If the mets can trade Murph to Boston, the folks in Boston would absolutely love this kid…esp if they move him to 1B….where i think its his best position…
JDD,
Good recommendations. The only problem is that none of the trading partners would agree to any of this.
So let me get this straight…
Texas needs pitching…has 2 prospects blocked by Andrus and Beltre…
If you offer them Dickey + Flores + Mejia for 2 guys who are redundant, you are saying they def turn it down…
ok…
FYI – I would take Andrus if they did not want to include Profur
Texas has been refusing to part with either Profur or Andrus for Upton, who is young and has an extremely reasonable contract for the next 3 years. If they are refusing on that scenario, why would it be fathomable to think that they would move Profur + Olt + others for Niese and some throw ins (which is what Duda and Mejia would be)?
And Giancarlo would require something along the lines of Wheeler, Flores, Fulmer and probably 2 others, if not more. To think Olt plus some prospects would get it done is not being reasonable. If it was possible to somehow keep Wheeler, I’d trade Flores, Fulmer, Nimmo, Familia, Aderline and another if it got me Giancarlo. And I’m still not sure Florida would do that. We can only hope Giancarlo keeps running his mouth off.
Yes, Texas has a need for pitching, and if they lose out on Grienke, there could certainly be an opportunity for Dickey to be traded to them, but I can’t see them trading Profur for anything at this point, nor Andrus. They are more likely to move Profur to 2B, Kinsler to 1st and DH Young.
Also, while I like Olt, but he can he play OF? Because he will be like Flores. A nice hitter with no position to play.
I do find it amazing how someone could think we could trade these guys and get some of the best players in baseball in return.
I do like the thoughts on the hypotheticals and all, but they need to be within reason.
Anything that nets us Stanton + D’A and Goose for Dickey, Niese and lower level guys? that might be stretching it a little.
This whole posturing back and forth on Dickey is normal but it’s still driving me crazy. I hope it’s resolved one way or the other soon. I don’t know much about these prospects from KC and BOS other than what I read on Sickels or BA when I look them up, but honestly I don’t see how trading our ace for 2013-2015 is worth any of those kids. Whatever happens I’ll hope for the best. The good news is we’ll have some normalcy when they do the Wright press conference at noon and I hope it’as televised. LGM!
I read where it’s supposed to be televised on SNY.
It might NOT be worth it, that’s why they haven’t done anything yet. That being said, I am not sure the Mets feel confident he can be an ace for the next 3.
IF we dangle Niese, teams will come a-flocking offering their top prospect(s). No question in my mind about that. And we’d have the upper hand in those exchanges because Niese is a highly attractive piece for most teams and matches up well versus other highly-valued trading pieces (Moore, Hellickson from TB) and even versus Jamie Shields, when one considers the potential arm-fatigue on Shields after 6 straight seaons of 200+ IP..
i admit RA’s trade value is more conjectural because of his age and the tweaks that occur as one ages (all too often!)–even if one threw a knuckler!
However, that said, i think it’s hogwash that ‘no team would give up a top prospect for Dickey’. Give me a break. Maybe or maybe not, it’d be a Myers-type prospect, but damn, the guy is a bonafide winner, does throw a body-friendly pitch, is a dogged competitor and a model citizen that’d anchor most staffs and provide mentoring for younger hurlers.
At this point, i don’t know if it’s RA or Niese that gets traded, but one of them does; this week, if it’s Niese; before year-end, if it’s RA.
And if LA gets Greinke, the odds on TX vying for RA goes up.
Why is it that fans will wait 20 years for a pitcher like Niese to come along, and then trade him (with a sweet 5 year deal mind you) for more prospects who fail most of the time? Does anybody around here care about winning anymore?
If building from within is the key to winning, why in the world would you DANGLE Jon Niese? To serve what end?
If trading Niese gets you Travis + Gose, or packaged with another prospect + MLB player nets you Profur + Olt, you HAVE to make that move.
Esp if taking some of those players + some of your own and going after the big fish, stanton ( no pun intended )
Glad to see you’re back, Joe.
I think a big part of this is b/c Dickey is signed at such a bargain for next season. They’re willing to listen to any and all offers, and if someone gives up what they’re looking for, they’ll probably pull the trigger.
From the stories so far this week, sounds like they’re not getting the ceiling they’re shooting for.
I’m just afraid they’ll go into ST with this not resolved, waiting to see if some teams get even more desperate for ST and offer a trade they might not have earlier.
Agreed. Keep healing up, bud.
