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2012
Mets Offer Wright 7-Year, $124 Million Deal
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Update at 3:55 PM on 11/29
Andy Martino of the Daily News commented on the Wright negotiations earlier today via Twitter: “Wright deal could get done with one more conversation, but my guess — just a guess, not sourced — is that his camp will wait a few days.”
Update at 9:20am on 11/29:
The Mets have offered Wright an 8-year, $140 million dollar deal says Andy Martino of the Daily News. That offer includes his 2013 option, so essentially it is a 7-year, $124 million dollar deal being offered to the star third baseman.
The deal is believed to be similar to the structure to that of Jose Reyes’ contract that he signed with the Marlins last winter, meaning that it is backloaded and essentially the first two years of the new deal will be around $10-13 million, after which it will skyrocket to the $20 million range. Martino is also reporting that the deferrals are similar to those of Santana’s/Beltran’s contracts.
The Mets are supposedly waiting on a response from Wright’s camp at this time.
We’ll have more on this for you as this new development unravels.
Original Post 4:23pm on 11/28:
After the swarm of reports yesterday regarding the contract extension talks between the Mets and their star third baseman David Wright, capped off by Wright himself coming out and denying the reports, WFAN’s Mike Francesa reported on his show earlier today that the offer is ‘legit’ and close to coming to fruition.
Here is what Francesa had to say this morning, transcribed by Danny Abriano of Rising Apple:
“My understanding is the offer is legitimate. … You cannot say the Mets have not made a fair offer. They have made a legitimatley fair, sound, offer. The biggest issue is how much is front-loaded, how much is in the later parts of the contract. Is there deferred money after the contract ends? Clearly, how you structure the contract is still open for debate. … I think the Mets have put forth a contract that is substantial and is respectful in every way. … I was a little surprised by some of the comments from Wright’s camp, but it’s posturing. … The only thing I wanted to find out is whether the deal is legit, and the deal is legit. Does he want to stay? I would think he does. I would categorize them as being very close.”
Wright has stated that he wants to keep contract discussions private, so perhaps he came out and denied the reports last night at an attempt to keep said negotiations so? Who knows.
Keep checking back here at MMO in the coming days as these developments continue to heat up. We’ll have all the latest news on everything Mets for you!
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David Wright = the Mets version of Allan Houston?
Oh WOW!
That is a PERFECT COMPARISON!!!
Sandy Alderson = Knicks version of Donnie Walsh.
Jeff Wilpon = Knicks version of James Dolon.
ehhh…
Donnie also drafted Gallo….drafted and got the pieces that got Melo as well
I wish Sandy was as active as Donnie was
“Wright has stated that he wants to keep contract discussions private, so perhaps he came out and denied the reports last night at an attempt to keep said negotiations so? Who knows.”
Whoa! Bro that is NOT true…Wright is a DEMI-GOD….
He’s too righteous, he’d never Fib or lie…..
DEVIL GET BACK! GET BEHIND ME SATAN!
I just cant wait til they get this done already becauase it seems like this front office either cant multi-task or they dont have a plan and utilize the domino effect strategy during the off-season. As in one move leads to the next then ooops times up all the decent players are gone.
We dont even hear about any list of players the Mets might be interested in. And no im not saying they should telegraph there plans(fyi i dont think they have a plan) but usually when teams contact players agents to gage asking price that players agent leaks so and so is interested in player A too boost interest in them. But not the mets we just wait til the offseason is over and sign TRASH!
So you have it on good authority the Mers haven’t talked to any players besides Wright and Dickey?
Yes, they called Mike Pelfrey and asked him to come back
#Multi-Tasking
Do you have it on any decent authority they have?
Unless you have proof to the contrary posts like your are something we could do without….
If you cant prove they have then there is no point asking for proof they didn’t…
Did they talk to Upton?
Did they talk to Martin who plays a position we have said needs upgrading?
Who have they talked to other than the press, Wright and Dickey about signing a MLB contract?
I have no idea or proof of whom they talked to or didn’t talk to, which is why I don’t make wildly false accusations. If you claim something, be prepared to back it up. Don’t whine about asking for proof of the fact that there is no proof.
So tell us all what would constitite as PROOF they didn’t talk to someone?
A Blank Phone bill?
This is a bigger soap opera than last year with Reyes. At this point who knows what to believe.
Just watched the analysis on MLB breaking down Wright’s numbers vs. Zimmerman and Longoria as well as the contracts.
They were going with the premise of 7 years, 124 MIL and the conclusion they came to based strictly on stats (none of those intangibles like a ‘C’ some have been tossing around), is it’s a fair contract for both sides. And I agree.
Now…whether it’s a smart move by the Mets given the organization right now – well, that’s a whole different debate all together.
