15
2012
No So Fast, Selig Places Marlins and Jays Trade Under Review
An article by Hojo's Mojo
Updated 11/15 1:00 PM
According to Bob Nightengale of USA Today, due to the outcry from Miami Marlins fans, Bud Selig is placing the blockbuster deal with the Blue Jays under review.
Shocking, but good to see somebody will look into Loria’s shenanigans in South Beach.
Updated 11/13 8:28 PM
The Miami Marlins and Toronto Blue Jays have completed a 10 player blockbuster deal on Tuesday night, according to multiple reports. The Blue Jays will get shortstop Jose Reyes, starting pitchers Josh Johnson and Mark Buehrle, catcher John Buck, and outfielder Emilio Bonifacio.
In return, the Marlins receive shortstop Yunel Escobar, infielder Adeiny Hechavarria, right-hander Henderson Alvarez, left-hander Justin Nicolino, outfielder Jake Marisnick, catcher Jeff Mathis, and right-hander Anthony DeSclafani.
Also as part of the deal, the Marlins will include $4 million dollars.
The trade is awaiting approval from the commissioner’s office, but is as good as done.
Moments after the news broke, Marlins outfielder Giancarlo Stanton tweeted:
This is a game changer for the Jays.
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I am curious to see if the Commissioner’s office has the balls to do anything about this.
This trade wrecks a franchise and what do they get back?
The Blue Jays 2nd best prospect and 8th best and what?
That’s a terrible, terrible trade by Miami. This franchise should be embarrassed. They don’t have a long enough history to keep fans coming back, after this being their what – 3rd time doing this?
This franchise is never going to attract a slew of free agents again, and the fans will never trust them.
‘That’s a terrible, terrible trade by Miami.’
It might turn out to be a terrible trade by Miami but it’s a great trade for Loria. Looks like he effectively traded off anyone who had any kind of guaranteed contract over a few million in just a half a season. Just how he always likes to do business – a payroll of under 50 MIL.
Between this move and how he duped the city of Miami and its taxpayers into paying for most of that shiny new stadium, he’s probably laughing his butt off all the way to the bank. If I were him and he shows up for any games at his home park, he might want to think about a bullet proof owner’s box.
Agreed but we aren’t supposed to talk about this, we should be slamming Sandy right now.
LOL
I don’t care how anyone spins this….there is no way the Wilpons, SA and the Mets could possibly be worse than Loria and his band of circus clowns.
But they were at least trying to win… Bhaaaaa, those that say that fell for it to. It never had anything to do with winning. It was all a farce.
Yes you should be because for the price of a one year discount on Reyes you could have traded him to get the OFer and Catcher you all seem to want so badly without having to lose Dickey or Wright!
GOOD POINT!!!!
No one will reply to this comment it makes too much sense lol
Yep they all hid behind the total contract but never bothered to realize that the Marlins had three years and ZERO no trade clause to deal with and trade reyes for something else.
First two years Reyes was giving a 1 MIl discount from his 2011 Salary!
third year he gets 16 Mil which is what Bay makes!
Only the last two years were at 20 Mil
This franchise is never going to attract a slew of free agents again, and the fans will never trust them.
WRONG.
They will attract big free agents just like their twin the Mets, they will overpay and the players will come.
I’ll prove it to you. Bet you Wright re-signs and gets paid more than Zimmerman.
“I’ll prove it to you. Bet you Wright re-signs and gets paid more than Zimmerman.”
What a revelation!
Selig doesn’t have a pair so I doubt anything will be done. It’s a travesty as a fan of the game but as a fan of the Mets it makes me grin. Who would ever want to play for Jeffrey Loria after this is beyond me.
And as much as we enjoyed watching Reyes over the years, part of me feels he had this coming as well. His eyes lit up with all the bs and pizazz Loria threw at him, preying on his desire to be swooned.
How’s that box of chocolates now?
You act like Jose spurned the Mets. The Mets never made an offer and Jose wanted to be here so it’s not his fault.
