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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, baby, it&#039;s different this time. I know all those things you heard from the others. But I&#039;ve changed. things are different now. You aren&#039;t like the rest. I&#039;m totally with you for the long haul.

the two of them get as much sympathy as Chris Humphries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, baby, it&#8217;s different this time. I know all those things you heard from the others. But I&#8217;ve changed. things are different now. You aren&#8217;t like the rest. I&#8217;m totally with you for the long haul.</p>
<p>the two of them get as much sympathy as Chris Humphries.</p>
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		<title>By: Trs86</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/marlins-lied-to-reyes.html#comment-305470</link>
		<dc:creator>Trs86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey good to see you fellow NC Mets fan.  I agree with most of this.  I too think that too much blame gets placed on the Mets for Jose not being here.  It was his choice too.  

It&#039;s like the relationship between my dad and hs brother, he refuses to call or go see him because his brother hasn&#039;t called or came to see him, lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey good to see you fellow NC Mets fan.  I agree with most of this.  I too think that too much blame gets placed on the Mets for Jose not being here.  It was his choice too.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the relationship between my dad and hs brother, he refuses to call or go see him because his brother hasn&#8217;t called or came to see him, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 06:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Dan,

I don&#039;t think the owners want others telling them how to conduct their businesses short of it being illegal.   Integrity doesn&#039;t count for anything with most of them and the commissioner&#039;s office  -  as we saw when the Mets wanted to wear special caps in memory of those we lost on the tenth anniversary of 9/11.  We also saw a few years back the ownership in Pittsburgh making a $51 million profit by simply pocketing the revenue sharing his team got.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the owners want others telling them how to conduct their businesses short of it being illegal.   Integrity doesn&#8217;t count for anything with most of them and the commissioner&#8217;s office  &#8211;  as we saw when the Mets wanted to wear special caps in memory of those we lost on the tenth anniversary of 9/11.  We also saw a few years back the ownership in Pittsburgh making a $51 million profit by simply pocketing the revenue sharing his team got.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan from Whitestone</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/marlins-lied-to-reyes.html#comment-305415</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan from Whitestone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How Loria is allowed to own a team is hard to understand. I know new owners have to go through a long and exhausting vetting process, so why cant they review current owners to ensure they are meeting those same standards?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How Loria is allowed to own a team is hard to understand. I know new owners have to go through a long and exhausting vetting process, so why cant they review current owners to ensure they are meeting those same standards?</p>
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		<title>By: L.J. Phipps</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/marlins-lied-to-reyes.html#comment-305396</link>
		<dc:creator>L.J. Phipps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet and still the Marlins have won 2 world series, just as many as our Mets, and more than the Mets have since 1986 ................. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet and still the Marlins have won 2 world series, just as many as our Mets, and more than the Mets have since 1986 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/marlins-lied-to-reyes.html#comment-305384</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 02:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reported but wrong....
Reyes got an invite to go to see the Brewers after the GM Meetings and as a result Miami upped thier offer to 106 MIl on a take it or leave it basis.

Reyes canceled and took the 106 M Miami offer.

There was someone else interested in talking but I don&#039;t remember who it was and they were never considered very serious in trumping the original 100M Marlin offer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reported but wrong&#8230;.<br />
Reyes got an invite to go to see the Brewers after the GM Meetings and as a result Miami upped thier offer to 106 MIl on a take it or leave it basis.</p>
<p>Reyes canceled and took the 106 M Miami offer.</p>
<p>There was someone else interested in talking but I don&#8217;t remember who it was and they were never considered very serious in trumping the original 100M Marlin offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/marlins-lied-to-reyes.html#comment-305383</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 02:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Difference is Finlay said it to TV cameras not to Williams himself as part of a negotiation.