FYI: the Braves signed Upton for five years for 70-75 million. They got a good deal. Why can’t we do stuff like that? Bourn is avaikable and could come cheaper.
Bourn won’t go cheaper. And the question you should be asking is “would that be a good deal for the Mets?”
Because we actually get a good player in center…..do ou not understand that you can’t win without good players???????
Are we all Wilpon accountants now????
If they can afford to pay Wright something e isn’t worth why not actually try and put a team around him that can win
Is he a good enough layer to put us over the top? Because that is what he’d be paid for.
And since when is doing one stupid thing a good reason to do another stupid thing?
this isn’t about being the wilpons accountants. This is about seeing the big picture and how the current situation fits into it.
I don’t want to be in this situation again in 3 or 4 years. I don’t want 2 or 3 guys on the back end of long term deals underperforming or past their prime preventing us from holding on to Harvey/Wheeler/Flores/whoever or keeping us from getting a free agent to put us over the top as contenders.
Do you not understand that we can’t keep making the same mistakes and expect to not be a punchline of a franchise?
So Wright has an excuse every year to suck.
Bad Back ? Nope
Huge Park? Nope
Weak Supporting Cast? Yup
Where the hell did you get that? What is it with you and the inability to stay on topic?
although, I am proud of you for not making a ham fisted attempt at making this a race riot.
If the Mets sign David Wright…they might as well sign Josh Hamilton to play RF, Michael Bourn to play CF
Potential lineup..
1 – Bourn – CF
2 – Murphy – 2B
3 – Hamilton – RF
4 – Wright – 3B
5 – Ike – 1B
6 – Duda – LF
7 – Catcher
8 – Tejada – SS
you said that u dont double-down on your mistakes ( basically David Wright’s contract = mistake )
I say, If you dont surround David Wright with a murderer’s row lineup…he has to excuse to suck every year
is that on-topic enough for you
You need to spend money to make money sometimes. Wright has a few years left of his prime. Useless to sign him unless you surround him with good players. We already blew it with Reyes. It’s a wild card era – dont have to win 95 games every year to win the series. Just need to be good.
Wpons aren’t broke and past mistakes with contracts aren’t the reason we cry poverty. Freddy and Jeff built a stadium that needs to draw 3 million fans with a 95 million payroll to break even if you believe their crap. Math doesn’t add up. Step out if your narrow box for a sec and ask how can a New York team with a sub 100 mil payroll be losing money when they are drawing 2.5 million fans ith al the tv and revenue sharing money
“You need to spend money to make money sometimes.”
You need to spend money WISELY. People keep forgetting that part.
and besides, are you Wilpon’s accountant now? this is about building a franchise into a sustainable winner.
“It’s a wild card era – dont have to win 95 games every year to win the series. Just need to be good.”
I don’t want to just make the playoffs. I want to be expected to make a run. I want to feel confident that we won’t get bounced after 1 game. I want to be a legit contender. I want to be able to reasonably believe the Mets can win the NL East every year.
And whining and pissing and moaning about slapping down the biggest contract to whatever player is the least crappy on the market every year is not how you do that. In fact, as we have and other teams have demonstrated frequently, that method seems to produce the exact opposite outcome I want.
Really????
Seems to work for the yanks, tigers,red sox, phillies and cards pretty well
You probably are one of those guys who doesn’t like Matt holidays contract or prince fielders contract or cc sabatjias contract. All overpaid but good players, you live in a dream world if you think you can build a sustainable winner through just the draft. Unless you are advocating the rays strategy or Nate strategy of finishing last for 7 straight years.
Really. And where did those teams get their cores from:
Yankees: Pettite, Rivera, Jeter, Cano, Nova, Hughes, Roberson
Phillies: Rollins, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Ruiz
Red Sox: Youkalis, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Lester, Bucholtz
Mets: Duda, Murhpy, Thole, Parnell, Ike, Niese.
Not exactly an even. How many AS appearances do the Mets players have versus the rest? MVPs? CYs?
It is crucial to develop talent. The Mets havent been doing that.
It’s not exactly even because the players you listed for the other teams have been in the league much longer. Your post is very unfair.
Not only that but he’s going back to 1995 to when Mariano was a rookie. Talk about a bullshit post this guy is “t agee lite” He does the same thing but in less words.
To show how unfair his post is, since 1995 The Mets have been in 5 serious pennant races involving 3 post season appearances. They also had pennant runs, although not as serious as 2007 and 2008, in 1998 and 2001 but fell short.
But because a game ended on a walk in 1999, a save was blown game 1 of 2000 WS, 2 gigantic choke jobs in ’07 & ’08, and a Yadier Molina HR in 2006. Just because of those 5 games this clown goes back to 1995 complaining about the Mets drafts. Even though the drafts have NOTHING to do with the fact that this team has had it’s destiny in it’s own hands several times over the last few years.
