I too try to see the glass half full as well, remember?

And because of that, this is why I find the holes in Sandy’s plan because I believe the team he inherited from Omar was a good one – we must not forget the part played by the injuries that befell us in 2009 and 2010. No, we were not a complete club going into 2011, but we could have attempted to fill those holes then instead of going after mediocre ones that came cheap.

There was not only no money to spend but a need to cut down expenses as well so that is why I speak of Sandy’s moves being a plan of a banker and not a baseball team. Given the financial circumstances there was no way we could compete over the course of 162 games and no way we could do anything else but to retain those like Davis, Gee, Parnell, etc. who were ready for the big leagues and didn’t cost much, get rid of the others and start all over. But that is a financial plan – again, the breakup did not have anything to do with the team as it stood.

No general manager says he will give a team two weeks to show him something (regarding Beltran) when playing at a .575 clip for almost half a season. He also said if the team wasn’t able to get good players in return, he would then be open to monetary considerations. I don’t see how that can be considered anything other than an indication that his plan was less to build for the future of the team as it was build for the financial future of the ownership (Beltran’s remaining $2.6 million salary in itself wasn’t much but it was just one of so many that when added up together, did result in a lot of savings). His goal was to get rid of the high salaries – and eventually that included ten percent of the organization’s work force which wasn’t getting high salaries.

As said, Carlos and Pagan could have been those stopgap measures until the kids were ready a few years later. If Sandy wants to explain why the Mets stopped scoring runs in the second half, he need not point out to PPPA and blame the hitters for going against his edict based on statistics but rather he should have pointed to to himself and taken the blame for us no longer having Beltran, Pagan and Reyes.

That’s why I say his plan is full of holes and from the beginning was full of sh*t. And I do not have faith in a general manager who not only tried to explain things in PPPA, but also said he could not comment on what was wrong with Ike Davis because he was only an observer (isn’t a baseball man supposed to be one who is able to see things?) and said in 2010 there was nothing wrong with Citi Field regarding the lack of home runs but that the Met hitters had to learn how to hit home runs there.

He’s a banker, a lawyer, a business person and not here because he knows how to handle baseball matters.

But that doesn’t mean the glass is not half full. After all, I do think what he has doing will lead to Fred and Jeff remaining owners. It’s just a matter of whose glass we’re talking about.

Also another thing, whenever a new administration takes over, their only resources at the time is what was left over from the previous administration. In this case most of the talented prospects inherited from Omar, with the exception of Flores and Harvey, were just about major league ready, if not already on the club. It was mostly the lower minors that was devoid of talent. And this explains why some of the veterans worth anything were sacrificed in trades, to build the pool of talented prospects who are major league ready or almost there. So just remember, if these players do succeed, they will be a blend of Omar’s and the new FO.

How resouceful you are….

just FYI.

Oh, that’s why you sign free agents. Here I thought it was because they’d help the team win. Silly me. At least you have your priorities straight.

You can say it all you want but until they win more than they did when he got here he is not building a winner at all…

They have prayers and hopes he is but the reality on the ground (standings and Win column) says otherwise….

And even with that, Omar was able to produce Joe Smith who was an all-star, Daniel Murphy, Ike Davis, along with several other good contributers.

The proper way would’ve been to punt on 2005, trade Floyd and Cameron and Glavine for a ton of prospects, then cross your fingers and pray that in 2008/2009 those prospects pan out.

But that means 7 straight abysmal seasons. The Wilpons are now working on their 4th straight abysmal season. This amount of financial loss is uncharted territory for them and the fact that they havent reacted with signing a free-agent player to appease the masses says that they are probably in bigger trouble than we realize.

David Wright saved them 8 mil

Jason Bay saved them 12 mil

and they STILL are not signing anyone

Something is up

( crossing fingers )

As Satish and I were discussing, how many years of “stop gap” measures does one have to take waiting for the farm system to produce what many believe is an impossible task with too many holes to fill? When does one just stop going out and obtaining “inexpensive” players but good ones to blend in with that youth? Even Kansas City is doing that now. Washington pursued that trail the past few seasons. Toronto looks like a team ready to make a move. And all three of those teams look like they have a bright future, not just a bright “now”.

A “plan” is based on using the resources one already has available. If that meant Sandy already counting on the players he saw in the farm system and the young ones already up then yes – that, along with formulating a strategy on how to improve that stock through future free agent signings, trades and draft pick selections – is indeed a plan with many complicated moves and decisions going into it.

If Sandy was counting on most of the resources he had at the time then those he was told to have promise would have been acquired under Omar, not his administration. In addition, all would have had at least one year of minor league experience under their belt when he came on board. They would now have at least three – enough time for many to be ready for a shot at the big leagues and thus no longer a need for so many stopgap measures as in the two prior years.

And if Sandy didn’t like what his baseball people told him were down on the farm, that would mean re-building the farm system from nearly scratch. Yes, it would be an indictment of what was left over by Omar but is indeed a natural process taken on by many teams without the financial resources of the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, etc. But that would not be a plan as it is deciding to start from scratch and hoping they can do something.

A plan is a well thought out projection of steps to be taken and that does include what Sandy did – getting rid of what one feels (right or wrong) is waste for young talent with potential. But the young talent has to be accommodated by veteran talent as well in order for the entire plan to be a whole and that is a road Sandy has not pursued. Sandy is still not pursuing getting that valuable veteran talent to accommodate the likes of Davis, Gee, Neise, Harvey, Parnell, etc. – or the ones he just got from Toronto – and that is why his plan is full of holes.

Some would say he plan was full of sh*t instead.

“If by chance the kids do come through and turn into a contending club, then it would not be the result of any plan of action taken by Sandy — it would be the result of lucking out on a gamble of raw talent coming through”

Wow….not even willing to give them credit if it does work out. Just proves my point all along….there is NOTHING this FO can do that the naysayers will not criticize and redicule them for. Pure prejudice when the criticism is based soley on WHO’S making the moves, rather than doing a true assessment of each and every move and then drawing a conclusion based on whether you feel it wuyold help the club.

It has now been taken to another level……even in the face of success, it would just be luck and not the “plan”. That speaks volumes.

Thats pretty deep…..just SMH

This is the only way to develop an organization for long term success. Look at the record over the last 30 years. Those who believe in spending money without any foundation find the crash is not too far behind. Sadly, few seem to learn from history.

I know you mourn the loss of Omar and the sensational signings that he made. Alderson had to dump Bay, one of Omar’s prized catches.