But you wuv your David Wright so it’s okay by you for the Mets instead of moving Wright and going forward instead are about to sink deeper into the abyss by offering 100+ million to a choker that flopped when it was his time to shine.
Slamming of DW in a thread about a Reyes trade – wow didn’t see that one coming………here we go…….
Is the only purpose for you to comment here only to point out when anyone mentions David Wright in a thread? Is there anything else you bring to the table?
he is the queen mother of those things, pathetic
The very day, actually at 12am midnight is when Loria dressed in a trenchcoat (cue the creepiness) met with Reyes to begin his swoon. His bull..it swoon that Reyes for whatever reason bought hook, line and sinker and said so in his Marlins presser so don’t give me the argument that the team didn’t do this or that. It didn’t matter. His mind was made. The glitter was tossed in the air, his ass was kissed and that’s all that mattered.
Give me a friggin break. Jose is a good player but no one ever accused him of having a sharp mind. We’ll never know what might have been and there’s no reason to try. The Mets would have made him an offer but the money and more importantly the years the Marlins offered were too high and too full of crap. Kind of like some people who comment on here.
“The Mets would have made him an offer”
Right…because Sandy telling Reyes that he wont make an offer until Reyes goes out on the market first….then telling Reyes that he wont be able to match Florida…had absolutely nothing to do with it
Reyes is better off in Toronto than David Wright is in NY
Right and I’m sure every agent that wants to save their clients money are saying that too. Move along. Move along. This is not the forum you were looking for.
“Jose is a good player but no one ever accused him of having a sharp mind.”
Reyes has a 105 million dollar contract
was he supposed to take less money to stay with the mets ?
if David Wright ever hits the free-agent market….do you think he is going to take LESS to stay here?
We’ll never know what might have been because Loria bedazzled Reyes the first night he was a free agent. Do you think the money/years he got from the Marlins was worth it? Look at the number Reyes put up this year. They were good but were they THAT good? If the Mets had Yankee money if the Mets never heard of Madoff if if if if if. The bottom line is they were gunshy giving Reyes that much money and they had their reasons. It sucks. As fans we ALL wanted Reyes here but it’s also a business.
Reyes in a down year produced over 20 mil worth of production according to fangraphs
he got paid 10 million.
played the entire year
And if he stays in NY, with Dave Hudgens as his batting instructor, he probably hits alot closer to his 2011 numbers…and Ruben Tejada is our 2B, so our defense up the middle is automatically better.
yeah i think he was well worth it. If I were David Wright, I wouldnt sign up to be the best player on a last place squad for the next 7 years…
if David Wright ever hits the free-agent market….do you think he is going to take LESS to stay here?
Classic Jeffrey Loria.
He should be forced out of baseball.
reyes is so good , he is already done in miami, lmfao
That was pathetic Angelo
As long as the marlins offer the most, 95% of the FA will sign there.
The problem, is going to be getting them to sign without a no trade clause; which they insist on. That’s why they cleverly backload deals. They give it a year and if it don’t work out…bye bye bye.
Toronto should be good if the pitching holds up. I’m happy for their fans who must be doing backflips right now….ah, I remember those days….the good old days.
$@:.@ing Wilpons
Now, flip Dickey for Gose and JP and another prospect. Tor goes all in, Mets get their CF & C…
The only reason Selig would be able to deny the trade is money. Which according to reports the Marlins will be supplying to balance, though not an extraordinary amount. Reports seem to think the Marlins are getting great value. However, the of hit of trading away these guys after a taxpayer funded stadium and disappointing season will be huge.
He has that nebulous “for the good of baseball” clause. I just don’t think he’ll use it against an owner.
Now that’s a fire!
Eddie Murphy right?
lol, yes.
Bhaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Bhaaaaaaaaa!!!
Well the circus has officially left Miami and left an empty tent.
I do in some ways feel sorry for Reyes but that be said he couldn’t have been naive enough to think the Marlins were serious when they gave him their box of chocolates with 100m bucks and wormy chocolate inside.
But it was a pastel box of chocolates.
Think it was more along the lines of an Ex-Lax chocolate center.
