If he thinks what he is doing is right then he isn’t being forced he is merely complicit!
And deserves the blame.

He’s not doing that he is going along with what he knows is bad or worse agres with them….
In either case he is the problem more than the Wilpons because he is playing the role of mask and scapegoat if what everyone wants to believe is true!

My feeling is if you wish to ruin your company and tell me /Force me to do it, I will leave and work for someone interested in doing a GOOD job and keep my personal integrity so I can get the NEXT job!
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METSIE, KEPING IN MIND YOUR PROCLAIMED HISTORY OF HAVING FOLLOWED THISADVICE YOURSELF ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.
I MUST REMIND U OF HOW MUCH “GROUP-THINK” OCCURS AMONG THE 30 TEAMS, EACH OF WHICH HAS 1 GM POSITION MEANING AS SOON AS ALDERSON WERE TO ISSUE YOUR PROPOSED PROCLAIMATION, ASSUMABLE IN HIS RESIGNATION LETTER, THE 29 OTHER TEAMS’ IMMEDIATELY BRAND HIM AS A “TRAITOR” PRIMARILY BECAUSE NO OTHRE OWNER WOULD RISK HAVING SUCH A LOOSE CANNON ON THEIR PAYROLL.
U MUST UNDERSTAND THAT THE NY FAN PERSPECTIVE OF “DESERVING” CHAMPIONSHIOPS SIMPLY BY BEING IN NYC IS CONSIDED A HUGE JOKE THROUGHOUT THE SPORTS INDUSTRY LOCATED ANYWHERE ELSE. FANS OUTSIDE NYC WILL HAPILY STATE THE HOPE FOR, WISH FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP YET NOT ONE OTHER IS LIKELY TO USE THE WORD ‘DEMAND’ NOT IN ST LOUIS, KANSAS CITY, OAKLAND, LOS ANGELES/ANAHEIM, NOT EVEN BOSTON. NO, MY RIEND SIMPLY BECAUSE U ARE A FAN LIVING IN NY DOES NOT GUARANTEE U ANY TROPHIES OR JEWELRY.
THOSE SAME EMPLOYERS LOKELY FEEL THE WILPONS ARE PRACTICING SANITY AROUND A STABKLE STEP BY STEP REBUILDING PLAN EACH OF THEM ENDURED AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER MANY OF WHICH FAILED, YET THEWY ARE LIKELY PROUD THEY NEVER PANICED INTO THE QUICKSAND THAT IS HE “QUICK-FIX OVER SPENDING OF UNEARNED FUTURE INCOME. NO, MY FRIEND WHEREAS YOUHAVE PERSONALLY VINDIVCATED YOUR PERSONAL INTEGRITY U MUST CONSIDER YOUR POSITION NEVER, FOR THE MOST PARET REC’D NEIGHBORHOOD LET ALONE NATIONAL PRESS FIXATION.
I VERY MUCH DOUBT ALDERSON IS PREPARED TO ETUIRE PREMANENTLY AS HESTILL NEEDS TO SUPPLY HIS DOG WITGH KIBBLES. A GM WHO EXPOSES/BETRAYS HIS OWNERS IS A PARIAH AMONG ALL OWNERS & ITS NOT LIKE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF OPENINGS TO CHOOSE FROM.
IF ABSOLUTE TRUTH BE TOKLD LITTLE OF WHART WE SPECULATE & COMPLAIN ABOUT HERE VIS-AVIS INCOMPETANT OWNERSHIP IS A SECRET AMONG THE 29 OTHER MEMBERS OF THE MLB OWNERSHIP CLUB AND MORE THAN LIKELY THEIR POSITION IS THAT ALDERSON SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER THAN TO ACCEPT WILPON MONEY
IT SHOULD BE NOTEWORTHY THAT IN AN INDUSTRY RENOWNED FOR RETREADING, RECYCLING EXPERIENCED MNGT EMPLOYEES THAT WHILE CERTAIN FORMER EMPLOYEES OF OTHER TEAMS ie BOSOX RELATIVLY RELOCATE IN A PARALELL MOVE TO OTHERCLUBS WHHILE BEING A NYM MNGT EMPLOYEE SEEMS TO BE THE LAST STOP FOR MOST IN THEIR BASEBALL EMPLOYMENT CURVE PHILLIPS,DUQUETTE, MINAYA, HOWE, RANDOLPH, MANUEL IF NOT FOR ANALYST MEDIA OSITIONS THEIR OVERALL CAREERS WERE PRONOUNCED DOA.