What we call a second guessing, monday morning quarterback.
I can see I have to explain this to the uninformed.
The OP mentioned that those teams were built through the spending of money when in reality their foundation was laid through the development of their core.
And the reason that it went back to 1995 is because that is when the Yankee run started…and the players still around today.
Also, if your going by players who are still with the team today, then why did you list Youkilis, who isn’t on the Redsox’s anymore?
“And where did those teams get their cores from”
Which came first? The Core or the bought and paid for STARS that were around them so they could win?
As for the Mets you got that list all wrong….
Wright, Davis, Tejada, Niese, Gee, Harvey, and since you guys love him so much lets throw Wheeler in there as he would now be a CORE guy…Thats a list of 7 core guys compared the the three or four those other teams had at any one time…
Those CORES as you put it all had to have spending for good free agents otherwise they would not have done squat!
Phillies had to get Lee, Yankees had to have Boggs and a ton of FA Pitching like Clemons.
Red Sox needed Manny Rivera and Johnny Damon, and Braves needed Maddox
So yes you should get yourself a mirror to explain to UNINFORMED just how having a core works or doesn’t UNTIL it has some money SPENT on it to surround it with the stars needed to show those Kids how it is done and how to win under pressure.
“I can see I have to explain this to the uninformed”
Yes you do need to start explaining things to yourself because you need the work…
If you objectively wanted to review the talent the Mets have produced VS other teams in the league in the last decade, you would have included Wright and Reyes.
Then that makes it more objective. Harvey should also be included as well.
Since he’s gone as far back as Mariano’s rookie season you can even throw in Edgardo Alfonso!
Exactly so let’s revise the flaskmaster’s original post then:
Yankees: Pettite, Rivera, Jeter, Cano, Nova, Hughes, Roberson
Phillies: Rollins, Howard, Utley, Hamels, Ruiz
Red Sox: Youkalis, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Lester, Bucholtz
Mets: Alfonso, Wright, Reyes, Ike, Niese, Harvey
Not as impressive as the Yanks but a more fair observation
btw, If Nova is included for the Yankess, then couldn’t Gee be included for us?
lmao the Yankees in 1994 had the best record in baseball…
NO Mariano…NO Jeter…No Posada…
Just Bernie Williams…
The Phillies, yes…
the braves, yes
the rays, yes
but the yankees? na dude…ur gonna have to miss me on that one…
their time is almost over…now that reyes is no longer a potential SS for them…and they are stuck with A-Rod at 3B for the next 5 years…its gonna be fun to see them crash and burn
lol uninformed. You went back to 1995, but you didn’t include Wright and Reyes for the Mets. I don’t think I have to tell you that they were drafted/signed after 1995.
Metsie, I would like for him to inform the “uninformed” as to why he would list players going all the way back to 1995 for other teams, yet leave out 2 high profile players that we drafted AFTER 1995?
I’d also like to know why he would list Nova for the Yankees, but not list Gee for us even though Gee’s ERA is almost a FULL run lower than Nova’s?
Why was Tejada and Harvey excluded?
Why did he defend putting players in from 1995 on the list by saying they were still on the team, yet he listed Youk who is not on the team anymore?
And finally, OF COURSE players that were drafted in the 1990′s and early 2000′s are going to have more all star appearances than players drafted from 2005-2008. They have the advantage of time and experience. It’s just so deceptive, it’s like a politician when comes up with these numbers that overwhelmingly back up his point, but when you look at it closely , it’s all just deceit and trickery.
I’m not saying that the Mets talent is equal to that of the Yankees or Phillies, but what I’m saying is what he did was totally unfair and biased because he tried to make it seem like the talent deferential was bigger that was it really was.
Well I know why he did that (and you do too)
Because he knew we were going to mention 4 or 5 guys as CORE and he needed to surpass it by adding two cores together to get his numbers up and at the same time remove some names off the mets list.
Neither Cano or Nova were part of the original core that got them all those Playoffs and WS appearances.
It comes down to tyhe guys who want to rebuild are only interested in MONEYBALLIN and want to wipe the slate clean because some moneyballer told them (and they bought it) thats what the Yankees did.
But none of the CORE teams did what they propose…
None of them found a core and then went buying….
They all went Buying and then found pieces they could call core along the way that won due to the goodness of players around that core.
As I noted above Jeter, Williams, Posada, Petitte and Rivera do squat without guys like Boggs, Wells, Clemmons, Meyers that were all bought and paid for in Free Agency.
Would the Braves have been the same team without Maddox?
How many WS does that Phillie core win without Lee?
Do the Red Sox win the WS without Manny?
NOPE!
CORE BULLSHIT I call it….