Honestly though, unless it affects Dickey’s performance, what’s wrong with letting it go into ST? They can see what team caves, keep him, see where the team is in July, discuss contract then (I know he said he wouldn’t but all players say that), and if they still don’t get what they are looking for in trade or contract then keep him until after the season, offer the qualifying offer, offer a fair deal and at worst get a year of Dickey and a draft pick in return. Dickey doesn’t give the impression that even after 2013 he will be looking to break the bank and would have no intentions of re-signing.
They really can’t lose in this unless they become impatient. It just sucks for us fans though.
It’s all just posturing. I truly believe someone will blink. There is so much money being thrown around and very little talent available. Just think of Texas losing in the WS two years in a row and failing last year. They are at a point where their window is shrinking with their current talent pool and they need to make one more shot. The Royals, have a amazing opportunity to be legitimate this year and they need pitching bad, especially cheap pitching. The AL East has completely flipped with the Yankees dying off, the Rays look like they are going backwards and Toronto is going for it. You don’t think Baltimore would like to take advantage as well? Someone will get antsy and pull the trigger.
i think you’re right. The time is now for KC & TX, both of whom match up well with us for trade options. I don’t know how we match up with the Orioles.
Duda’s going nowhere until ST when he can show he’s healthy.
Mejia is likely undervalued now as he’s had question marks about his health and his role. Until he settles into a starter/reliever spot and stays there while remaining healthy, you won’t get much in return for him.
Flores IS a big trade chip since he’s now blocked by the underperforming $138 million man.
I think everyone is seriously underestimating what it would take to pry Myers loose from KC. Why would they give up a .314/37/109 hitter without getting a haul in return? You might get him for Niese, but not for Dickey. If Dickey was going to KC you might have to include Flores in the trade as well. Remember, Dickey is only signed for 1 year and does not have the long term potential (and low price) of Niese.
Lets not pretend the thin air of 3/4 of the PCL parks had nothing to do with the 37 homers. Before last season he average 8 home runs a season. Lets also not ignore his very low contact rate and those 140 strikeouts. The Royals will ask for a ton because of the season he had and how that season drove him up the prospect rankings. But that doesn’t make him a sure thing. But he does draw walks so I can see Alderson going hogwild here if he has to. But I’m thinking he’s a Daniel Murphy offensive player with doubles power, patience, no real speed. Only exception is that Myers can actually field his position. What would you give up for Daniel Murphy?
Myers had1 bad year; he repeated @ AA in ’12 and raised his BA 89pts over ’11, and hit a hr every 10.3x AB at that level. The kid seems real to me.
Any minor league hitter with a modicum of talent does significantly better when he repeats at Double-A or lower? That’s a known fact. Want to bet Nimmo improves his average from .240 to .300+ when he repeats Brooklyn? Let me know I have real cash.
LOL, THIS!
In 2013 Nimmo will get the key to the city from Met fans, daily posts on MetsFlog, that .300 in repeating in the NYPL will be good enough for the Sterling Award winner, ticker tape parade down the canyon of heroes.
Murphy would fit in like hand and glove in Boston. Opposite field hitter….with a short distance to the Green Monster, I can see Murphy putting up monster numbers there
Basically —> Flores IS a big trade chip since he’s now blocked by the underperforming $138 million man.
Flores became our version of Mike Olt..or Lars Anderson…
hang onto him too long and eventually u trade him for BS
Can we at LEAST make ONE MOVE TO IMPROVE the team already???????
We have soooooooooooooooooo much holes.
Between the outfield, Catcher, bullpen it looks like there will be a lot of flights from Las Vegas to Queens in 2013
God help the Las Vegas 51′s
Patience.
I honestly have no more patience lol its been 2 years of terrible baseball…and Im not even talking about the Dickey deal (that can wait)but can we at least start adding somewhere else?
Trading Dickey will not fill all of our hole. And what other pieces does Sandy have to trade that will fill the lineup?
He surely cant trade another starter if he plans on trading Dickey…The Only way I see both Niese and Dickey being traded is if he is super overwhelmed and i dont see that.
I feel like a Pirates or Royals fan and I dont like it.
Man, how did you feel in the 90′s then?
Hahaha!!!
Well in the 90′s they at least gave me hope at the beginning of the seasons. During the season different story. Early to mid 90′s almost every move they made backfired but they seemed to be trying.
HOPE is what they gave me…The age old slogan………………………….
Ya Gotta Believe! I dont Believe anymore
Were they trying or just buying your vote with a bunch of miscasts?
Again, I am content FOR NOW, with the fact that both RA and David have said they are aware of and approve of the plans the FO has for the current and future of the Mets organization.
