I’m thrilled we kept Wright. But to me, this proves management has lied to us. If we have money for Wright, then didnt we also have money for Reyes? Dont we have money for Dickey?

And ok, why not build a winner now?

In a way, I feel sorry for David.

By 2016, he’ll ask to be traded so he can get out of NY and play for a winner

Cause I have asked you twice to name a better one and you keep refusing!

If Wright sucks then so too does Reyes…
He is the same, all those things apply yo Reyes as much as Wright.

Overpaid
Sucks in the 2nd Half
Isn’t a leader

All of it applies to reyes as well!

So I guess you agree he wasn’t worth keeping either?

Sorry Coach is not available we are sticking you in the baggage compartment.

So you agree that David was…

overpaid…

sucks in the 2nd half

treated much differently than Mr. Dreadlocks

but it was the right move just because

ok !

put me in coach !!!

Hey Ike Davis…u wanna swing at the 1st pitch and hit HR’s !!?!!?

We’ll spread a nasty rumor about you ASAP….

either take that 1st pitch or else

1 -He’s not a real leader in the sense a Carter or Hernandez were but he is at least as much a leader as a Jeter is. Not confrontational, not a PUSHY guy just someone who will stay out of it until someone comes to him…and I’m fine with that the solution is to find a better leader not get rid of a performer for his lack of leadership personality

2 – he can’t carry a team – I just feel no one should have to, better to build a team that doesn’t need carrying so years like 2009 can be avoided.

3 – He’s probably not worth 18M but then again what player REALLY is worth that kind of money when you get right down to it?

4 – He is likely to decline before the contract is up but thats the price you pay to get the years before the decline. Santana has done it and he gets paid far more for far less contribution than Wright, Does anyone really think Pujols or Longoria is going to be the same player at the end of thier contract too? Bottomline is you deal with players who don’t perform when they stop performing not while they stil are over a worry about something 4 or 5 years from now. Deal with it 4 or 5 years from now.

5 – Reyes and Wright were treated differently, I agree! I won’t speculate on the reasons for it but as I said somewhere else I thought of both as Equally worth having and the only difference was in they type of contributor they were. Reyes set the table and Wright would clear it. Clutch or not he drove in 100+ runs most of the time and thats all you can ask of any one player.

6 – Wright is not as good in the second half. Nope he isn’t but when the season is over the numbers are still there. I don’t care what he doesn’t do in the second half provided what he did in the first half is enough to make the numbers good at the end of the season.

SO while I can agree with some of your knocks on him they are not a reason (to me anyway) to purge the best player we have until such time as there is another player better than him.

As to some mentioning the problem with wasting Flores, until Flores plays his way onto the team I have no problems dealing with that when the time comes.
He wouldn’t be the first Kid to play a homegrown favorite off the roster and make the team trade him.
And as long as you know the kid is going to make the trade such that you lose nothing on the guy thats going and gain whatever it is you get back it’s a good move.

Because your not CREATING a hole to fill another. Not playing Whack a Mole.
Your replaceing and older X with a younger X gaining some years, losing no production and getting kids to fill those holes without creating one.

THATS how you trade good players to fill holes when they dont’t make one in the proccess.

And while there are still scrubs that need replacing we should be less concerned about how much we pay for NON-SCRUBS or thier ability to make us winners and focus on replacing the Scrubs a good players can’t make up for.

Agree with that too and maybe Sandy still does have the inability to fully understand and appreciate the New York fan base and the bonding between them and certain players changed after last year. It was probably the WIlpons who recognized the long-term “financial” damage caused when they both told Jose to walk (don’t forget Fred’s quote about Jose thinking he was worth Carl Crawford money) for I think Sandy would stlll play things safe and look in terms of a more immediate stability instead of more investment in a future that is always too unpredictable.

Can still not forget the squabble over that approximate $40,000 slot money that led to us losing one of our two second round draft picks (number 75 overall), signing less draft picks than any othe club but Pittsburgh (saving their money for Rusell perhaps?) and dropping the St. Lucie team for one year. Cutting back on our investments even connected with his “vision” of re-buildng the franchise appears as if it is bottom line thinking for the current fiscal year than it is long-term growth and the chance for better financial prosperity.

If it is that Sandy still has theautomony to call the shots over the head of his bosses (which they might have had to agree to in order for Sandy to come on-board and for them to still remain owners) and Bud Selig quietly interceeded on the WIlpons behalf with Sandy on this one? Just wondering.

yep because I have been saying all along that we need to keep our best players and unless you can name a player on our team better than Wright (Go ahead) he should be kept because thats how you build a winning team. Keep the best players, replace the scrubs.

I have been consistent on this sentiment all along and it was for the same reasons why I was on the side of keeping Reyes as well!