I know we never made an offer but I can’t help but feel some “Schadenfreude” over it.
Jose was feeling butt hurt and went where the love and the money was. Where’s that love now?
Next time “Beware of Loria’s bearing gifts” Jose.
That was a great trade for Miami. The young propects they got are better than #2 and #8. Anyhow the Jays still might not be done,they still have 4 catchers(arencibia-D’aRNAUD-Wilson-Buck). Maybe the Mets can help offset the jays minor leagues by taking D’Arnaud off them,for low minor players
Shoot for Gose and d’Arnaud. Dickey and throw in Murph to get a better 3rd prospect. Toronto still not settled at 2B. Do it Sandy. Do it!
I wonder if they will flip Reyes to the Yankees?
Nope he is stuck in Toronto until it gets to the junk part of the contact and then they will trade him to the Whitesox, lol.
He’s gonna love running on that pool table field at the Skydome or whatever they’re calling it today. How do you say Glucosamine Chondroiton in Spanish?
So is Mark Buhlre a failure for signing with Miami?
Is John Buck a failure for signing with Miami?
Jose Reyes is going to a team that is 10x more talented with a much better front office and ownership than the Mets
All you guys that claim that you loved Reyes so much when he was a met than come out and do cartwheels when he gets traded from a last place team with a crappy ownership ( as if the wilpons were going to offer him a contract ) basically showed ur teeth here
Reyes still has his money…is playing on a better team than the one he left….
and David Wright would probably rather play in Toronto than in Queens
Deal with it
If Wright wants to play in Toronto he can in one year. Up to him.
But notice, neither of us spoke negatively of Reyes but as usual you love to make things up to fit your agenda.
” Jose is a good player but no one ever accused him of having a sharp mind. ”
“Reyes is so good, he is already done in miami, lmao”
keep the positive comments coming
Did I say either of those?
Reyes is a good player but is he WORTH the money he was given? It’s not a matter of us or the owners liking him. Do you understand that at all?
Seriously, will Wright be worth the $140 million he is about to get? He makes Reyes look like a steal. (Get it steal)
Let’s wait untilWright gets that deal before comparing it.
Probably not but he’s a more complete player than Reyes and isn’t injury prone. And he has leverage in the sense that the team really has no other major stars to draw fans in.
It’s not just stats that earn you money. That being said I am not in favor of 7/140 either.
More complete player?
how so?
He does more commercials ?
Sure, or it could be that he hits for more power and a higher average and OBP?
Reyes can hit at the top of the order…the middle of the order….with a HOF in back of him…or a complete scrub…
Reyes can play SS…and can play 2B…
Wright is strictly a middle of the order hitter who can only be an effective one for an entire season when he is surrounded by superior talent.
The mere thought of moving Wright to any other position than 3B would be met by sheer laughter
And in terms of “leadership” when Reyes was here in 2011, the team pretty much declared him ( and Beltran ) as the leaders of that team
as a matter of fact, in a few weeks, guess where Ruben Tejada is staying and working out? In Long Island with his ex-teammate Jose Reyes..when Rich Coutino brought it up on Twitter, Matt Cerrone tried to throw cold water on it and said that Jose and Ruben are only training together b/c they shared the same agent…Matt forgets to mention that Jose was the one who hooked up Ruben with the agent….and none of the 17 other clients Greenburg has are working out this off-season together. The fact that Matt took time out on his day to downplay Jose Reyes doing a genuinely nice thing for a met player is exactly the BS I have been yelling about.
My money was on Loria trading him to the Yankees after the end of the 2013 season to replace Jeter when his contract ends. Dang…I didn’t see him trading him this soon, after just one year.
Yeah, and chances are with that contract backloaded the way it was, so did Reyes.
Woo-hoo!! The Mets look like a lock for 4th place this year!! It’s kind of nice to see a team with worse ownership than the Mets.
Just think if Jeff Loria and Jeff Wilpon were co-owners of a franchise. “The Two Jeffies”! The end of baseball as we know it! The potential for earth ending catastrophe would be staggering.