And definitly is a group that spends most of it’s time avoiding accountability for anything they do and use the press available to try and get thier story out as the fact when we know it is anything but….

We can’t do anything about the owners which is why I don’t see any point putting the blame on them…

But Sandy has chosen to hurt his legacy if he is doing thier bidding and deserves the knocks he gets!

If your not doing the BEST JOB possible then your the problem…If your boss insists then Sandy could endear himself to the fans by coming out and saying “I can’t deal with these guys they are interfering and making me destroy the team!

THEN the Wilpons will be affected and forced to sell the team and Sandy becomes a hero in NYC for solving the problems of this team…

He’s not doing that he is going along with what he knows is bad or worse agres with them….
In either case he is the problem more than the Wilpons because he is playing the role of mask and scapegoat if what everyone wants to believe is true!

My feeling is if you wish to ruin your company and tell me /Force me to do it, I will leave and work for someone interested in doing a GOOD job and keep my personal integrity so I can get the NEXT job!

AS THE DECISION HIERARCHY $3 IS MIDDLE BY MY RECOLLECTION, 1-3 IS UPPER FROM MY VANTAGE POINT
BASED UPON HIS INTERVIEW Re REYES & WRIGHT, WE KNOW FRED ISN’T CLIPPING COUPONS AT HOME; BUT TOO INVOLVED IN OPERATIONAL THINKING & SAUL IS HIS LOYAL SECOND BOTH a STERLING & IN FLUSHING SAUL IS BASICLY FRED’SECHO FROM MY VIEW OF THINGS, IF FRED IS “OUT OF TOUCH” ON A SUBJECT, SAUL, REST ASSURED WILL HAVE HIS BACK & ENFORCE HIS, FRED’S, WILL; EVEN OVER HIS NEPHEW, JEFF.

I wouldn’t get too upset about it.

One of them I left because the decision that came down on high was going to bankrupt the company, kill services and I refused to implement it. They went bankrupt a year and a half after I left.

Yes Middle Managers have little choice nor can they be so bold.

Sandy isn’t a middle manager here.He is upper management!
It’s HIS reputation on the line, HIS legacy.
And any executive with a shred of self respect would say to the guy ordering him to do what he does not want to do or believe is right, would tell him you don’t like how I’m running it then replace me but I will not follow an order I believe will hurt the company!

Cause he is the one who is going to be judged on it not the boss that forced him to!

you dont think there is nepotism involved here??

LMAO

ok

I guess Jeff Wilpon is COO because of his incredible business and baseball knowledge

OF COURSE IT’S BLATANTLY OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE THAT UNLESS THE MANAGER IS THE SOLE PROPRIETOR HIS EDICTS DEPICT SOMEONE ELSE’S PARAMETERS. BTW. TRUST ME WHEN I SAY THAT ABSOLUTELY NO GM IN BASEBALL OR ANY OTHER BUSINESS IS 100% AUTONOMOUS ANY SUGGESTION OTHERWISE IS LUDICROUS FI THEY WERE THE THEY AREDN’T GENERAL MANAGERS THEY ARE OWNER OPERATORS. CAPICHE?

Truth of the Mets is Jeff isn’t running things he is just trying to appear to run them…
He doesn’t pass wind without Fred’s permission and truth is he is the spy for Fred and Saul not the guy employing the spys.

EVALUATING THE EDUCATIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE 4 ADULT MALE HEIRS WE FIND 1 MBA, 1 BA, 1 BS & 1 ASSOCIATES DEGREE SOMEHOW THIS ONE UNDER-ACHIEVING DISAPPOINTMENT HAS BEEN PLACED ATOP THE OTHER 3 IN NY MET RELATED BUSINESSES AS CEO OF NYM , SNY. WHERE ESE IS THERE A COMMUNITY COLLEGE GRADUATE CONTROLLING MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR ORGANIZATIONS?

