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	<title>Comments on: Mets On Verge Of Trading Dickey, Blue Jays Travis D’Arnaud A &#8220;Must Have&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: DrDooby</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/blue-jays-in-lead-to-land-dickey-darnaud-a-must.html#comment-322559</link>
		<dc:creator>DrDooby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best thing to do before assessing this trade is to await the final package. 
Dickey for Gose &amp; Arencibia would be a fine &amp; fair trade imho. Mets get a stud CF prospect with Gold Glove defense and Michael Bourn caliber upside offensively, plus a solid young league average C with 10 years of combined service time for 1 year of RA. 

Dickey for D´Arnaud &amp; Gose would be a great trade, though I can´t imagine that happens unless the Mets include something else that´s significant. 

I also wouldn´t be surprised to see Thole included in this as Dickey´s personal C, especially if D´Arnaud is involved. In that case, maybe Buck heads to the Mets, also to keep D´Arnaud at AAA to open 2013, possibly. All sorts of options here. Wouldn´t be surprised at all if this ends up being a major trade with 7 or 8 players involved and going back &amp; forth. 
LHP Brett Cecil is also someone who could also be a nice fit here as a lefty for the bullpen or back-end SP btw. 

In any case, while I´ll keep rooting for Dickey and adopt the Blue Jays as my favorite AL team for 2013, this has the potential to be a very helpful trade for the Mets longterm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best thing to do before assessing this trade is to await the final package.<br />
Dickey for Gose &amp; Arencibia would be a fine &amp; fair trade imho. Mets get a stud CF prospect with Gold Glove defense and Michael Bourn caliber upside offensively, plus a solid young league average C with 10 years of combined service time for 1 year of RA. </p>
<p>Dickey for D´Arnaud &amp; Gose would be a great trade, though I can´t imagine that happens unless the Mets include something else that´s significant. </p>
<p>I also wouldn´t be surprised to see Thole included in this as Dickey´s personal C, especially if D´Arnaud is involved. In that case, maybe Buck heads to the Mets, also to keep D´Arnaud at AAA to open 2013, possibly. All sorts of options here. Wouldn´t be surprised at all if this ends up being a major trade with 7 or 8 players involved and going back &amp; forth.<br />
LHP Brett Cecil is also someone who could also be a nice fit here as a lefty for the bullpen or back-end SP btw. </p>
<p>In any case, while I´ll keep rooting for Dickey and adopt the Blue Jays as my favorite AL team for 2013, this has the potential to be a very helpful trade for the Mets longterm.</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>XtreemIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 05:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It should be kept in mind, but it&#039;s not as if anyone&#039;s expecting TD to hit .330/.380/.600 in the majors. Those people would be overlooking it. The fact that he dominated a league is enough for me. Everyone else in the league played in the same parks as he did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be kept in mind, but it&#8217;s not as if anyone&#8217;s expecting TD to hit .330/.380/.600 in the majors. Those people would be overlooking it. The fact that he dominated a league is enough for me. Everyone else in the league played in the same parks as he did.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 05:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, I agree. They are both very talented prospects and bring a lot to the table. However, the league they play in is a VERY hitter friendly league, so that is something that shouldn&#039;t be overlooked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, I agree. They are both very talented prospects and bring a lot to the table. However, the league they play in is a VERY hitter friendly league, so that is something that shouldn&#8217;t be overlooked.</p>
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		<title>By: This is stupid</title>
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		<dc:creator>This is stupid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 05:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Same with bourjos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same with bourjos.</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>XtreemIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 05:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thing to keep in mind is the other attributes both players bring. Both are top defenders at their position and Gose can make it back from the bathroom before the toilet stops flushing. No one ever brings that up. It&#039;s just that this guy hit .260. And that&#039;s all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing to keep in mind is the other attributes both players bring. Both are top defenders at their position and Gose can make it back from the bathroom before the toilet stops flushing. No one ever brings that up. It&#8217;s just that this guy hit .260. And that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just completely sick watching the news on this, this evening.
I don&#039;t know what the answer is but I&#039;m pretty sure gun control and even metal detectors probably wouldn&#039;t prevent a tragedy such as this.  If an unbalanced person wants to get it, nothing is going to stop them.