They really went to look for examples of teams who did it the way Oakland did (Saber/Moneyball) without using Oakland (who won nothing) and think that the fact they had 4 Young kids on thier squad is proof they built from within….
EVERY TEAM has 4 young kids on it’s squad but only the ones who go and pay for the BEST to complement them ever actually win anything.
It’s just a feeble attempt at using those teams as a trojan horse to infect the moneyball/Saber/Oakland philosophy to the masses…
I don’t know where Taskmaster came from but he is one of the worst sandy defenders here…
Even Jessup was never as bad as this guy.
Okay, so now is a fair review of the draft. I’ll compare the Mets to the Tigers since they were a team that Jon brought up. I’ll use the same draft years for each team(05-10), and I’ll count only starters or players that have had significant playing time.
Tigers: Maybin, Joyce, Avila, Boesch, Porcello, Dirks, Jacob Turner, Smyly, S Sizemore, Andrew Millier, Badenhop, Furbush.
Mets: Pelfrey, Niese, Thole, Parnell, Murphy, Joe Smith, Gee, Duda, Ike, Nieuwnhuis, Harvey, and Edgin.
Can you really saw the Tigers are THAT much better than the Mets? I don’t think so. In fact, I might even say the Mets are better.
Now if I use that same criteria for the Phillies drafts, here’s how they compare:
Phillies: Worley, Outman, Jason Donald, Drabek, Dominick Brown, Gose.
Mets: Pelfrey, Niese, Thole, Parnell, Murphy, Joe Smith, Gee, Duda, Ike, Nieuwnhuis, Harvey, and Edgin.
The Mets are much better, and it’s not even close!
Call me Mr. Negative because until I see a press release or news conference telling otherwise, I am going to say nothing has been official. These so called “sources” have been completely inaccurate, so why should we trust a guy like Francesca who has his sources?
Wright did NOT deny reports. This is from mets.com:
But even with hard numbers finally popping up around the industry, speculation still carried the day. Wright himself disputed the figures on Tuesday evening, issuing a statement to express his disappointment in “reports that I have read today which are inaccurate.”
Asked to clarify, Wright said in an email: “It was important to me from the very beginning that these negotiations remain confidential and private. I plan on sticking to that.”
A Mets spokesman said only that talks are “ongoing” and that the team would have no further comment.
Could it simply be that David senses an attempt to make him look as the bad guy, as management has done with Reyes? Is it that he has second thoughts about committing himself long-term to the Mets and thus management is trying to make it seem they are offering him the world and he is refusing to accept it – for reasons other than he sees the Mets no closer than that baby step he spoke about months back? I think Francesa is wrong about the offer being genuine and David saying what he did for posturing purposes for whatever is said in public has no bearing on what happens behind closed doors.
I like David very much but if he does want to keep the negotiations private I do have to ask why he felt motivated to issue a comment at all. Trying to place myself in his position and wondering if I would feel motivated to say anything more than “no comment” instead of denying the story altogether. Too many conspiracy theories so without being David I honestly cannot put myself in that position to see his perspective.
Maybe he was just blowing off steam.
Bourn would be nice but what Mets need now is a RH power bat for OF, not another LH bat in a lefty heavy lineup.
Getting Upton would of been nice but, I’m just guessing, the contract talks with David and RA need to get done before any money is allocated for other signings so Braves just went for the best RH bat available for their LH heavy lineup.
Hope Mets can find another similar type bat for OF.
Let’s see which BJ shows up in Atlanta, he never lived up to his hype anyway.
Well at least you know who leaked the rumor there was a deal…
Those guys everyone insists never leak to the press…
As for Wrights comments all he said was they were unfounded and no one knows what he was referring to…
The impending completion?
The Money terms?
The fact an offer was made at all?
Just one more Met who sees Wright as the leader…
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/niese_sees_david_as_wright_for_mets_IJC5NK01lBaAtCbrcq9wCL
Leader of what exactly?? A 4th place team? You’re a leader when you carry a team on your back, and you’re examplar doing it, he was a leader the first half last year according to you and wanna know why? The mets were winning, he was on fire so there, he was a leader all of the sudden. But then, Reality hits. he struggle in the second half (Again), the mets went into the oblivion and became irrelevant, then all of the sudden i did not hear once again how much of a leader he was. You guys really need to stop this nonesense. HE’s the longest tenure met on the team, THAT’S IT.
You still don’t get it do you, really, you are something else. It’s not about whether fans on a blog think he’s a leader or not, its what the actual players on the team think. The guys he suits up with that matter. Niese has come out and said it, Davis has said it and so has RA Dickey to name a few.
Name ONE player in the history of the game that has carried a bad team all the way to the world series by themselves. Just ONE.
Good players carry a team for a week or two, while other good players may have struggle a bit, they pick each other up, that’s why it’s called a team.