You have to prove it was a direct conversation you had with the other party involved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Difference is Finlay said it to TV cameras not to Williams himself as part of a negotiation.</p>
<p>You have to prove it was a direct conversation you had with the other party involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 01:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before Jose even announced he was going to sign with Miami  it was already being reported that other general managers had dropped out of the race not wanting to compete with Loria&#039;s ridiculous offer.   I think it was reported that Loria said scaring off the rest of the competition was his way of assuring he could get Reyes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before Jose even announced he was going to sign with Miami  it was already being reported that other general managers had dropped out of the race not wanting to compete with Loria&#8217;s ridiculous offer.   I think it was reported that Loria said scaring off the rest of the competition was his way of assuring he could get Reyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 01:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Metsie,

Are you sure about a verbal agreement being recorded but not agreed to in writing would stand up in court?  I remember after the 1973 world series manager Dick Willliams made it clear he wanted out of his contract with Oakland with one year to go and on national television in the locker-room celebration Charles Finlay said he would not step in his way.  Then, when Williams was signed by the Yankees the deal had to be voided because Finlay refused to honor his word.  At the time, if I recall properly, there was talk that the Yankees and Williams were pursuing using that taped conversation in court but found it probably would not hold up as legally binding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Metsie,</p>
<p>Are you sure about a verbal agreement being recorded but not agreed to in writing would stand up in court?  I remember after the 1973 world series manager Dick Willliams made it clear he wanted out of his contract with Oakland with one year to go and on national television in the locker-room celebration Charles Finlay said he would not step in his way.  Then, when Williams was signed by the Yankees the deal had to be voided because Finlay refused to honor his word.  At the time, if I recall properly, there was talk that the Yankees and Williams were pursuing using that taped conversation in court but found it probably would not hold up as legally binding.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/marlins-lied-to-reyes.html#comment-305360</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 23:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And you do realize that if they can actually prove he said that Loria would be legally bound to honor that verbal commitment because it&#039;s just as binding as anything they had in writing.

Problem is how do they prove it unless they recorded the conversation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you do realize that if they can actually prove he said that Loria would be legally bound to honor that verbal commitment because it&#8217;s just as binding as anything they had in writing.</p>
<p>Problem is how do they prove it unless they recorded the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Bayonne Mets Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bayonne Mets Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oops my bad,

Should say the Wilpons gave out all these contracts and made all these decisions because that&#039;s what a lot of people like to believe here.

I&#039;ll put it this way, any bad contract is Omar&#039;s fault and any good contract is an incredibly smart move by Alderson.  That&#039;s the way the goons look at things.  Good contracts by Omar can be explained away and bad contracts by Sandy are the Wilpon&#039;s fault.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops my bad,</p>
<p>Should say the Wilpons gave out all these contracts and made all these decisions because that&#8217;s what a lot of people like to believe here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll put it this way, any bad contract is Omar&#8217;s fault and any good contract is an incredibly smart move by Alderson.  That&#8217;s the way the goons look at things.  Good contracts by Omar can be explained away and bad contracts by Sandy are the Wilpon&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Bayonne Mets Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bayonne Mets Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes,

Omar gave Reyes a four-year $23 million contract and Wright a six-year $55 million deal.

I remember on talk radio how some hosts were saying how Jose should have gotten a better contract but the point is Omar gave out 2 very good contracts to 2 young rising stars at the time.  I believe they now call it &quot;under team control&quot;.  Kind of like Sandy signing Niese but when Sandy does it it&#039;s a revelation, magical, brand-new, incredible, unbelievable genius, etc.

But when Omar does it, it&#039;s ignored and people talk about Castillo, Perez, &amp; Bay.  Sandy is not too dissimilar with a good contract for Niese and pretty much bombing out with the rest of his spending so far]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes,</p>
<p>Omar gave Reyes a four-year $23 million contract and Wright a six-year $55 million deal.</p>
<p>I remember on talk radio how some hosts were saying how Jose should have gotten a better contract but the point is Omar gave out 2 very good contracts to 2 young rising stars at the time.  I believe they now call it &#8220;under team control&#8221;.  Kind of like Sandy signing Niese but when Sandy does it it&#8217;s a revelation, magical, brand-new, incredible, unbelievable genius, etc.</p>
<p>But when Omar does it, it&#8217;s ignored and people talk about Castillo, Perez, &amp; Bay.  Sandy is not too dissimilar with a good contract for Niese and pretty much bombing out with the rest of his spending so far</p>
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		<title>By: Metstheory22</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/marlins-lied-to-reyes.html#comment-305347</link>
		<dc:creator>Metstheory22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t  Omar Minaya give Reyes a lesser contract than he did with Wright, the last contract they both signed?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t  Omar Minaya give Reyes a lesser contract than he did with Wright, the last contract they both signed?</p>
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		<title>By: taskmaster4450</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/11/marlins-lied-to-reyes.html#comment-305345</link>
		<dc:creator>taskmaster4450</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are correct.  If its not on paper, it doesnt exist.  Everyone knows this.  It is what is in the contract.  