Some of you guys need to stop using your measuring sticks. lol
Dress warm Jose! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did he really think he’d be in nice warm Miami more than 2 years? I knew he wasn’t going to be there long but 1 year? I wonder if Toronto has frozen Snickers ready to greet Jose with.
Toronto has a dome and I hope Jose plays a part in helping them into the post season
Shhhh Fonzie is a Sarah Palin Fan who thinks Toronto is on the border of Russia
Count the Jays out as trade parner for Dickey. Now what?
Loser of the Angels and Rangers battle for Grinkie.
Not really…
If anything it all but ensures they trade at least one of either JP, Buck or Travis…
They traded Mathis already. Chances are they just dump Buck.
Reyes went to Miami for the money, that’s it. Had the Mets offered more he’d be a Met. Had the Mets offered him anything, he might be a Met.
The Loria dressing up and wooing Reyes part of the story is just for reporters to write about. FA is about $$$, the rest is just words for a column and stories for naive people to believe.
And nobody should feel sorry for Reyes, he’s headed to a good lineup, as opposed to playing with the Mets.
I could completely agree if it weren’t for Reyes comments about the entire situation and feeling like the Mets jilted him and how the Marlins showed him what it was like for a team to want him.
Yes because becoming emotionally upset at the team that doesnt make you an offer is proof that you never wanted to come back there
- said no sane person ever
Huh? Did I say Jose never wanted to come back? I am saying that his comments on feeling jilted and how the Marlins showed him a team that really wanted him seem a little ironic now don’t they.
Irony. It’s not just a joint in Iron Man’s armor.
Gregg November 13, 2012 at 9:50 pm
Reyes went to Miami for the money, that’s it. Had the Mets offered more he’d be a Met. Had the Mets offered him anything, he might be a Met.
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Trs86 November 13, 2012 at 9:54 pm
>I could completely agree if it weren’t for Reyes comments about the entire situation and feeling >like the Mets jilted him and how the Marlins showed him what it was like for a team to want him.
You said nothing about irony. This looks like u felt offended when Reyes said those comments
Lol, why the hell would I be offended? If you can’t see the irony in the fact that Reyes said the Mets didn’t show him they wanted him like the Marlins did and then the Marlins dumping him less than a year later to the Jays then i cant help that.
I think Reyes saw when he had to drop the NTC that he was on his way out.
Of course being scouted at age 15, signed at age 16, spending almost your entire teenage and adult life with 1 company wouldnt put that company in a different category than another employer with an owner you just met.
No difference at all
lmao met fans
When I say on his way out, I mean that he probably wasnt going to spend his entire contract in FL
You mean as opposed to playing for the last placed Marlins, which is who he played SS for in 2012. Don’t know what the Mets have to do with this trade.
I wanted Reyes re-signed here as much as all Reyes fans did but that shipped sailed about a year ago. Time to look ahead, not behind us.
Hey, Giancarlo, come on up here. We’ll love you.
Anyone down with dickey straight up for Stanton? Loria gets to sell the idea of a Cy Young winner for a year on the cheap.
He’s dumb but he ain’t stupid.
Wheeler, Parnell and Ike for Stanton lets do it!
Lol, ok sure.
I would take this trade in a second. This is probably the first time I’ve said that about a Dickey trade, but it’s obvious why… This would be a complete fleecing.
Then again, I think the Jays just got away with stealing the hearts from all 10 Miami Marlins fans so petty theft of Stanton might get over ok.
Throw in some guys like Havens, Familia and/or McHugh to even it out.
Or maybe Duda and some guys for LoMo.
I can’t imagine the Marlins would trade Stanton, a guy that’s still under their control and cheap, for a 38 year old pitcher who wants to get paid.
When Stanton gets traded it will be very much like the Miguel Cabrera deal. It will take at least 2 A+ level prospects, which Maybin and Miller were at the time. If the Mets wanted Stanton it’d be something like Wheeler, Harvey, Nimmo and some cash. And I’m not sure the Marlins couldn’t get a better package from another team. Texas could blow that package out of the water.