Wright was one of the best players in MLB the first half while everyone else on the team struggled, Duda, Davis etc…..so carrying a team nearly a half a season is not what an underrated player does.
You and your few buddies here are the only ones that think a career 300 hitter and 6 time All star is underrated. Every sports program last night was talking about this deal and every one reported that he deserves this deal and the Mets should lock him in.
John Hart – former GM said he’s worth every penny, the only, thing is the time involved, but it should be done anyhow.
So take your bias and go cry in the corner.
John Hart – former GM said he’s worth every penny”
Exactly.. That is why he’s no longer in baseball.. Tell me why he’s worth it. Tell me and us why he’s worth all the money the mets are stupidly throwing at him??? Again, please let us know.. Give me all accolades and numbers you want, and prove to me and everyone in here why he’s worth Miguel Cabrera money..
“Just one more Met who sees Wright as the leader…”
Yes…….but perhaps a leader by default on this team.
But coming from one of his peers says a whole lot more, and has a heck of alot more creditibility than all of his detractors here. Although I can see the detractors homing in like vultures on this article.
UH OH!!!
Russel Zanca is back David Wrights #1 POM POM holder….
Give me a D
Give me a A
Give me a V
Give me a I
Give me a D
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo DAVID!!!!!!
Russel Zanca
“Just one more Met who sees Wright as the leader…”
WELL here’s what the Owner of the Mets Team said regarding Wright…The man who will be paying him if he re-signs
“Really good kid. A very GOOD player. NOT A SUPERSTAR!!!!”
NOT A SUPERSTAR so why should he be paid like a SUPERSTAR???Huh, For sentimental reasons???
Ironic that owner said that yet is willing to pay him like a superstar.
By the way, as i said all along, the guy is nothing but a phony, he said all the right things to the media and the fans about wanting to be here, it’s not about the money yadayada, then the offered is made and not only he refused the offer, he counteroffer back, then once all the true reports come out about the ridiculous offer the mets made to him, he then comes out and denied the reports. Now we see reports are true and all of the sudden, he once again comes out and say i want negotiations private.. Ahhh, wonder why? Because he doesn’t want his exclusive fan base to know what a phony he is about being different than any other greedy ball player. the offer made is good enough, the guy is not worth $15 million let alone $18+ per year, yet the mets stupidly made that offer to him and here we still are. The guy is a phony big time, and if everyone with true baseball eyes don’t see this guy struggling to live up to that contract is fooling theyselves. He’s a big time choke artist who will struggle to live up to the contract and fans expectations.
For somebody who’s making more than $140 million you don’t expect 15-20 HR per season with 80 RBI, hell, Murphy can do 10-15 with 60-70 at 3% or even less of his salary…
We all appreciate today’s batshit crazy rant on why David Wright sucks. Funny how the men who actually play professional baseball with him see a reality in what he does and how he does it that is diametrically opposed to your alternate cognitive universe.
Carry on!
Am i wrong though? Funny how it’s a rant to you guys who love the guy, but everyone who knows baseball see this as a huge mistake and/or have said many times how vastly overrated this guy is.. $140 million + for a guy with warning track power? Give me a break.. Niese said he’s a leader, oh well.. Where were all those he’s a leader comment when he almost punch TC in the face? You guys are hillarious
HOFers, guys playing in the major leagues, ex players, all say he is the real deal, never once calling him overrated, so yeah you are wrong, I would take the opinion of a professional player over your irrational hatred of the guy any day.
Thats all fine and dandy but it is rare for other players to call one another over-rated especially in regards to a player signing a contract we saw the backlash that Reggie Jackson got for his comments regarding Gary Carter and other players.
This is what Wilpon said about David Wright
“Really good kid. A very GOOD player. NOT A SUPERSTAR!!!!”
So if he pays Wright like a superstar you can be assured that Fred Wilpon has no interest in building a winning team and just cares about pacifying fans so he can raise ticket prices.
Tho MF, see below my explanation for the guy.. Are you leading a DW fan club this morning? How can you sit and say to yourselve, we’re broke, but we need to sign this guy longeterm, what good is that gonna do? 4th place finishes? Because with him leading the team the past 4 years is what we’ve been at best.. Please wake up and smell the coffee dude, i get you like him and his bubbly personality, but the guy is just another ball player, he’s greedy, a phony who will say what his fans wanted to hear only to play hardball now in terms of his contract just to feed his ego of being the highest met paid of all times. Stop this nonsense man
“Because he doesn’t want his exclusive fan base to know what a phony he is about being different than any other greedy….”
Hi Alex,
But wouldn’t the terms of the contract became public anyway (even if rejected by David) so there is nothing he – or any player – can eventually hide from the fans anyway?