Much like these RAD rumors we&#039;re following tonight, so much of the earlier reported facts the news was putting out on this tragedy was incorrect.  So many news outlets are just too eager to be the first reporting on this that they just start spitting out any and all rumors that are coming in.  Qualifying it with &#039;this is unconfirmed&#039; is ridiculous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just completely sick watching the news on this, this evening.<br />
I don&#8217;t know what the answer is but I&#8217;m pretty sure gun control and even metal detectors probably wouldn&#8217;t prevent a tragedy such as this.  If an unbalanced person wants to get it, nothing is going to stop them.</p>
<p>Much like these RAD rumors we&#8217;re following tonight, so much of the earlier reported facts the news was putting out on this tragedy was incorrect.  So many news outlets are just too eager to be the first reporting on this that they just start spitting out any and all rumors that are coming in.  Qualifying it with &#8216;this is unconfirmed&#8217; is ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m saying to just be careful not to overrate the Jays prospects because they are playing in a very hitter friendly league.

The PCL can make hitters seem better than what they really are. That is a fact. And all I&#039;m saying is to keep that fact in mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m saying to just be careful not to overrate the Jays prospects because they are playing in a very hitter friendly league.</p>
<p>The PCL can make hitters seem better than what they really are. That is a fact. And all I&#8217;m saying is to keep that fact in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi If,

No offense taken by us older guys.   Am sure he had a man-child like Jeff help him out. 

But what I&#039;m really expecting is an email going out to us on the Mets mailing list immediately after any trade telling us how we&#039;re going to surprise a lot of people in 2013.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi If,</p>
<p>No offense taken by us older guys.   Am sure he had a man-child like Jeff help him out. </p>
<p>But what I&#8217;m really expecting is an email going out to us on the Mets mailing list immediately after any trade telling us how we&#8217;re going to surprise a lot of people in 2013.</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>XtreemIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what you&#039;re saying is, Gose was an average hitter for his league and D&#039;Arnaud still blew the league away?

Fail to see an issue here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what you&#8217;re saying is, Gose was an average hitter for his league and D&#8217;Arnaud still blew the league away?</p>
<p>Fail to see an issue here.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi srt,

And you know the gun lobbyists will blame the parents for not sending their children to school carrying firearms to protect themselves.  I&#039;m sure you know I&#039;m saying that not to be funny but because I&#039;m so disgusted that the U.S. has to be one of the few countries in the western world in which having firearms (not hunting rifles, etc) is illegal.  Even with Connecticut&#039;s strict gun laws, those guns were registered not to the killer but his mother and thus were legally owned.    So it wasn&#039;t a failure with any law, it&#039;s again a failure of the way we live.

Twenty children between the ages of five and ten lost their lives and for all those other kids, they&#039;ve lost their innocence at too young an age and will no doubt this is going to haunt both them and their parents, as it would most anyone outside that gun lobby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi srt,</p>
<p>And you know the gun lobbyists will blame the parents for not sending their children to school carrying firearms to protect themselves.  I&#8217;m sure you know I&#8217;m saying that not to be funny but because I&#8217;m so disgusted that the U.S. has to be one of the few countries in the western world in which having firearms (not hunting rifles, etc) is illegal.  Even with Connecticut&#8217;s strict gun laws, those guns were registered not to the killer but his mother and thus were legally owned.    So it wasn&#8217;t a failure with any law, it&#8217;s again a failure of the way we live.</p>
<p>Twenty children between the ages of five and ten lost their lives and for all those other kids, they&#8217;ve lost their innocence at too young an age and will no doubt this is going to haunt both them and their parents, as it would most anyone outside that gun lobby.</p>
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		<title>By: sallybaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>sallybaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah I was kind of getting desperate for some young impact players. You&#039;re totally right though, they more likely to be busts than live up to their potential.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I was kind of getting desperate for some young impact players. You&#8217;re totally right though, they more likely to be busts than live up to their potential.</p>
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		<title>By: Met Maniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Met Maniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sally, one will certainly be a bust. That&#039;s a fact. Prospects do not have a 100% success rate, it&#039;s 50%. But knowing the Mets and their effed up karma, both could be busts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sally, one will certainly be a bust. That&#8217;s a fact. Prospects do not have a 100% success rate, it&#8217;s 50%. But knowing the Mets and their effed up karma, both could be busts.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still, the PCL does increase hitter&#039;s numbers:

PCL average: .278/.345/.430	

IL average:    .257/ .328/.389

Las Vegas is a notorious hitters park, and so are other stadiums in that league. Some of the other stadiums in that league are just as much as a hitter&#039;s paradise as Las Vegas, so his away numbers could possibly be inflated as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still, the PCL does increase hitter&#8217;s numbers:</p>
<p>PCL average: .278/.345/.430	</p>
<p>IL average:    .257/ .328/.389</p>
<p>Las Vegas is a notorious hitters park, and so are other stadiums in that league. Some of the other stadiums in that league are just as much as a hitter&#8217;s paradise as Las Vegas, so his away numbers could possibly be inflated as well.</p>
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		<title>By: sallybaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>sallybaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope we make the right decision here... I don&#039;t want any busts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope we make the right decision here&#8230; I don&#8217;t want any busts.</p>
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		<title>By: ifthevansrockin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ifthevansrockin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You think Jay knows what twitter is?  Heck, at his age, he may not even have a cell phone!

Just a joke people.  No need for the old folks to get their depends in a bunch.

That was also a joke.  Please appreciate it regardless of your age.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think Jay knows what twitter is?  Heck, at his age, he may not even have a cell phone!</p>
<p>Just a joke people.  No need for the old folks to get their depends in a bunch.</p>
<p>That was also a joke.  Please appreciate it regardless of your age.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;... guns aren’t the problem, people are.&#039;

Amen to that.
Mental illness is becoming an epidemic in this country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;&#8230; guns aren’t the problem, people are.&#8217;</p>
<p>Amen to that.<br />
Mental illness is becoming an epidemic in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: ifthevansrockin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ifthevansrockin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gose it is only 21, so it is not unexpected or unreasonable to see him improving.  He has been going up before last year in AAA too.  D&#039;A is also not that old.

Now, if they were 25 with 3,000 MiL ABs of the same output, and suddenly spiked in a hitters park, that would be a real red flag!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gose it is only 21, so it is not unexpected or unreasonable to see him improving.  He has been going up before last year in AAA too.  D&#8217;A is also not that old.</p>
<p>Now, if they were 25 with 3,000 MiL ABs of the same output, and suddenly spiked in a hitters park, that would be a real red flag!</p>
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		<title>By: ifthevansrockin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ifthevansrockin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[only guarantee is that he will be traded.  Unless he isn&#039;t.  And it will be to the Blue Jays.  Unless it is the rangers.  Or another team that no one rumored about.

No need to check out MB now, so you are welcome.

My WAG, based on nothing but a gas bubble, is that a deal will go down to some completely unexpected team like Atlanta or the Yankees.  Unless it doesn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>only guarantee is that he will be traded.  Unless he isn&#8217;t.  And it will be to the Blue Jays.  Unless it is the rangers.  Or another team that no one rumored about.</p>
<p>No need to check out MB now, so you are welcome.</p>
<p>My WAG, based on nothing but a gas bubble, is that a deal will go down to some completely unexpected team like Atlanta or the Yankees.  Unless it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Met Maniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Met Maniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Vinny&#039;s point:

Gose batted .286 last season in Vegas. Before that he never batted higher than .262 in his five years in minors. His OPS was 50 points higher than his career mark.

d&#039;Arnaud&#039;s slugging of .595 was over 120 points than his career mark. His OPS was 160 points higher in Vegas! 

RED FLAGS for sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Vinny&#8217;s point:</p>
<p>Gose batted .286 last season in Vegas. Before that he never batted higher than .262 in his five years in minors. His OPS was 50 points higher than his career mark.</p>
<p>d&#8217;Arnaud&#8217;s slugging of .595 was over 120 points than his career mark. His OPS was 160 points higher in Vegas! </p>
<p>RED FLAGS for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>XtreemIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the great/terrible thing about negotiations like this, especially with social media involved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the great/terrible thing about negotiations like this, especially with social media involved.</p>
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