Comments on: Pelfrey Says If Season Started January, He’d Be Able To Throw 100 Pitches

By: DrDooby

DrDooby — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 05:37:03 +0000

I didn´t state my opinion, just what it´d take to bring Pelfrey back.
Again, I don´t understand all the talk about non-tendering him and then bringing him back on a minor league deal.
You can rest assured that in a market where a finesse righty like Scott Baker, coming off the same surgery around the same time, gets a 5.5 million $ guaranteed deal with incentives, someone will give Pelfrey a guaranteed 3+ million $ for 2013, plus incentives to at least double that total. Especially with Boras as the agent.

Out of the limelight in New York, a better defense behind him, Pelfrey still could emerge as a workhorse # 3 caliber SP elsewhere. Just probably not with the Mets.

P.S. Signing Wright to an extension certainly makes a lot more sense than bringing back Pelfrey for 6+ million in 2013, all things considered.

By: LongTimeFan

LongTimeFan — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 03:27:32 +0000

I think it’s mistake to get rid of Pelfrey who found himself in spring training and 4 starts by changing to windup. Unfortunately, he got hurt. I think Mets should keep him and try to trade Gee in a package for a right hand hitting outfielder.

By: MetsWatchman

MetsWatchman — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:36:24 +0000

“If the Mets want to keep him, offer him arbitration – even if that means he’ll make 5 to 7 million in 2013″.

That would be just about the most stupid thing they could do other than giving Wright a contract in excess of $100mil and 6+ years.

By: MetsWatchman

MetsWatchman — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:31:54 +0000

“What players are projected to be free-agents in 2013…2014…2015?

Most of them will be in their late 20′s / early 30′s…”

Isn’t that the range in age of free agents every year since the inception of free agency?

Nothing new there.

By: This is stupid

This is stupid — Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:28:46 +0000

Probably trying to drive up his price tag. Too bad teams can just go to fangraphs and look at how lousy he’s been.

By: Matt M

Matt M — Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:47:05 +0000

Eff Mike Pelfrey. They’d be 100 meatballs. Tell Scott Boras to stop giving you talking points, Pelf. We aren’t buying.

By: Russell Zanca

Russell Zanca — Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:43:11 +0000

Unless Pelfrey’s surgery involved receiving a bionic arm, it’s time to trade him for the next Mr. Hicks.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:37:52 +0000

Hey in Pelfrey’s defense he didn’t say any of those 100 Pitches would actually be strikes so we should take him on his word here….

By: Sloatsburg Mets Fan

Sloatsburg Mets Fan — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 00:46:43 +0000

If done correctly it could one of those low risk high reward signings that Omar was pretty good at, until he fell in love with the player of course.

By: srt

srt — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 23:13:06 +0000

Just to play devil’s advocate….

I’m assuming you’re going with a rotation to start the year of:
Dickey
Niese
Johan
Harvey
Gee

What if Johan’s arm doesn’t make it out of July?
What if Gee’s surgically repaired arm leads to regression?
What if Dickey is traded?
What if Harvey or Niese have an injury?

You can’t have enough pitching.

By: Joey D.

Joey D. — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:25:35 +0000

Hi Metsie,

I agree with you too – Pelfrey would probably perform much better being out of New York and a different organization.

Many don’t realize that poor coaching can hamper one’s performance as well as one’s limited talent. We saw this with Ike Davis this past year when Terry Collins told him to forgo the Sandy Alderson/Dave Hutchins forced style of hitting and to go back doing what was comfortable and successful for him in the past.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:51:49 +0000

Metsie, I couldn’t agree more about Pelfrey. A couple years ago I was clamoring for management to hire Pelfrey an individual pitching coach. Someone who would pay attention to him and him alone and help to develop the deficiencies in his game. He is a head scratcher and one that should have been traded years ago I suppose. Maybe just maybe the organization can learn from Pelfrey’s failing and do a more complete job at development.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:43:40 +0000

The question you need to ask yourself is Pelfrey’s issues really about where he plays as opposed to how good he is?

Would he do better away from the NY pressure cooker?

Splits seem to suggest no and when you look at the details what really kills Pelfrey away is the HR ball.

27 HRs allowed at home in 83 games 2186 PA
43 HRs allowed away in 70 games 1745 PA

and it shows in his ERA.

He needs a good Pitching coach that can teach him how to pitch in a hitter’s park. And by pitchng most of his games there he will get better in those Pitcher’s park as a result.

He’s not a bad pitcher he just is not a good one but he could become one of those guys who in a different venue finds himself and has you kicking yourself for letting him go.

He has the stuff to be great all his issues are in his head which is where a good pitching coach is needed.

I think they will pass on him and hope everyone else does too then give him a MiL contract.

No way they give him a qualifying offer though. Not until he proves he is healthy which isn’t going to happen in time.

By: holmer

holmer — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:18:43 +0000

Pelfrey has a good upside and is worth a gamble if we could get him at a reasonable price. He was pitching well before he went down last year and remember he would only be a stop-gap until some of the other pitching prospects are ready for prime time. If we catch lightning in a bottle and he pitches lights out there is another arm in the the system which will give the team more flexibility moving forward. Remember, you can never have enough arms!!!

By: Richard

Richard — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:12:01 +0000

Why would we bring back Mike Pelfrey? By the time he would’ve returned which is most likely any where from May-July, Wheeler will have already made his MLB debut, Pelfrey just can’t handle the pressure of NY, I think it’s best for the Mets,and for Pelfrey himself to just move on.

By: DrDooby

DrDooby — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:10:43 +0000

If Pelfrey is non tendered, he’s as good as gone.
RHP Scott Baker, a solid # 3 / 4 starter who had TJ surgery in late April just signed a 1-year, 5.5 million guaranteed deal, plus incentives.
Pelfrey should get at least 3.5 million with incentives.
But why with the Mets with 5 rotation spots seemingly set, plus Wheeler and maybe others knocking on the door ?
If Pelfrey becomes a Free Agent, he’ll sign somewhere with a Team that has a rotation opening and preferably a pitching friendly environment.

If the Mets want to keep him, offer him arbitration – even if that means he’ll make 5 to 7 million in 2013.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:18:10 +0000

LOL that is true he is our stopper.

By: Joey D.

Joey D. — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:14:43 +0000

No need for the Mets to offer Mike a minor league contract. Even though he is young enough to come back from such injury and at times has been a decent a starter why bother? We’ve already signed Wanel Mesa.

By: raysadecki

raysadecki — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:03:30 +0000

Why not? he has shown flashes of being a successful mlb pitcher. can never have too much pitching, especially if dickey is dealt away.

By: Just_Da_Damaja

Just_Da_Damaja — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:02:26 +0000

What players are projected to be free-agents in 2013…2014…2015?

Most of them will be in their late 20′s / early 30′s…

The premier ones will be commanding contracts that take them into their late 30′s and are risky

The bad ones arent worth signing

It sounds like we will be hoping for lighting in a bottle for the next 10 years