Of course, I am not justifying that any player gets what really deserves – my father (like many of our Dads) often worked two jobs. That included my dad driving a hack for a cab company long hours and often at night, getting robbed more than once and never getting paid what he deserved for all his hard labor (40% of the fare). That is why though I can’t be angry at any player trying to get as much as he can – for I don’t think any of us would be any different – what does tick me off are those like Pedro Martinez who talk about contract offers in terms of “respect” or the others who say they are not appreciated (BTW – I am using Pedro as an example because his words are the only ones that I can accurately attribute to any one individual).
And in being sympathetic to the players’s point of view, Mike Francesa pointed out that in 1966 when the recently deceased Marvin Miller took over as the union boss, the average ballplayer made “only” $19,000 a year, with the minimum salary being “only” $6,000. Well, the U.S. dollar is worth about eight times it was 46 years ago which means the average player made what today would be worth $152,000 a year and the rookie making minimum wage would be starting off at $48,000. Yes, that means having to contend with two places of residence but that also means having at least four extra months for working a second job which would offset the extra cost of dual residency.
Though the reserve clause was completely unfair and obviously kept the players at the mercy of the owners, I don’t think a 22 year old college graduate would gripe getting a job starting off at $48,000 a year or the average worker that of $152 grand annually – let alone for just eight months of work (spring training through the end of September). I also don’t think the average fan would be upset paying $20 for a reserved seat ticket ($2.50 then) or $28 for a box seat ($3.50 then) either.
So let’s be honest, David is part of an elite group – the professional athlete who has made it to the top professional level of his sport. The players and owners are now making a mint and the fans are more and more getting fleeced.
At least by us staying at home – beginning with Citi Field’s inaguarial season – we, as Met fans, forced ownership to lower those outrageous ticket prices somewhat. And with television rights, one can’t say that our personal boycotts caused the Wilpons to stop spending on good players. And with dynamic pricing, the Wilpons (like other teams) are hoping that with a team back in contention, we will pounce over each other to get the fewer tickets available for the game (ten thousand less seats than Shea Stadium, remember?). So in the long-term, the fans will still come up short.
Hi Joey D, point is, if the wilpons are doing this to bring people back to the seat, then why not go after hamilton and keep wright at 3rd base with his $16 million and wait for flores next year then? Signing wright does nothing but put money on wright’s pockets, if he’s thinking fans will be lining up to see wright lead a team to 4th place, hit 20 HR and fade out in the second half then he’s got another thing coming.
Hi Alex,
I wasn’t getting so much into the merits of the contract but rather the point that David shouldn’t be singled out for anything that any of us would not do in his position. That is why I added that nobody is worth making the money one is getting – whether it be in the field or in the owner’s pocket.
And I agree with you, just re-signing David (and R.A.) won’t bring any more people into the seats – at most, it would reduce the damage of the continued drop of empty ones projected for the upcoming season. If the Mets want to increase attendance they need to 1) go after more players like you suggest and 2) keep those ticket prices lower. But I don’t know how much damage the ownership has caused already and how the sudden about face in payroll would sit with fans after the dissappointments that approach caused the past two seasons.
Here’s wright’s numbers since a lot of you like numbers a lot the past 3 years:
Pre ASB is when he does most of his damage, he’s had a habit of having good first half and then fading away in the second half, here are his numbers:
312 BA 31 HR 142 RBI 60 DBLS 4 TRPLS 401 OBP 520 SLUG in 773 At bats.
Now, here’s wright in the second half, which is not a good sign because most likely, this is what he’ll become as a player down the road for us:
258 BA 33 HR 115 RBI 40 DBLS 2 TRPLS 329 OBP 440 SLUG in 784 At bats
See the splits and how he’s another player in the second half? Even the numbers don’t help this guy, and if anybody with baseball knowledge tell me he’s worth it, should quit watching baseball at once. Other than him pretending to be nice i don’t see what else is to like about this guy in his game, he’s a 290-300 hitter with warning track power more than anything who will drive 75-90 runs per year with above avg defense at 3rd base. How’s a guy like that worth $18+ Million per year? Can anybody actually explain that to me? He’s not worth the money noe the trouble, trade this guy now before it’s too late
Oh, so now you’re a second-half stats guy? And nothing else about the game and who plays it is of any importance. Since every part of the season matters, it would be great if we had a second half guy, then, to compliment Wright. Since we know he’s a half-superstar, we just need another to complete the picture, and give us the half who carries us into the playoffs. Ever consider it in those terms?
Any time you’re willing to give us your plan for who replaces him at 3rd, I’ll be interested.
First let me preface this by saying that my position on David Wright has not changed and I think it will be a huge mistake for the team to sign him for the kind of $$$ we’ve been hearing. My position on this issue is well documented in all of my posts over the last couple of months.