Mets fans are celebrating like we just did something significant. What is the matter with some of the posters here? Have they forgotten the giant mud pie we are sitting in? Is this a celebration that we’ll finish 4th instead of 5th? Someone please let me know.
Difference in celebrating and laughing. As a Mets fan sometimes you need to watch a circus now and then to take your mind off your own stress.
jcrasnick: “They’ve lost all credibility,” said one exec. “I don’t know how they can even show their faces in South Florida now.” #marlins
Met fans here at MMO aren’t the only ones looking at this and thinking ‘What A Circus’.
Thing is think of how badly they screwed up the FA market last year. Throwing all these ridiculous deals around and driving everyone else’s prices up, only to get rid of all of the before the next hot stove even got warm.
Detroit and LA were probably worse. They both went over 200 mill for single players. Reyes’ deal really isn’t that bad. Bell and Buehrle on the hand…………
It’s the entire thing though and way overbidding for each one. Fielder and Pujols had others offering similar money. When you give a guy like Bell that deal, you end up with guys like Fatty Frank getting 2/12. Damages the entire market.
I count 12 players.
This is…pretty interesting. I mean, the Marlins won’t be able to make Stanton happy now. He’s out of there and soon.
On another note, once…or if this trade goes through, Jays won’t be trading for Dickey. They might be more inclined to ship us JP now, though!
Reyes might score 130 runs batting in front of Bautista, Lawrie and Encarnacion. Even Lind was decent when he came back up from the minors. Jays would be foolish to bat Reyes anywhere but leadoff. Put Bonafacio 9th.
Let give thanks on Thanksgiving for the Marlins. Lets face it, with them around we can never be worse than a fourth place team.
People are always crying for Selig to take over the Mets, how can he when Loria is doing stuff like this which is a thousand times worse than anything Wilpon ever did.
Well the politicians that helped get tax payer money to pay for that park should be indicted.
There has never been a market for pro baseball in FLA. When the owner threatened to leave the mayor should have simply offered a friendly wave goodbye. The biggest crowd the team drew all season was Cubans protesting Ozzies comments about Castro.
Lol, but the stadium has a nightclub in it…
And the artwork in center field. It is a cultural touchstone down there.
Yup, Hanley, Reyes, Ozzie And Zamby leading the Marlins into a new Era… Hey is Zamby still there?
What a waste of investment by the Marlins. SMH.
Well the Mets are no longer the worst organization in the NL East. Although give the fish some credit, at least they don’t half @$.s a salary dump.
The Mets on the other hand, by letting Reyes leave, keeping Wright, and trading Dickey, will be doing their typical half hearted construction of a roster. But yes, at least were not the Marlins. Can that be our slogan for the 2013 season?
Holy salary dump, cant wait to see what Marlins chiped in $,,,i wouldve liked to have Reyes on Mets overall but w money being an issue.. Reyes contact backend loaded also, imagine paying over $20mill for Reyes, yikes
Breakdown of Reyes contract with #Marlins: $10 mil, $10 mil, $16 mil, $22 mil, $22 mil, $22 mil. $$22 mil option on ’18 with $4 mil buyout
Wish Jose all the best in Toronto and i’ll be rooting for him, still one of my all time favorite Mets.
I am going to predict that Reyes plays for about 6 MLB teams in his career. And if the Mets sign DW long term they are really not interested in building something long term–ust kowtowing to their whining fan base. DW is a half season player these days and not worthy of an 8 year or 7 year or 6 year contract in excess of 100 million. But it is their money. Of course if they have so little as it is, they ar efools to invest it in a third baseman. approaching 30
I would have taken Bonafacio to play CF and leadoff.
This move make toronto on paper at what could be a very powerful lineup and a very good team, they got speed, power, very good athletic players… My god, if it comes to fruition we could see this team score over 1000 runs… They need help in the bullpen..
This move make the marlins the worst team in the NL EAST for sure.. but as the A’s prove to the world, you never know.. Mets fans and FO should be happy, this can also means we got 4th place on lock down right now so… yeah..