I doubt Reyes was surprised by this.  The slap aside the head was when they traded Hanley.  He was one of the reason Reyes went to Miami.

As for the lack of a no trade clause, that is what happens when there is only one team in the bidding.  Fans want to latch onto this garbage about the Mets didnt make an offer.  Guess what?  28 other teams didnt either.  $100M was and is absurd price for Reyes but the Marlins wanted him.  His agents were in a bid in that the Mets were out of the bidding so they couldnt play the &quot;this is what they offered&quot; game.  

Reyes took the money, which I cannot blame him which meant no trade protection.  Pujols wasnt about to jump at that hence he got his money and a no trade clause.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct.  If its not on paper, it doesnt exist.  Everyone knows this.  It is what is in the contract.  </p>
<p>I doubt Reyes was surprised by this.  The slap aside the head was when they traded Hanley.  He was one of the reason Reyes went to Miami.</p>
<p>As for the lack of a no trade clause, that is what happens when there is only one team in the bidding.  Fans want to latch onto this garbage about the Mets didnt make an offer.  Guess what?  28 other teams didnt either.  $100M was and is absurd price for Reyes but the Marlins wanted him.  His agents were in a bid in that the Mets were out of the bidding so they couldnt play the &#8220;this is what they offered&#8221; game.  </p>
<p>Reyes took the money, which I cannot blame him which meant no trade protection.  Pujols wasnt about to jump at that hence he got his money and a no trade clause.</p>
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		<title>By: Bayonne Mets Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bayonne Mets Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish I could be blinded by $100 million.   Another fool who refuses to accept the front office had no desire to make Reyes a decent offer, never made him one, never wanted him back in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could be blinded by $100 million.   Another fool who refuses to accept the front office had no desire to make Reyes a decent offer, never made him one, never wanted him back in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, guess you can say the same thing about wright and the counter offer they made after a deal was offered to him right? ohh, wait.. He&#039;s the Golden boy, and he&#039;s not greedy nor like the other players who are all about the money.. Nope.. Only guys like reyes are like that.. Even though he didn&#039;t get any offer from the mets FO we should still be holding a grudge against him and not sandy and co...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, guess you can say the same thing about wright and the counter offer they made after a deal was offered to him right? ohh, wait.. He&#8217;s the Golden boy, and he&#8217;s not greedy nor like the other players who are all about the money.. Nope.. Only guys like reyes are like that.. Even though he didn&#8217;t get any offer from the mets FO we should still be holding a grudge against him and not sandy and co&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reyes was too blinded by the $100 million to see through the lies. Let him freeze his ass off in Canada and lets see how those legs hold up on astroturf and in that cold air.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reyes was too blinded by the $100 million to see through the lies. Let him freeze his ass off in Canada and lets see how those legs hold up on astroturf and in that cold air.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which probably translate to if the professional players don&#039;t realize, their agents certainly do.
No matter what Loria &amp; his band of thieves verbally promised Reyes, his agent should have known better and probably did.

If he didn&#039;t point it out to Reyes, Jose should be looking for another agent.
If he did discuss it with him and Reyes decided to take his chances and sign in Miami anyway, that&#039;s life.

It&#039;s not just about &#039;greedy ball players&#039; as some have pointed out.  It includes these agents getting a nice little cut for themselves with these high priced contracts as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which probably translate to if the professional players don&#8217;t realize, their agents certainly do.<br />
No matter what Loria &amp; his band of thieves verbally promised Reyes, his agent should have known better and probably did.</p>
<p>If he didn&#8217;t point it out to Reyes, Jose should be looking for another agent.<br />
If he did discuss it with him and Reyes decided to take his chances and sign in Miami anyway, that&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just about &#8216;greedy ball players&#8217; as some have pointed out.  It includes these agents getting a nice little cut for themselves with these high priced contracts as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too bad you can&#039;t detect sarcasm....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad you can&#8217;t detect sarcasm&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: MetsWatchman</title>
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		<dc:creator>MetsWatchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was the classic &quot;buyer beware&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the classic &#8220;buyer beware&#8221;</p>
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