That said, my patience will run out as the clock strikes midnight and 2014 begins.
“Again, I am content FOR NOW, with the fact that both RA and David have said they are aware of and approve of the plans the FO has for the current and future of the Mets organization.”
The PLANS….lol…I have 3 Bridges for sale in Manhattan, ya think RA and David are interested???lol
Im not buying it til I see it…..Plans always change or even worst dont work out
When an entire eam of past performers become the clowns that team became the issue is not so much the players and all about the crappy manager they hired to get them to do what they should have.
I love Harrelson as a player, as a Manager he just sucked!
Torborg was worse because those players just ran roghshod all over both…
Dallas Green was the Disaster because the players were already used to doing whatever they wanted and no diciplinarian was going to change that untill they got rid of the guys and set an example.
If Green was named Manager first they might have turned things around earlier before the circus got a full head of steam.
And Green was notorious for ruining Pitching staffs even before he got here.
Is that including the three holes in the front office?
Pffft…I cant wait til they are all gone…They make me long for Jim Duquette
He can freak and just let Dickey go, or let one of the other 8 teams freak that they haven’t done enough and blow their juice. Still got a hole other day after today and not much has been done. Soon the dominoes will start to fall. The Dickey resolution might not even happen for a couple more weeks. Team going home with nothing and saying “now what”, are going to want to make a trade. The Mets have all the leverage on this. The FA market is utter crap this year and there are a few teams that need that one piece to get over the top.
You know it used to be that nothing happened until after the Winter Meetings, they were just fluff for everyone to get together and drink. Maybe start the conversations. Now with the internet it’s pressure packed. However, I don’t think they will get top value for Dickey in terms of trade or re-sign until after Grienke lands.
Yea it’s getting crazy now teams see the power in using it as advertising ala the Werth deal. Sounds like Greinke is close;
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That contract would be some hell a foolish.
Big time! Maybe 2 years ago he could warrant close to that due to his age but not now. 5y/100m I think would be totally fair in this market, 160m is crazy town. And it’s not even the anxiety stuff, it sounds like they have it completely squared away, it’s he’s not on that Halladay level.
Honestly considering he can’t or won’t even pitch in certain markets and hasn’t had the most consistent history, I wouldn’t even give him 5/100.
We just finished paying David Wright, Cabrera money….for what he did from 2005-June of 2009…
we are the last people on earth who should talk about overpaying
We just finished paying David Wright, Cabrera money….for what he did from 2005-June of 2009…
We are the last people on earth who should talk about overpaying”
THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^ Be careful, they might change your name to Just-Da-Hater for talking about the golden boy
you think they gave him all that money only for what he does on the field?
you people are more lost than i thought.
I wasnt referring to him rushing with Dickey, I know that will take time. But do we have to wait for that to come to fruition or not before he does anything else?
Yeah, maybe. I think a lot of it hinges on what you get for Dickey if you trade him. Do you want to waste money on a stop gap OF when you could get one that’s better through trading Dickey?
Bro we need at least “TWO OUTFIELDERS” plus a Righty platoon for Duda/Baxter or Nieuwenhuis. Two of those 3 should NOT be in the OF together next year.
I honestly believe our best fit in a trade is Toronto but D’Arnaud would have to be the center piece to that deal with 1 more lower level prospect an either Bonafacio or Rajai Davis…I’ prefer Bonafacio
Which iswhy I say just ge the deal done and move on…He will get even MORE than he is getting now for a Cy Young guy signed to a 3 year deal at 12-15Mil than he will for a one year rental.
Just get it off the plate and look for the other things he needs and I bet while he is looking for those OFer he will come accross a GM that would trade one he likes for Dickey and maybe a kid as well.
HI BLB,
That one move to improve the team would be simply Jeff, Fred and Sandy leaving Flushing.
I think getting help in the OF is a little easier to pull off.
Yeah, they got a much better chance of trading for Stanton and Profar than getting rid of those guys anytime soon.
Sandy will be gone in another year. 2 maximum. The other guys? You will have to wait for them to get taken out in body bags.
Though be careful what you wish for. If you take Fred out of the mix, Jeffy becomes president (or whatever big cheese title Fred has). Then may the lord have mercy on all our souls.
This – on all your points.
LOL.
Hahahahahaha!!!!
Jeff Wilpon is indeed the Met Anti-Christ
Man, who took over for the Blogfather today. Another one on point:
“The thing is, at the very least, the Mets get to bring back a Cy Young Award winner in 2013 making just $5 million. Or, they sign him to an equally reasonable extension, knowing they can revisit contract and trade talks next summer. Or, they trade him now for a young bat, who they project to be more valuable than Dickey will be during the next three years.
