Jose and Brandon are months in age apart.

Brandon had a mediocre year in -A ball….( not even A ball yet )
Jose blew away A league …going 7-1
then was promoted and blew away A+ league …again going 7-1

Jose for the year finished 14-2 with a 1.75 ERA
Jose was also the YOUNGEST player on his team at age 19

If Sandy drafted Jose and the Marlins drafted Nimmo…you would laugh hysterically at the notion of Brandon being a better pick

I understand your point and agree.

In some years there have been certain players already hyped as can’t misses by those covering high school and college baseball before the draft and there are other years when the crop of talent seems good but without many of those can’t miss type players. I remember back in 1964 a big bonus baby named Rick Reichart – he signed for at the time an unheard of $400,000 bonus was touted as the next great superstar before he ever played a minor league game for the Angels. He even played a few games for Los Angeles (that’s what the Angeles were back then) right after his signing.

Rick had a few good seasons but I doubt those not in our age group ever even heard of him.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/reichri01.shtml

No contradiction in terms on your part.

I can understand your point because some caucasians I know who were Met fans were mumbling the same thing. However, that’s more a reflection of their bigotry than their team allegiance. Years before, the criticism of the team was that it was almost lily-white (I remember George Foster hinting at such when he was released during the 1986 season).

So you are right to call those people out, but not as a group. It’s like what Bill Maher joked about when telling the African American community on his show tonight about him being white: “hey, I’m one of the good ones!”.

Do you mean that Sandy Alderson does have a clue now?

Sandy is no general manager in the baseball sense so whatever the record is under his administrations it is as relevant as is the Mets record under M. Donald Grant. But, just like Grant, he can be responsible for a team’s failure for we know Grant ran the franchise right into the ground not because he made baseball decisions but because he refused to allow his general managers to spend money once Mrs. Payson passed away.

I was thinking more on the lines that raw talent is raw talent and it takes time to nurture so nobody can make a projection based on his rookie year. And because we cannot go by the stats, we have to go by what the scouts always look at with unproven talent – if they have the mechanics and potential to mature them enough to possibly have a shot in the majors.

It’s not done by stats so what I’m more interested in is the scouting assessment on how his mechanics have shown so far and what that might mean for the future.

But I am indeed wondering whether or not Sandy relies on statistical analysis to select draft pick selections in lieu of letting scouts make their recommendations based on traditional and proven observation skills. Bill James has said the jury is out regarding the use of advanced stats for judging raw talent in both high school and college. If Sandy does insist on that leverage I think there is valid criticism of his draft philosophy and, unfortunately, Nimmo is going to get caught in the crossfire, unfairly I think.

So we need to know what goes into the Mets selection process. If Sandy recognizes the importance of traditional scouting tools and insight, then criticism of him in this aspect of his job is unfair – and, as you know, this is coming from one who is definitely not a supporter of Sandy.

in 2005, the mets ranked 10th among all teams in latinos on the roster…

listening to met fans complain about Omar, you would’ve thought we were ranked #1

I’ve beaten this subject to death…to the point where although I still get insulted when i see racial tendancies, the arguments become boring.

Petey Pete puts Cam Maron ( a guy who the mets made a DH ), Kevin Pawlecki, someone ranked with poor catching skills, and brooke fordyce ( an absolute scrub ) ahead of Juan Centeno…someone who since 2010 has had 3 straight productive years.

I can bring out all the stats I want, Petey Pete and the rest of the Sandy fans will stand by their men.

Does it matter that Juan is heads and shoulders better than them behind the plate? NOPE
Does it matter that Juan has a higher batting average? NOPE

They’ll point to OPS/SLG/HR and say that since Juan doesnt have high numbers there, he’s not as good of a catching prospect.

Basically to sum it up, seeing stuff like this on the heels of the past 6 years, just smells like that good ol boy mentality

o well

Joe D is a Mets fan. I am a Mets fan and both of us would tell you we don’t share such ideas or opinions that you often say about Mets fans.

I don’t know anything about you but you seem like an intelligent person and I agree with you that there are idiots and racists in all walks of life but that doesn’t mean that when a reporter says something negative it is due to racism or when someone says something negative of a player of Latin descent it is because they are racist. It could be because they simply do not like the person for who he is irregardless of race.

I am not saying this to tell you to stop or even tone down cause I know that is a waste of time as people will say and do as they please but I say this in hopes you consider my words in the future when forming your opinions on future matters.

Right…because the 6 years of met fans complaining Omar trying to make the team too latin was just my imagination…..

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/071210

Mainly because the Marlins will suck and will desperately claw for talented prospects.

I’m just defending a prospect for the team I root for.

Declaring 19 year old kids who are competing against 22 year olds as “busts” seems a little premature, no?