But your downgrading more at 3B than you are upgrading the other two positions combined because GMs don’t give you more talent than you gave away.

Why would you do that?

It’s adorable that people like you are still coming up with ways to chat about the Mets and find ways to have a new 3B. At some point you’re going to have to wake up and realize that contract was not signed in invisible ink and he’s the 3B.

So nope, ur not creating a “hole” per say, you are downgrading 1 position ( 3B ) to upgrade 2 others.

The best of all scenarios WOULD HAVE BEEN

Wright
Reyes
Tejada
Ike

Braun, OTOH, was caught in the act, so there is no question that he did cheat. His entire record now is in question.

If you are doing steroids in any quantity necessary to gain a competitive advantage, you are most likely going to be caught these days as MLB’s testing program is pretty rigorous. Wright has never failed a test for steroids.

What stat you use to define “clutch” is very important. In Fangraph’s case, they use a stat which compares performance in high leverage situations to how the player does in neutral situations. This, IMO, is the best way to assess clutchness. And Fangraph actually calls the stat “clutch” so there is no mistake what they intended it to define. The stat on BR which is analogous to that is tOPS+, which you’ll also find in the “Leverage” section (look at the end of the row). tOPS+ is also adjusted for park factors, the only fair way to assess two hitters who have played in vastly different types of parks. So then what we have then for tOPS+ for high leverage situations is:

Wright: 105
Braun: 97

This just confirms Fangraph’s finding. Wright is better than average for high leverage situations and Braun is a “loser” or does worse in such situations. Braun is actually below league average here.

Even if you look at just the raw numbers, Wright has a higher BA and OBP in high leverage situations than Braun does. The small edge Braun has in the raw OPS is solely because of SLG, the number most impacted by park factors.

It’s pretty interesting that Fangraphs and BR agree with each other here.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=wrighda03&year=Career&t=b#lever,
Wrights High LVG OPS is 911

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=braunry02&year=Career&t=b#lever
Brauns High LVG OPS is 925

I know Braun plays in a banbox and got caught using his ass as a pin cushion but his numbers on the road are nearly the same as in Miller Park. He never tested positive before 2011 so who really knows when he started with that and if you take a look at Wrights arms when he’s not wearing a baggy jersey he’s packing some big arms. I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s dabbled with that himself. Again I’m speaking objectively. I’m not on the Wright Bashwagon like a lot of people here. You would think with the lack of star quality players the Mets have developed in their history Wright would be a little more appreciated.

Which is why Reyes is outta here!
SO you approve of this now?

it’s insulting to the intelligence and essentially self-defeating if its followed up with Andres Torres in CF instead of Josh H or Michael Bourne.

the mets do not have the money to supply them with a 25 man roster capable of winning games

the mets DID have several trade chips ( including wheeler and flores ) to make a very good attempt at filling 5 different holes in their team.

Trading David Wright for a package that brings back G-Stanton UPGRADES your offense as Stanton right now is exponentially better than Wright AND upgrades your outfield defense.

Moving a place-holder like Murph to 3B makes all the sense in the world.

Hell if you trade Dickey + Flores + Familia + Murph to Texas for Profur + Olt,

Trade Niese for Travis D’anard – straight up

Your squad now is

1B – Ike
2B – Tejada
SS – Profur/Andrus
3B – Olt
C – Travis
CF – Gose
RF – Stanton
LF – Duda

Rotation = Harvey, Wheeler, Gee, Santana

now you have the money to go after a Greinke, a Roy Holliday, a Cliff Lee or even a King Felix in 2014

Of course you take the hit in year one with fans getting to know the product, but a squad with that much talent will win games and bring in fans in years to come.

Instead we are locked in to mediocrity

As I said all your doing is MOVING THE HOLE!

You didn’t replace the guy that IS the hole you just moved him from one position to another and now have TWO HOLES the one at 3B and the new one at 2B!

