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		<title>By: Just_Da_Damaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just_Da_Damaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 06:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People talk all the junk they want about the Marlins and their 30 mil payroll

In 2013, the mets are committed to 54 mil

In 2014, the mets are committed to 13 mil

I have been bringing this fact up on Metsblog for 3 years when i mentioned the fact that they should start locking up Wright and Reyes.

Met fans were saying that Reyes would be an albatross

well Reyes in 2014, would bump up our payroll to 26 mil. Add Wright&#039;s 18 mil salary and you got a whopping 54 mil salary...

We could&#039;ve had 2 franchise type players stay in the org for the bulk of their careers together and STILL had a payroll WELL under 90 mil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People talk all the junk they want about the Marlins and their 30 mil payroll</p>
<p>In 2013, the mets are committed to 54 mil</p>
<p>In 2014, the mets are committed to 13 mil</p>
<p>I have been bringing this fact up on Metsblog for 3 years when i mentioned the fact that they should start locking up Wright and Reyes.</p>
<p>Met fans were saying that Reyes would be an albatross</p>
<p>well Reyes in 2014, would bump up our payroll to 26 mil. Add Wright&#8217;s 18 mil salary and you got a whopping 54 mil salary&#8230;</p>
<p>We could&#8217;ve had 2 franchise type players stay in the org for the bulk of their careers together and STILL had a payroll WELL under 90 mil</p>
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		<title>By: Alex in CT</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/selig-should-void-the-trade.html#comment-305132</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex in CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 06:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No way Selig vetoes this deal, no chance. He&#039;s not a commissioner, just a representative for the owners and it&#039;s their best interest he preserves, not the game&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way Selig vetoes this deal, no chance. He&#8217;s not a commissioner, just a representative for the owners and it&#8217;s their best interest he preserves, not the game&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: scottr in vegas</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/selig-should-void-the-trade.html#comment-305085</link>
		<dc:creator>scottr in vegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 02:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate to say it, but for most of this article ( not all) , you can replace marlins with mets, and loria with wilpon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to say it, but for most of this article ( not all) , you can replace marlins with mets, and loria with wilpon</p>
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		<title>By: jessep</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right. The players don&#039;t want a salary floor at all because it minimizes how much money they can make. 

The teams like KC etc want a salary cap but teams like NYY respond with &quot;if you tell us what to spend then you need to spend X&quot; 

It&#039;s never gonna happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. The players don&#8217;t want a salary floor at all because it minimizes how much money they can make. </p>
<p>The teams like KC etc want a salary cap but teams like NYY respond with &#8220;if you tell us what to spend then you need to spend X&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s never gonna happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Players union doesn&#039;t want any salary structure at all. A payroll floor is one step for a salary cap in their eyes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Players union doesn&#8217;t want any salary structure at all. A payroll floor is one step for a salary cap in their eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: hotstreak</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/selig-should-void-the-trade.html#comment-305039</link>
		<dc:creator>hotstreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am reposting my original post from &quot;Not so Fast...... thread from Ho Jo&#039;s Mojo


What is the Marlins payroll down to 30 something million. I do not understand why they don’t have a minimum baseball payroll amount or a floor. Lets for illustration purposes isay the floor is 70 M. The hard cap should be 2 1/2 the minimum or 175 M. The owners who can’t afford the minimum would have to sell. In addtion the problem of leverage should be addressed. Current Assets minus Current Liab must be 1.5 to 1. All long term bonds must be funded in a bond sinking fund. Total Assets minus Total Liabilities (debt ratio) must be a maximumd .5 to total assets or lower. All multiplayer transactions that can be construed as a “fire sale” must be submitted to the Commissioners office in advance for approval. Tax payers who approve a stadium funding should be able to publically submit a lawsuit to block any kind of the salary dump or sue the owner for his personal assets. The owner can try to justify the accusation by presenting the return player/prospects he recived. If the commisioner feels not enough he can select a list of players such as in PTBNL that the team with the undue advantage has to relinguish.
 
Any owner who can’t meet these ratios and minimum payroll as I suggest be mandated should be forced to sell regardless what the commisioner wants to do. Its like a mandatory jail sentence out of the judges hands.
 
