Pagan had a few less HR’s, ALOT more doubles, ALOT more triples

Ross benefited from a park that plays well for right handed hitters

How is that any different from Justin Upton?

Pagan in SF >>>>> Cody Ross in SF

Pagan >>>> Cody Ross

Again…none of these players are coming here…but its still fun to rub it in…

hence pagan leading the league in triples, which is were a lot of his slugging came from.

So I guess that means in this one sense, we’ve caught up to the Bronx Bombers.

In SF, Pagan made the same amount of mistakes, they just dont cry and moan about it the way we do

In 7 years Davis has accumulated a 5.0 in oWar, Pagan LAST YEAR had a oWar over 4

These anti-los-mets folks would recommend ANYONE not south of Miami or with a latino sounding name

Ross had 22 HR this season, 13 coming at Fenway, all 13 were pulled over the LF green monster.

The distance on many of those HR would equal flyball outs in Citifield

the fact that aside from the occasional HR, he provides no speed and is ok at best on defense

here is an article on how Fenway Park traditionally helps right handed pull hitters …aka Cody Ross improve their numbers

http://www.baseball-statistics.com/Ballparks/Bos/index.htm#dimensions

now factor in that Pagan had an offensive WAR almost DOUBLE CODY ROSS in a MUCH HARDER PARK TO HIT IN and you can see why Pagan is a better bet to continue his offensive prowess

Cody Ross hit 14 HR in the 2 previous seasons before he went to Fenway, its more likely he hits 14 if he comes to Citifield

Pagan would also likely hit 15 but offer much more in total offensive capability.

Sorry bud…i hate to burst ur bubble…

but Pagan >>> Ross + Ludwick

Of course this means NOTHING since all 3 players will be employed by other teams

I just like to rub in the fact that…

Pagan >>> Ross + Ludwick

Angel is more of a number 2 hitter or 6 hitter. Those are guys you want to be able to handle the bat, be versatile, and when he’s in the 6 spot he becomes more of a run producer. No need for him to get a walk in the 6th spot unless you have 7 & 8 hitters you can count on to bring him on. Another case where a person uses OBP in description of a player when that part of his game is the LEAST thing you’re gonna pay him millions of dollars for.

Cody Ross – 2010 – 14 HR
Cody Ross – 2011 – 14 HR
Cody Ross – 2012 – 22 HR

Cody’s offensive oWar in 2012 was 1.9
Pagan’s offensive oWar in 2012 was 4.5

Pagan had MORE doubles, more triples, more SB, more TB, and played in a pitchers park….played in a division FULL of pitchers parks..

Cody’s Total War in 2012 was 1.6
Pagan’s Total War in 2012 was 4.0

MORE THAN DOUBLE

But I’m the one thats full of it

Would you like me to further embarras you ?

Oh, he is only 9 months older than pagan, so if Davis is too old for you, don’t go multi years on Davis!

Ross has no power? Over the last 4 years he has averaged 19 HR and 72 RBI
Over the last 4 years Pagan has averaged 8 HR and 53 RBI.

where do you get off saying Ross has no power but Pagan has power?

Ludwick who you say has “some power” has averaged 23HR and 87 RBI over the last 4 year

You’re so full of it.

He’s two years older than Pagan and not even close to him offensively. Plus he is in his walk year and just a rental.

The Jays moved him officially to left field because he was a liability in center, and his .965 FP was among the worst in the AL for left fielders.

His UZR last three years is -5.4, -6.9, -8.5. Imagine that in Citi Field plus no arm?

He does not do exactly what Pagan does, actually he is in fact worse in every aspect of his game except perhaps speed, but he’s a terrible base stealer and led league in caught stealing.

He does exactly what Pagan would do yet he’s faster and probably wouldn’t cost a big prospect or anything since Toronto’s OF is a little crowded now.

Pagan had a pretty nice year, and hit a lot of triples, but I would not go crazy and treat him like Beltran in his prime

if anyone has a problem sucking their pride its the wilpons

i like Sandy as a COO of the team, someone who regulates the finances and legal stuff, does all the talking to the public….

but I like a guy like Omar as the GM

if they could ever manage a Sandy + Omar tandem, I think they would’ve complimented each other really well here.

the giants and rangers are also reportedly offering pagan 3-4 year deals

ludwick declined his option, wants a 3 year deal, but cin is only offering 2 years

the red sox are pursuing ross and swisher

if the mets are going to look for lightning in a bottle, i would rather they trade Ike Davis for profur or Andrus from texas and then trade some filler for lars anderson, let Murphy, Duda and Anderson duke it out for the 1B spot

Lars Anderson was a top 50 prospect in baseball 2 years ago who was blocked on the MLB level by the red sox constant high price players

he is only 25 years old, has less than 1 year of MLB service