Big mistake Jose going to the fickle, firesale Marlins with the unstable, moody Loria driving the bus. What a joke of a franchise. And how many picked the Marlins to win the division and even go to the WS. In his own words on twitter, Giancarlo Stanton is pissed. When Reyes was on the Mets, Toronto was the main team interested in trading for him.
Jose should have gotten a “no-trade to ” clause in his contract with Marlins.
Well to get that he would have had to go somewhere else because they don’t give them. Although, I wonder what type of paycut he would have had to take to wait and let his market develop more? Would the paycut have been worth the security? Remember the reports were that the Marlins actually offered Pujols more money but he required a no-trade clause. At least I think that’s right.
If he had, he would have taken less money from another team because the Marlins don’t give no trade clauses.
I’ve been saying this about the Marlins franchise since they were still in talks about the stadium:
The move to Miami would NOT boost attendance like they needed (Buster Olney reports 2012 attendance was 30-40% lower than they hoped), it was done strictly because the city would build the Fish a new stadium, and it would not change ANYTHING about the team.
As I’ve also said for about 5 years now, the Miami Hurricanes baseball team will love their new stadium in a few years once the Marlins are legally allowed to move.
I’m so thankful to have been born a Mets fan because, if I only had the Marlins (moved to South Florida in April, 1993), I’d hate baseball by now.
An under-rated aspect of this deal…
Toronto acquired 4 different trading chips with high value…
so whatever pieces dont fit, they can trade for pieces that DO
Right now AA is making JP look like Al Harazin
Ya I’d be thrilled to acquire a guy whose been traded twice in as many years and has a huge contract. Can I give up my highest rated prospect for him too while taking on the entire salary?
I’m not saying AA did a bad job or that this won’t work, but if it doesn’t, your scenario isn’t plausible.
Toronto got back 2 SP, 1 SS and a Catcher…
thats 4 pieces they can trade…
If JJ is having a stellar 1st half….he’s DEF trade bait…
as a matter of fact, there is no guarantee he isnt traded before the season starts
Of course you have to focus on Reyes…after next year he would have 4 years left on the contract and would just be turning 30…
If Toronto chips in even 25% towards his contract, the team acquiring him would be paying 15 mil for him from age 30-34
of course in Met land thats means its an albatross of a contract and Reyes has a 99.999% of blowing both his hamstrings dancing merengue at his daughter’s bday party
The catcher is a bum and will probably be dropped or a throw in on another deal.
They need starting pitching, so they sure as hell aren’t moving a young stud like JJ or an established vet like Beuhrle.
“Of course you have to focus on Reyes…after next year he would have 4 years left on the contract and would just be turning 30…”
Actually, Buehrle fits it as well. But when do facts ever slow you down from posturing?
And ya, a guy who relies on his legs and already has hamstring issues, paying on a horrible surface for a year and hitting 30. Oh, and his contract rate doubles in the second half of his deal. I’d love to acquire that. Its not like speed is the first physical asset to go and is usually declining before most guys even make it to the Show.
“If Toronto chips in even 25% towards his contract, the team acquiring him would be paying 15 mil for him from age 30-34″
Even if your math is right, $15 million a year for potentially Luis Castillo?
Since it was my tax money that paid for it I say Bud, no cojones Selig, moves Rays into Miami stadium and move Marlins into Tropicana Dome as pay back for the back stabbing by Miami ownership.
How can they come up with any plausible explanation for Miami fans?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, is he gonna DAVID STERN this trade????????
‘Bud Selig is placing the blockbuster deal with the Blue Jays under review.’
I’ll bet this is all for show and Selig has no intention of vetoing this trade.
If he somehow does, wonder what he’ll use for justification?
Just make Loria sell the team. It’s not like this is the last time he’s going to have a fire sale of this magnitude.
Can it be that Selig will use the old “Best Interests of Baseball card”?
Maybe…we’ll soon find out.
I wonder what the time frame is for him to come to a decision?