This is called leveling the playing field figuratively and literally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reposting my original post from &#8220;Not so Fast&#8230;&#8230; thread from Ho Jo&#8217;s Mojo</p>
<p>What is the Marlins payroll down to 30 something million. I do not understand why they don’t have a minimum baseball payroll amount or a floor. Lets for illustration purposes isay the floor is 70 M. The hard cap should be 2 1/2 the minimum or 175 M. The owners who can’t afford the minimum would have to sell. In addtion the problem of leverage should be addressed. Current Assets minus Current Liab must be 1.5 to 1. All long term bonds must be funded in a bond sinking fund. Total Assets minus Total Liabilities (debt ratio) must be a maximumd .5 to total assets or lower. All multiplayer transactions that can be construed as a “fire sale” must be submitted to the Commissioners office in advance for approval. Tax payers who approve a stadium funding should be able to publically submit a lawsuit to block any kind of the salary dump or sue the owner for his personal assets. The owner can try to justify the accusation by presenting the return player/prospects he recived. If the commisioner feels not enough he can select a list of players such as in PTBNL that the team with the undue advantage has to relinguish.</p>
<p>Any owner who can’t meet these ratios and minimum payroll as I suggest be mandated should be forced to sell regardless what the commisioner wants to do. Its like a mandatory jail sentence out of the judges hands.</p>
<p>This is called leveling the playing field figuratively and literally.</p>
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		<title>By: Even Flow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Even Flow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It took backbone and decisive, immediate thinking and action, and that’s what Selig must do now&quot;

Problem is, Selig lacks a backbone. Immediate thinking and action with Selig? Don&#039;t make me laugh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It took backbone and decisive, immediate thinking and action, and that’s what Selig must do now&#8221;</p>
<p>Problem is, Selig lacks a backbone. Immediate thinking and action with Selig? Don&#8217;t make me laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/selig-should-void-the-trade.html#comment-305017</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haaaaaa. That brought me joy MM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haaaaaa. That brought me joy MM.</p>
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		<title>By: Met Maniac</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/selig-should-void-the-trade.html#comment-304975</link>
		<dc:creator>Met Maniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You keep telling yourself that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You keep telling yourself that.</p>
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		<title>By: taskmaster4450</title>
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		<dc:creator>taskmaster4450</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who knows....maybe Toronto unknowingly sent the Marlins a future hall of famer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who knows&#8230;.maybe Toronto unknowingly sent the Marlins a future hall of famer.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/selig-should-void-the-trade.html#comment-304947</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[... and to add to that, Toronto just signed Milkey Cabrera to a two year deal.   Would they have done that if the prior trade was not made?  There is a domino effect here in more ways than one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and to add to that, Toronto just signed Milkey Cabrera to a two year deal.   Would they have done that if the prior trade was not made?  There is a domino effect here in more ways than one.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Oakland fire sale came during the middle of the season before free agency was to go into effect and Finley thus sold Rudi and Blue to two teams contending for the AL East title, knowing they were going to leave.  Before free agency such mid-season dealings were common (with the Yankees often puchasing players from other clubs down the stretch because they had the money to do so that other clubs didn&#039;t).   But because this was to thwart off losses due to upcoming free agency - and that circumstance not having any precedent - I guess Kuhn stepped in (Finlay not getting along with Kuhn and most of his fellow owners probably came into play as well).  

Today we see these type of transactions done all the time.  

Regarding the Marlin-Blue Jay trade, there is little Selig can do, especially since it involves players from both teams.   It would also create a very bad predicent for this would enable any commissioner to use his own judgement on who could be traded for who.   For example, could have Oakland traded their ace Geo Gonzalez for prospects last winter been voided, considering Billy Beane had been sending off good players for prospects for many a winter due to upcoming arbitration eligibility?   

It just opens up a can of worms, then putting pressure on the commissiner to make such move again when such a deal causes public uproar.

And even if he could, it would be hypocritical for him to say he was doing it for &quot;the best interest in baseball:&quot; when he allowed his friends in New York whose team was in a post-season race got rid of their best players due to the Madoff scandal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Oakland fire sale came during the middle of the season before free agency was to go into effect and Finley thus sold Rudi and Blue to two teams contending for the AL East title, knowing they were going to leave.  Before free agency such mid-season dealings were common (with the Yankees often puchasing players from other clubs down the stretch because they had the money to do so that other clubs didn&#8217;t).   But because this was to thwart off losses due to upcoming free agency &#8211; and that circumstance not having any precedent &#8211; I guess Kuhn stepped in (Finlay not getting along with Kuhn and most of his fellow owners probably came into play as well).  </p>
<p>Today we see these type of transactions done all the time.  </p>
<p>Regarding the Marlin-Blue Jay trade, there is little Selig can do, especially since it involves players from both teams.   It would also create a very bad predicent for this would enable any commissioner to use his own judgement on who could be traded for who.   For example, could have Oakland traded their ace Geo Gonzalez for prospects last winter been voided, considering Billy Beane had been sending off good players for prospects for many a winter due to upcoming arbitration eligibility?   </p>
<p>It just opens up a can of worms, then putting pressure on the commissiner to make such move again when such a deal causes public uproar.</p>
<p>And even if he could, it would be hypocritical for him to say he was doing it for &#8220;the best interest in baseball:&#8221; when he allowed his friends in New York whose team was in a post-season race got rid of their best players due to the Madoff scandal.</p>
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		<title>By: taskmaster4450</title>
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		<dc:creator>taskmaster4450</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Selig needs to stay out.  If the citizens of Miami are upset, then blame your politicians.  They were the ones who authorized city funds for the construction of the stadium.  Loria is a snake.  That is no secret.  Fans have the choice to support a team or not.  They were mighty as happy when Loria was signing all those FAs last winter.  Yet there attendance was still terrible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selig needs to stay out.  If the citizens of Miami are upset, then blame your politicians.  They were the ones who authorized city funds for the construction of the stadium.  Loria is a snake.  That is no secret.  Fans have the choice to support a team or not.  They were mighty as happy when Loria was signing all those FAs last winter.  Yet there attendance was still terrible.</p>
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		<title>By: taskmaster4450</title>
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		<dc:creator>taskmaster4450</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They would still be there since they had the 7th lowest payroll in 2011.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They would still be there since they had the 7th lowest payroll in 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/selig-should-void-the-trade.html#comment-304929</link>
		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its true. the more you use a nebulous power like &quot;In the Best Interest of Baseball&quot; the easier it is to use it again and again. It should be a nuclear option, not a panacea.

