Thats proof that Sandy had no price that he was willing to pay Reyes.

As for Reyes’ agent screwed up? Well his client got everything he wanted…a contract in exccess of 100 Mil and he can easily ask for the Blue Jays to trade him if he wants!

THIS! ^^^

This article went to hell in a handbasket awfully quick.

For instance – “orgasm” over Craig Kimbrel – wow that’s not too much of an exaggeration. It NEVER happened, despite you repeating those types of descriptions over and over. He gave the guy his due, Kimbrel is very good, currently one of the best in the MLB for what he does. FACT.

Also, anything said about Reyes is not hatred, but just a report of what’s going on, but you take who is saying it and he’s killing him.

“Reyes was nothing but a good citizen in NY, play hard, play through injuries and because he took the money from a team that actually offered him some he gets blasted here by most of you”

Another thing he was NEVER blasted for taking the money, in fact, most commentators here said they don’t blame him, who wouldn’t take the most money for their job, so that’s just another one of your twisted lies to perpetuate the Us Vs Them you want on this site.

Funny, for the things you just said about Reyes, fits Wright too, but yet you kill him at every turn, and fact in another thread you just called him greedy. Did Reyes play a month with a fractured back? No, but if you bring that up, you scream “EXCUSES FOR DW FROM HIS LOVERS”. You are so predictable . Double standard AGAIN?

Forgot about the Toronto Argonauts.

I think the way the two turfs appear color wise might be what could throw one off. So the ball bounces, etc. more naturally than the original turf in what I still will call “Sky Dome”?

I’m not too sure if the turf in Toronto is like the softer one in Tampa Bay which plays more like a natural turf as far as the bounces and speed. Jose will have the advantage of all hitters with balls getting by the infielders quicker. Since infielders have to also play back a bit further since the ball comes to them so fast (and limits the amount of time they have to go to their right or left) I agree that Jose might have the slight advantage of balls hit to short for that then means a longer throw due to playing back further – or more balls getting by due to the infielders having to play in further to guard against the bunt.

Jose just has to be sure not to hit grounders directly at the fielders.

I wonder if Toronto can replace the astro turf if the dome can be kept open enough a certain part of the spring and summer. Or at least, why they don’t make it more like they have in Tampa Bay. Don’t know which I despise more – astro turf or the designated hitter.

Hope your sister is doing better.

Again you’re wrong. You don’t even know me. Do you know where any of my family comes from? At all? Of course not.

You’re CHOOSING to inject your own views into what I say. If I come out and say ignorant stuff regarding KRod’s background, slam me. But if I don’t then you have no right to attach it. None.

You’re making a choice to ignore my BASEBALL opinion and spin it in a way that allows you to paint a different picture.

You’re implying that baseball GM’s around the league couldn’t understand that Francisco Rodriguez was traded to a team with a closer and that’s why he didn’t close for 30 something games. You’re implying that baseball GM’s knew that guys like Broxton, Nathan could close for them despite their injuries stopping them in years prior but they were unsure about KRod because he was a setup man for 30 games.

“When the Brewers tendered him Boras knew that it was more than he would get anywhere else on a one year deal so he took it.”

- Francisco Rodriguez was a free agent for over a month before accepting arbitration. He took it because he wasn’t offered a closers role anywhere else. A 1 year deal worth $4m to be a closer is worth more to KRod’s future than an arbitration agreement to be a setup man.

“Of course nobody wanted him as a closer after the horrid numbers he put up pitching in non-save situations” “You know exactly why K-Rod’s value plummeted, and it was all because he only thrived in save situations in his entire career.”

- So then why didn’t KC, CIN, TX want him as their closer? And what horrid numbers? Francisco Rodriguez in 29 innings had an ERA of 1.86 for Milwaukee with 33K. What world are you living in that those numbers scream to GM’s as “horrid numbers and he can’t close games.”

You’re accusing me of making stuff up but you don’t even know how he performed as the setup man. You’re sole purpose was to bring a topic into this discussion and you don’t even know that KRod had an excellent 2011 with Milwaukee.