“I thought the idea is retire a met no??”
Thats Wrights idea I personally don’t care who retires as who…

As I have said all along what you pay wright should not stop you from spending later on.
I don’t care how much they pay for players because:
1) the MLB does not limit how much a team can spend it only limits the number of roster spots and that means you have to get the best guys you can to fill those limited roster spots
2) it’s not MY money it’s Wilpons and I personally don’t care how much they have to pay to give me good baseball!

The Yankees are not some SPECIAL CASE that is given special permission to spend 200Mil to build a 20 year winner, the only reason why the Yankees can spend that much is because they play in the same market we do which means we could just as easily spend as much as they do to build a 20 year winner as well!

And once Wright is usurped as the BEST player on the tyeam I have no problems trading him away if that is what gets us the next guy who is the face, the leader, the performer, the BEST PLAYER on the team!

I have asked you and Bayonne and all the other guys against Wright exactly why would you be more concerned with getting rid of the BEST player on the team?

Why when there are Ramirez’ and Torres’, Tholes, and Bays on the roster?

Shouldn’t we get rid of them first?

In the end even if Wright turns out to be not worth his salary the 17.4 Mil wasted every year is not as wasted as the 20 Mil we wind up paying all the scrubs around him.
And as I said what we pay Wright should not limit what they can spend…
Because there is no Salary cap here to limit you.
Yankees spend a ton and you don’t see them renting out Mr Met for 20 Mil a pop or taking loans from Selig who insists they hire a small market GM to ruin the team.

They make money and we could too!
And once there are that many stars to produce for us I have no issue with Trading Wright away for the next best player or kids.

it’s a fair market value for what Wright does and if your unsure of that look at what guys like Werth and Crawford make to compare”
Really?? That’s your comeback metsie.. ?

Even if Wright declines in later years you can always trade him to someone to use as a DH or 3B and get out from under his contract.”
I thought the idea is retire a met no?? Now you’re talking about trading him?? Don’t get it

it’s a fair market value for what Wright does and if your unsure of that look at what guys like Werth and Crawford make to compare.

Even if Wright declines in later years you can always trade him to someone to use as a DH or 3B and get out from under his contract.

Time to start worrying about all the guys around him that made people think Wright wasn’t worth having due to the fact he couldn’t carry those guys we bought off the $#!T pile to put around him.

I don’t think Sandy wanted to pay this much and the Wilpons who always seem to err on the side of Public Relations over Baseball and Business concerns decided they could not take the hit of letting Wright go after the letting go of Reyes.

They could never recover from that until they won a WS which wasn’t going to happen for another half a decade.

This deal is as much about saving the Wilpons as all the others.
Lucky for us that goal finally aligned with keeping the best player where before it was determined letting the best players go was best for the team.

I don’t agree with the former but at least they have finally kept the best player on the team from one year to the next.

“I’m not an ideologue.” – Sandy Alderson 12/13/2010 ( On Mike’d Up 660AM WFAN)

ideologue: a person who zealously advocates an ideology.

ideology: the body of doctrine, myth, belief, etc., that guides an individual, social movement, institution, class, or large group.

http://nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d0/dW/dD/dA/dH/WDAH_3.MP3

Have to disagree with you on that point. I think the Met fan is just as loyal and supportive as the Cub fan, even in losing seasons.

We might have still even drawn better if we only felt that like in the past ownership was making sincere efforts (no matter how they might have worked out) to improve the team so it now also a matter of integrity. That, and the fact that since 2009 they have shown little regard for the average fan base and have been trying to fleece them for reasons too lengthy to repeat once again.

The Cubs finished tenth in the league in attendance this past season. The Cubs are also the second highest ticket in the league and our heartache has been nothing compared to the what the cub fan has had to endure.

Jonothan Eig, a season ticket holder for twelve years, wrote on his website:

“Last season’s team was painful to watch—or more painful than usual, I should say—and tickets were almost impossible to unload.”

And then he added:

“But the Cubs are not going to make the playoffs next year. While I wait for them to improve, I can buy tickets on StubHub at huge discounts—sometimes for less than a buck, if last season is any indication. And with the money I save I’ll be able to pay whatever it takes to get a ticket to the 2047 World Series.”

Now doesn’t that sound exactly what Met fans are saying?

I don’t agree with this signing and direction of the team, but it is what it is. Let’s hope for the best. It looks like Niese or Dickey will be gone by this time next week. Obviously it depends on what they bring back in trade, but losing one of those is a loss I’m not sure the 2013 Mets can overcome.

Joe D., I just honestly feel like this isn’t something that should happen on any site trying to maintain any form of professionalism. I’ve been visiting this site for a long time, and it has been steadily going downhill at no fault of the site owner (you I assume).