What I’m trying to make some kind of sense of, and cannot understand, is why the hatred for David Wright runs so deep. I understand that this is a blog and we can all say just about anything we wish without being censured or banned…….and that’s fine and the way it should be. But why do the rants on this man transcend baseball? Why have commenters resorted to personal attacks on the man’s character? Why are we hearing mocks on his physical attributes? If the names he was called were just baseball related, like “Choke Artist”, “Mr. Unclutch”, “Mr. June” I could not only understand, but agree with them all. But when they start mocking the man’s smile, dimples, calling him “Golden Boy” or “Wonder Boy”, and yes I’ve even read where he was a “NYC Soccer Mom’s Metrosexual”. This runs deeper than baseball folks. This is clearly of a prejudicial nature and I’m groping at straws to make some sense of it all.
Is it that he articulates well with the media, thinks before he speaks and tries his best not to embarass himself or the organization? Well, thats not such a bad thing….is it?
Is it that he obviously was raised the right way, comes from a good home and family? Well that shouldn’t be such a bad thing either.
Is it that his father was a decorated law enforcement officer in Virginia? Heck, I don’t see anything bad in that.
Is it that he didn’t grow up in an impoverished Latin American country? Hey he had no choice in where he was born and raised, so I don’t think that should be held against him.
Is it that he didn’t grow up in an impoverished ghetto in the USA? Heck, no choice there either.
Is it that he is perceived as the consummate “Company Man”? Well maybe, because nobody likes a company man.
Is it because he gave of himself to the fans (especially children) with countless hours of autograph signings, more than any other Met I’ve seen in the club’s 52 year history? Well it certainly shouldn’t be that.
Well now that I’ve eliminated just about all of the above, CAN SOMEONE TELL ME JUST WHAT IT IS?
There is only one more thing I can think of…….perhaps all the anger the ranters feel towards the owners is now being directed toward Wright because THEY are about to pay him way more than he’s worth. If this is it, he’s still catching a bad rap.
You shouldn’t worry about what others are saying about wright. again, you said it yourself, it is a blog and people will have different opinions towards teams, pleayers, coaches etc.. But with that being said, You should look at it from both ends, we (I include myself) call the guy for what he is, he has been called a choke artist by players (Hamels, and he was dead on), he HAS choke in big spots hence the name choker, so not sure what the problem is with that, but in your little post i don’t see anything regarding people calling him good looking, beautiful dimples, guy i want my daughter to marry amongst other things too, so if you’re gonna repriment those who “Attack” him, then condemend those who give him praises for non baseball related stuff as welll.
Hamels never called David Wright a choke artist, now you are just making up lies.
Hamels said the NY METS chocked their season, after being put on the spot on a radio show, again at the time he said NY METS, not just David Wright, that team included your saviors Beltran, Delgado and Reyes.
Anyone that reads this site knows you hate Wright, but come with facts please, not lies.
IMO, what it is, is irrational.
Hi
MetWatchman:
The reason is simple. DW is over-hyped so much by the NY media. He is not the second coming of Joe Dimaggio. He is an allstar who has been inconsistent. Still he is offered FMV.
The Mets have offered Wright an 8-year, $140 million dollar deal says Andy Martino of the Daily News. That offer includes his 2013 option, so essentially it is a 7-year, $124 million dollar deal being offered to the star third baseman”
STILL TOO MUCH…. Trade this guy or this franchise will regret this move even more than the jason bay and perez contracts… COMBINED!
Do you realize he is already on the books next year for 16 mill?The contract comes to a little under 18 mill a year and it can be paid in all different knids of ways.(back loaded, deferred, etc)You and I have no idea how that will be worked out.You have admitted he is an all star type player, not a superstar.He could go free agent and sign for more with a number of teams in 2014.So all these teams GM’s are idiots and you are the smart one?Thanks for the free entertainment Alex.
Not a doubt in my mind that if this was Wright’s FA year, there would be at least 4 GMs lining up to offer him that and more.
Are you serious!?!?!?!? Right now can you name those 4 teams please? or you’re just going by the fact you like the guy because of his good looks and his nice dimples
Come on, Alex…you really aren’t this ignorant to make such a blatantly sexist remark.
All because the Mets are about to extend a player you apparently loath.
It’s just baseball dude, chill out.
OH, so it’s not sexist when females come here and say how good looking he is? Which has NOTHING to do with baseball yet that’s ok to say it.. It is baseball, something i’ve come to the fruition you know nothing about…
Reference one post where I commented on Wright’s looks. Just one. I’ll be waiting….
Here, Alex I’ll help you out with this one:
srt November 20, 2012 at 10:27 am
I was just watching a workout video that David posted on youtube and he just looked so dreamy. Those crystal blue eyes just look right through me. Oh and watching his dimples flutter as he is doing squats just makes me want to run into the kitchen and fix my man a sandwich.