I just read Fangraphs article making a case for this being a sound trade and the Marlins for being a good model for a baseball team. I’m just not buying it. Part of a well run business as it pertains to baseball is putting out a good product that fans will want to see and spend money on. Don’t know how that could possibly apply to the Marlins. They had such a small fan base to begin with. This isn’t going to help the cause at all.
Besides, even if all these prospects leads to another WS championship in the near future, Loria will just have another mega fire sale the year after and do it all over again.
I don’t think the lack of spending is b/c there is no money. It’s b/c he’s cheap and would rather pocket as much profit as he’s allowed.
According to Star.Com:
“The commissioner’s office reviews all trades in which more than $1 million in cash exchange hands. The Marlins are reportedly sending $4 million to Toronto.”
End of story?
Selig is just posturing because Loria just embarrassed the MLB and the next time they go to the table with the players association this will be an issue theyll have to address in some capacity.
My money is he lets the deal go through because he has NO backbone. David Stern was smart enough to realize that Chris Paul trade wasnt a good one and vetoed it ASAP!
But I honestly dont care about the Marlins
I wanna know what the hell are the mets going to do….im tired of hearing about Wright,Dickey negotiations. They will be on the team next year regardless. BUT who else will be in that damn outfield!!!
FYI everyones saying how bad this is for Reyes but the only negative is he pays more tax in Toronto. He makes 100 mil his family wont starve and he gets to grow his Dredlocks back lol….
Logan Morrison is the next one out of town though because he has a big mouth and Loria knows it lol
‘Logan Morrison is the next one out of town though because he has a big mouth and Loria knows it.’
I agree.
And now that Stanton has joined LoMo in his focal criticism of this latest Marlin move, how long before Loria decides to dump him as well?
Hello, Hello, paging Sandy.
Not to mention that Reyes can demand a trade if he doesn’t like it there!
If you trade a FA early in a new contract he gets the right to demand a trade or become a free agent if no trade can be worked out!
Actually with the tax raises Obama is going to have in place for millionaires…Im not even sure if the tax in Toronto would even be that big of a difference
I agree Leroy I think Reyes is going to put up a monster year in that park. 30+ 2B’s, 20 3B’s 15-20 HR’s 30 SB’s 120 Runs
Selig can’t do anything. The trade will go though
What is the Marlins payroll down to 30 something million. I do not understand why they don’t have a minimum baseball payroll amount or a floor. Lets for illustration purposes isay the floor is 70 M. The hard cap should be 2 1/2 the minimum or 175 M. The owners who can’t afford the minimum would have to sell. In addtion the problem of leverage should be addressed. Current Assets minus Current Liab must be 1.5 to 1. All long term bonds must be funded in a bond sinking fund. Total Assets minus Total Liabilities (debt ratio) must be a maximumd .5 to total assets or lower. All multiplayer transactions that can be construed as a “fire sale” must be submitted to the Commissioners office in advance for approval. Tax payers who approve a stadium funding should be able to publically submit a lawsuit to block any kind of the salary dump or sue the owner for his personal assets. The owner can try to justify the accusation by presenting the return player/prospects he recived. If the commisioner feels not enough he can select a list of players such as in PTBNL that the team with the undue advantage has to relinguish.
Any owner who can’t meet these ratios and minimum payroll as I suggest be mandated should be forced to sell regardless what the commisioner wants to do. Its like a mandatory jail sentence out of the judges hands.
This is called leveling the playing field figuratively and literally.
Wow!!!
Even the Mayor of Miami getting involved and rightfully so.
We also have to realize that Loria takes money from the other owners of big market teams due to the collective bargaining agreement.
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http://www1.wsvn.com/news/articles/sports/21009069812661/miami-mayor-wants-to-intervene-in-marlins-sell-off/
You had two GMs promise big changes this off season in the NL east. At least one stood true to his word. Wake me up if and when the Mets do something big.
Has Selig ever used the “Best Interest of Baseball” clause against an owner before?
And how come when the entire world was saying this was going to happen, Selig didn’t say anything last winter? Why didn’t he take preventative measures against a very foreseeable outcome?