There’s really no bad situation here, just less good, and there’s no need to rush it.”
SO then why rush it with wright? Wasn’t he signed for the 2013 season and actually had MORE value and could’ve net us more than dickey? YET we inexplicably chose to extend him instead of dickey?
Different beast and you know it. It was very imperative for both sides to get the deal done early and that is why both sides agreed on what seems to be a very fair deal, still waiting the details of course.
This is why I say your never going to get as much back as you lose by trading Dickey….
No GM is going to want to give up a top kid who could be a major contributor for 7-8 years at dirt cheap prices for the chance to get a guy who at worst is a one year rental or at most will be there 3-4 years and is 2 years shy of 40 once they bite the bullet and pay him what we haven’t.
They have to be guaranteed they get to the playoffs with him before they do that and none of them can be sure of that at this point in time.
Sign him and you might get it at the trade deadline but your not going to get it now.
I’m happy Sandy is holding his ground on a trade but I don’t believe he is going to get it which is why I say get the extention done, and then you can listen to offers that come in and have an even better position to deal with because it’s not a rental and you really don’t need to trade him if you don’t want to so your dealing from greater strength.
No one thought you could get Wheeler for Beltran either but it certainly didn’t hurt us to wait. Won’t hurt us here either.
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MLBTR:
Alderson suggests that the Mets probably won’t take anyone in the Rule 5 draft, and may leave Nashville having only finalized the Wright deal, tweets Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com.
Well……
Is this b/c they’re waiting on Dickey offers to see how their OF pans out?
Hi SRT,
Maybe it’s because they don’t want to get burned with having to freeze up roster spots like they did with Sandy’s other Rule 5 picks?
Npe…it’s because he needs to be able to sign some folks and only has 3 Roster spots available.
Anyone he signs has to be put on the Roster and any Rule 5 he takes has to be put there as well.
We currently have 37 roster spots taken and he still needs to get OF and Pen help so no real room for any Rule5′s unless he finds a stunner that got left off the protected list he feels will be a starter in the MLB right now.
And I’m sure no one like that was left unprotected.
Those empty spots are all reserved for potential signings.
And no sense wasting it on a Rule 5 and limiting who you can sign who will actually be needed for the season.
did Metsie actually just make sense? holy hell the world is ending.
Just a clever impostor. Sounds like him, but there is not one ! in there, so it must be a fake.
you have a point. damn knew it was too good to be true.
You guys are just pissed because I have been rght for two years here and now your all forced to agree with me and prefer to make it sound like I changed somehow….
But look at my posts from two years ago…prettyy damn consistent!
It’s all the moneyballer who seem to have flipped on the REBUILD positions…
lol oh yeah, that’s what it is.
Makes sense.
No offense to David Wright but he is talking with Francessa now and I cant bare to listen to him talk anymore….
He is a good baseball player and he might be a good guy….but he sounds so fake and manufactured every word
#NeverForget
“The money issue for me, I don’t think that will be the deciding factor,” said Wright, who is batting .325 with 16 homers and 75 RBIs and .416 on-base percentage in the final guaranteed season of his six-year contract worth $55 million.
More important, he says, is a chance to win the World Series.
“You want to be able to win, and I’ve only experienced a little bit of that here,” Wright said. “In a perfect world, we get this thing turned around and going in the right direction and ultimately I get to experience the bad, the ugly and the good here, which includes winning.”
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/will_to_win_ndnBMRtF2Lq3FSSjW6rvwO
the Mets have all the leverage here and it is a beautiful thing. Not used to seeing it.
If they get a monster package they trade him. If they can’t get what they want, they extend him probably to closer to their terms than to his terms. You think Dickey wants to pitch another year and hit free agency next year? You think he thinks he’s gonna win another Cy Young. No way. His arm could fall off for all he knows. He’s 38 anything could happen. The money is in this year and he knows it. and the worst thing that happens is we have a Cy young pitcher for 5 million dollars.
Ball is in our court. let’s run the shot clock down.
Agreed.
You all know I hope R.A. stays a Met but if a move is made, I do not think it will be right away – not until the Wilpons squeeze as much advertising revenue as it can by repeating that R.A. special, his one hitter and 20th game victory on SNY for as much as they can.
Being the legal mind that he is, Sandy has thought of a new way to save money. He has contacted the Internal Revenue Service requesting the Mets get their tax status changed to that of a non-profit organization.