Flores isn’t ready yet!

So you are not getting anywhere by mentioning him until he is.
If he’s that good then trade him to improve the 2B spot your so worried about!

also, what was the performance of those players in the 4 years prior signing?

I have never seen a position player perform UNDER his career avg in the 4 years prior to signing and STILL get a contract like that.

You guys are acting like Crawford and A-Rod were putting up their CURRENT level of production PRIOR to being signed.

You cant get mad if David hits .295 with 18 HR and 94 RBI 3 years from now…but gets paid 20 mil a year

thats par for the course for what he is doing now

David is only getting you 20 HR a year…and if he is tanking in the 2nd half, Id rather pay Murph or Flores 410K to give me 10 mil in production.

Not a Moneyball fan, but im not a Pom pom waver either. I want the mets to win a WS, I dont care if Snow Wright and the seven dwarfs are on the field with him

7.4
5.6
6.7

thats an avg of 6.5

David Wright’s WAR for the last 4 years

2.5
1.6
6.7

10.8

thats an avg of 3.2

You probably want to pick another 3B to compare David Wright to…

no it would just move it to 3B instead….

SO the only right thing he did was tade Beltran….
Should have traded everyone else….

Ok Your a Moneyballer and thats all we need to know!

THE ONLY right thing he did was trading BELTRAN

Had he gone ALL THE WAY, he would have traded Reyes….in June…when he KNEW that the Mets were NOT going to be able to afford him.

Letting Reyes go for nothing was absolutely the WORST thing to do

As I said before, resigning Reyes >>>> trading Reyes >>>> letting Reyes go for nothing.

Now that Reyes is gone…and there is a huge defensive issue at 2b as a result…

Trading Wright for a SS would help alleviate that issue.

Freeing up salary in RF, 3B, and SS would enable the mets to have the ability to extend and cost-control the young players they have on their team and later supplement them with the veterans they need to go over the top.

I’m thinking the Braves with Terry Pendelton and Sid Bream and Lonnie Smith and their relief crew..this is sustainable.

Not the 1996 Yankees surrounding 4 rookies with the 1992 All-Star team and acting like they are a home-grown team, thats not sustainable…unless you are the yankees

Letting Reyes go created a domino effect both in the lineup and defensively, this domino effect in my opinion warrants trading for a SS,

I believe trading Wright could’ve landed them that top SS and probably more

thats all

Jessup ready to give up on Sandy if he doesn’t do something good
Sandy signing someone to a long term second gen contract
Fonzie agreeing with me on Pagan
Us agreeing here on this…

We are frikken doomed come the 21st!

Whats worse is some calendar from the currently latino part of the world predicted it!
LOL

And comparing Wright’s contract to Longoria’s and deeming it not a good contract b/c Longoria’s is better (and technically Longo’s is 100/6, not 100/10) isn’t really fair. That is just one guy…and Longoria was signed a full four years before he was due to hit FA…so the situations aren’t really that comparable. If we are just going to compare him to one player we could pick other arbitrary examples like Crawford’s 140 mil for 7 years or A-Rod’s 10 year 275 mil contract…and use that to conclude Wright’s contract is a huge bargain.

And actually bringing up Wright’s 2010 is a perfect example of how homeruns aren’t the end all be all. Wright’s 2012 was much better than his 2012 despite him hitting more HRs in 2010.

You want to laud Beltre and hate on Wright. I was just pointing out that Beltre isn’t exactly Mr. Perfect. Beltre was mediocre at best offensively during his time in Seattle despite hitting the “magical” “25″ HR plateau a few times. His average line over his full FIVE YEARS there .266/.317/.442/.759 is nearly identical to the 2.5 bad MONTHS (.258/.334/.416/.750) Wright had the second half of last year that you can’t stop crying about….and routinely cite as a reason to get rid of him. If Wright put up Beltre’s Seattle numbers he’d get absolutely slaughtered by fans