You know nothing about me, where I come from, where my family comes from yet you CHOOSE to interject ethnicity into a topic about a closer and then to prove your point you bring up FALSE statements about his performance.

Here are the facts:
Francisco Rodriguez was a closer with the Mets
He was traded to a team that was happy with their closer
He performed VERY well in his setup role
He hit the open market with at least 6 teams in need of a closer.
A month into his free agency: Papelbon, Broxton, Nathan, Bell all were signed.
He accepted arbitration after a month of trying to get a job as a closer.

Why didn’t he get a job? Your answer is that the “horrid numbers he put up pitching in non-save situations” yet reality proves he pitched very well in 31 games for Milwaukee.

My answer is that he wanted too much money when teams aren’t willing to help closers get rich quick, and he was more concerned with $ rather than his role. My answer is that teams were likely concerned with some character flaws that reared their head after KRod got arrested inside his teams clubhouse.

If he wanted to be a closer so bad, he could have taken a 1 year deal and a paycut to close for somebody to “prove” himself – but he didn’t and just yesterday, Francisco Rodriguez pleaded not guilty to a disorderly conduct charge in which he is being accused of hitting a woman in the head, and then grabbing her by the hair and throwing her down to the ground.

None of that, and I mean none of it has to do with where your family, my family or his family comes from.

That’s the context of my reply. It’s about Francisco Rodriguez, his baseball stats and his 2nd arrest in 2 years. If you want to make it about something else – that is YOU bringing it into a conversation where it doesn’t belong.

bwahahahahahahahahaha

so new hitting coach had nothing to do with that?

no thyroid condition had nothing to do with that?

no hamstring injury had nothing to do with that?

nope, Reyes just figured he would turn on the after-burners and start “trying” again

he was just coasting on talent all those years…

o yeah, guess what Mr. Lazy guy is doing this off-season….

TRAINING the NEW YORK METS SS Ruben Tejada

there is a difference between a team being in a pennant race and needing a closer vs the off-season with 12 different options to choose from and no pennant race occuring for 8 months…

you do know the concept of leverage right ?

So, you do it just for fun?

in 2009

when Reyes, Beltran, Delgado, Santana, Wagner all missed most of the season

gotcha

or was it b/c the wilpons wanted to rip up beltrans contract for getting knee surgery…

maybe it was b/c of the Walter Reed hospital incident….

no wait…you wanted to can him because he didnt put an apostrophe in his annual letter to the fans

please…

I contend that his 2012 season in Florida is the best we are going to see from Jose for the rest of his career as he can no longer look to be quite as aggressive on the base paths It’s not that he isn’t going to be productive but more that he will need to be a lot more careful to avoid injury. Jose’s gift has been his thoroughbred legs and as he ages they will become even more brittle.

No doubt that Jose’e agent was looking to squeeze the Mets and that Sandy underestimated that squeeze. A mid season trading of Jose would not bring back equal talent unless a sign and trade deal was orchestrated first but no team jumped at the idea. We ended up getting nothing for him except salary relief and as it turned out Tejada played well in 2012. and still has a higher ceiling to attain.

The other good part is that Jose can still excite Met fans by torturing the Yankees when they play the Blue Jays.

LOL

The Castillo and Perez contracts cancel out the difference. If the payroll was more due to their two contracts then the amount coming off the books would then have to also be increased by that same total creating a zero difference. They cannot be added if not also deducted when it comes to doing the math.

Also, you are not accounting for the increased salaries from returning players that also make up that 2012 payroll. Taking that into account comes up with having just $ 6,673,000 to work with, not enough to cover the $11 million combined free agency signings. Meaning, the Mets still had to come up with an additional $4.327 million.

One of us would have to do a fact check, comparing the total amount paid to all the other players for each year to see if the remaining sum for 2012 actually comes out in the neighborhood of approximately $4.327 million less than that for 2011. In any event, the payroll would have to be about $11 million or so higher in order to show that the money saved from Reyes was re-invested into tit.