Then, we&#039;ll have even more back room dealing and politicking than we do now and trades will be less and less about benefiting the teams involved and more about TV ratings and such.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its true. the more you use a nebulous power like &#8220;In the Best Interest of Baseball&#8221; the easier it is to use it again and again. It should be a nuclear option, not a panacea.</p>
<p>Then, we&#8217;ll have even more back room dealing and politicking than we do now and trades will be less and less about benefiting the teams involved and more about TV ratings and such.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know we keep bringing up the Miami Fans who have never been and never will be Baseball folks!

Florida has always been a Football State and due to high proportion of the transplants that live there it is difficult for any team to draw due to the lack of a HOMETOWN identity there.

Even the Miami Dolphins have problems selling out thier games and it&#039;s typical to see as many opposing team jerseys as Home team in the stands.

Because all the folks who moved there were already fans of some other team and won&#039;t switch thier loyalties based on where thier house is currently located.

The only mistake was giving Florida a baseball franchise in the first place!

Then they gave them another who has drawn 2.5 Mil only in the first year of thier existence and once the novelty was over has never drawn more than 1.87M since and they had to make it to the WS just to get that!

Marlins drew 2.2 Mil last year thanks to the novelty of a new park.
Thats a lot for Florida but when you realize that WE drew 2.24M in a year everyone was says is down for attendance you get the picture of just how wrong it was to award them a baseball franchise down in Florida.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know we keep bringing up the Miami Fans who have never been and never will be Baseball folks!</p>
<p>Florida has always been a Football State and due to high proportion of the transplants that live there it is difficult for any team to draw due to the lack of a HOMETOWN identity there.</p>
<p>Even the Miami Dolphins have problems selling out thier games and it&#8217;s typical to see as many opposing team jerseys as Home team in the stands.</p>
<p>Because all the folks who moved there were already fans of some other team and won&#8217;t switch thier loyalties based on where thier house is currently located.</p>
<p>The only mistake was giving Florida a baseball franchise in the first place!</p>
<p>Then they gave them another who has drawn 2.5 Mil only in the first year of thier existence and once the novelty was over has never drawn more than 1.87M since and they had to make it to the WS just to get that!</p>
<p>Marlins drew 2.2 Mil last year thanks to the novelty of a new park.<br />
Thats a lot for Florida but when you realize that WE drew 2.24M in a year everyone was says is down for attendance you get the picture of just how wrong it was to award them a baseball franchise down in Florida.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting point in regards to &quot;C&quot;
Perhaps the revenue shares should be based on the last three years of spending and not just one.

Then teams would not be able to ust sell off and get some quick share cash and would have to struggle for a year or two until the average falls back to low spender levels.

If that was the rule the Marlins wouldn&#039;t be able to collect on revenue sharing until after next season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point in regards to &#8220;C&#8221;<br />
Perhaps the revenue shares should be based on the last three years of spending and not just one.</p>
<p>Then teams would not be able to ust sell off and get some quick share cash and would have to struggle for a year or two until the average falls back to low spender levels.</p>
<p>If that was the rule the Marlins wouldn&#8217;t be able to collect on revenue sharing until after next season.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real sin is that MLB allows Loria to be a team owner to begin with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real sin is that MLB allows Loria to be a team owner to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Selig is just making noise.  He&#039;s not going to veto this trade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selig is just making noise.  He&#8217;s not going to veto this trade.</p>
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		<title>By: Markcomic1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markcomic1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also yay the mets signed another scrub..
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/mets-sign-brian-bixler.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&amp;utm_medium=facebook]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also yay the mets signed another scrub..<br />
<a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/mets-sign-brian-bixler.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=facebook" rel="nofollow">http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/mets-sign-brian-bixler.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=facebook</a></p>
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