HISTORICALLY THE FAMILY’S INTERNAL MET DEALINGS HAVE INCLUDED DISTRUST OF NON FAMILIAL EXECUTIVES AS THE PERRENIAL FAMILY UNDER-ACHIEVER, JEFF WILPON IS VERY TYPICAL FOR “STATURE CHALLENGED” MEN IN POWER, RESORTING TO INTERNAL “SPY NETWORKS” & INORDINATE DEMAND TO PERSONALLY MICROMANAGE CONTROL(SEE GERMANY CIRCA 30s & 40s) OR 18th CENTURY FRANCE.
IN A HIERARCHY SO POORLY CONSTRUCTED WITH TYPICAL GM POWERS WIDELY DISPERSED DELIBERATELY TO REFRACT BLAME AWAY FROM CEO(NYM ORG CHART ONCE REFERRED TO AS “FRATHOUSE” IN NATURE BY HOF WRITER BILL MADDEN IN ’02 DUE TO POWER NEEDING SINGLE DECISION CAPABILITY REQUIRES COMITTE LIKE INTERNAL AGREEMENT..
SURELY IT IS LOGICAL TO CONCEIVE OF THIS OLEGARCHY ALLOWING THE SIGNING OF BOTH PLAYERS, RESTRICTED WITHIN SPEFCIFIC FINANCIAL TERMS FOR EXAMPLE ALDERSON INFORMED HE CAN RESIGN DICKEY;BUT ONLY IF COSTS ARE UNDER A SPECIFIC VERY RESTRICTED PARAMETER..
IT HAS LONG BEEN MY OPINION THAT NELSON DOUBLEDAY’S ASSESSMENT OF JEFF WILPION AS AN INCOMPETANT FOOL OUT OF HIS DEPTH WAS THE MOST ACCURATE NYM REATED ASSESSMENT OF THE 21srt CENTURY

NO ONE SHOULD EVER MISTAKE THE NATURE OF THE JOB TITLE OF NYM GENERAL MANAGER AS INCLUDING ANY CAPABILITY TO COMMIT WILPON MONEY UNLESS SPECIFICALLY APPRVED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

You do not fit into either of those categories here!

Onto the topic at hand.

IF Sandy had made a big effort to sign either of them to a contract as his FIRST step then I could believe he wanted to keep them and would only trade them if the price wasn’t right.
But his first move was to look for trades. He got quotes from Wright and Dickey but never really made a concerted effort to negotiate with them until AFTER he found out no one would give him his significant change in a trade.

And unfortunatly in Sandy’s History his first preference is always to TRADE not Negotiate.

Did it with K-Rod – Could have gotten that Option killed and kept his closer
Did it with Beltran – Could have at least tried to see what Beltran would want to extend
Did it with Pagan – didn’t even need to negotiate as he was under control but chose to trade him despite having no option at CF to replace him
Did it with Reyes – Never negotiated at all just let him go for picks.

Every move involving major MLB players has been one where a good player is sold off for multiple scrub bandaids (Beltran the exception).

That might be considered significant change but then again change isn’t always change for the better.

Whatever your opinion of Jeff and Fred Wilpon, I imagine they have as much personal history in the game as any principle owners this side of Nolan Ryan.

HOWEVER, I FIRST NEED TO CLARIFY MY POSITION ON ALDERSON AS A NYM GM.

I’M UNDECIDED;

LET ME RISK APPEARUING AS AN APOLOGIST BY TRYING TO CLARIFY HOW I CAN EVALUATE HIS CONTENT WITHIN THE CONTEXT U PROVIDED. CERTAINLY HE CAN HONESTLY BELIEVE HE WANTS TO KEEP BOTH WRIGHT & DICKEY WHILE AT THE SAME INSTANT BELIEVE IT TO BE UNLIKELY CREATING AN OPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE VALUABLE ADDITIONS TO THE ROSTER BASED UPON HIS PERSONAL ASSESSMENT OF HIS PLAYERS VALUE ON THETRADE-MARKET.
SURELYTHOSE CONDITIONS IF THEY ACTUALLY EXISTED COULD ERASE ANY LYING CONSIDERATION BECAUSE CERTAINLY A GM IS PRECLUDED FROM STATING WHAT HE BELIEVES IS OBVIOUS TO HIM “I WANT BOTH; BUT I’M UNLIKELY KEEPING BOTH”

You are so right – one being a coordinator can make it appear that one is more important than he or she really is in the overall scheme of things.

And I say that even at the expense of my own self personally because my title is indeed “coordinator” as well.

Though I feel I do make an important contribution as part of the team, I also make no pretensions about the fact that others do the real vital foot work for our projects and that I provide the necessary administrative support to keep it all order and everyone in sync.

Meaning, I couldn’t do the job of those I coordinate. And that is fine with me for in all modesty, I do feel I am an excellent administrator (saying that so not to come across having a severe inferiority complex by putting myself down ) .

If you’d relax and deal with people as they present themselves and not attack phantom straw men in your head, you’d realize there *are* no guys like me.

One day you will realize that the scouting coordinator isn’t really as important as you make it out to be….

Kind of the same as a Party Coodinator…He may make the suggestions on what to get but the folks he works for are the ones who say YES and NO!