Hey Alex,
My wife has a “Mrs. Wright” baseball cap and jersey shirt, thinks he’s gorgeous too and wants him to stay a Met – but I don’t think that is sexist on her part more than it is my wife having to instead look at me day in and day out!
So after 36 years of marriage, she at least deserves a pass on this one. LOL
The difference is SRT is discussing baseball in a very thoughtful and articulate way and because Alex has a problem with her he throws out a sexist remark that is unwarranted. Even if SRT does thing DW is dreamy, she doesn’t bring that kind of element into the discussion, she talks baseball like the rest of us and it’s BS for him to go there.
I dont think it was sexist comment…I dont see where he discriminates against her for thinnking he is dreamy…He merely states that it is one of the reasons she likes him so much as a player and thinks he deserves that much money. Its no different than the sentimental male Mets fan whom doesnt want Wright to go because he remembers when Wright was 1st called up and love that Wright is a Good guy off the field. Doesnt have anything to do with how he is performing but we wont bash him for being a SENTIMENTALIST!
And you’d be lying to yourself if you said that there arent a lot of female Mets fans whom love Wright for his looks.
I never heard any female talk about Mo Vaughns cute dimples though o_O LMAO!
But she has never stated that is a reason why he likes him. She keeps to baseball he didn’t that’s why it is sexist.
And there is nothing wrong with fans liking a player for this reasons, it’s probably the only reason why my wife will deal with watching baseball. But that is not the reason she is here, she is here because she is a true baseball fan. She just happens to have a different opinion than others and others can’t handle it, so they bring the conversation to a place where it doesn’t need to go.
Phillies, Braves, Angels, Yankees for a start.
“He could go free agent and sign for more with a number of teams in 2014.”
Whenever “Bidding” is introduced into the equation the value of the product goes up automatically.
Unfortunately for Wright this isnt 2014 and many things can happen from now the 2013 season to 2014. He could get injured, have a bad year that will reduce his price tag or he can put up another solid season and be 1 more year older.
The fact is his value will never again be higher than it is now. Anything can happen but the odds are against him
Leroy, Only his legion of fans, the people who see wright and root for him instead of the team are the ones thinking this is somehow a good deal, and that he somehow is worth all that money… It’s getting real sad when i have to read how 4 GM’s will pay him more than what’s been offered. I think if any GM offers a guy like wright anything over $140 million should be fired in the spot… a 290-300 hitter with a bad back, only warning track power, an above avg glove at 3rd base and horrible running the bases with belw avg speed is not worth $140 MILLION DOLLARS!
I wonder when he gets this new $100M deal will he start to hustle or is that still below him.
David Wright – on the open market – would easily receive an 8-year, 168 million $ sort of contract from someone.
Take a look at the free agent markets for 2013/2014 and 2014/2015 and you won´t see many encouraging names with Jacoby Ellsbury and Robinson Cano probably the only other impact bats along with Wright that project to be available at a still modest age around 30/31.
And since 3bmen generally age better than 2bmen or CFers, Wright probably would be the # 1 free agent a year from now. And please stop about the freakish back injury of 2011. There were no lingering effects in 2012 and this was basically a broken bone and not a structural problem. Look at how well other 3bmen have aged – even with nagging injuries here or there: Chipper Jones, Aramis Ramirez, Adrian Beltre, even until last year Scott Rolen. If you ever want to give a “2nd generation” contract to a player – you better do it with your homegrown star 3bman.
So, while I don´t think he´ll milk the Mets for every dollar, he also shouldn´t be expected to leave 50+ million $ on the table as a “fan” to get this over with quickly.
If a “normal” employee is making 55 thousand $ per year and knows that the demand for his type of job will enable him to get a job at 70 thousand $ for someone else next year, wouldn´t you at least think long & hard before you accept a 65 thousand $ per year extension from your current employer where you´re very well liked and respected by colleagues and you like it yourself ?
Ultimately, I believe Wright will end up signing a 7-year extension worth a tad above 18 million $, to make it 8-years, 144 million $ or so with the 2013 option. That´s basically an Adrian Gonzalez type contract minus a 10 % home team discount for an Adrian Gonzalez caliber player.
For what it’s worth, supposedly Buster Olney believes Wright will take the deal, basing it on Juan Gonzalez’s blunder in the 90s.
Does David currently have a no-trade clause in his contract?
If not, it is possible that it is not the money that is at issue as it having that clause added to his 2013 contract extension. Without such protection David could still be dealt to any team the Mets desire with that new contract keeping him stuck with a team he has no desire to play for. WIth Sandy giving no guarantee about David’s future with the Mets even if signed, it would be in Wright’s best interest to sign nothing if management is unwilling to guarantee his not being traded before his 10/5 status kicks in.
So it might not be all about money as it is David’s future being taken out of his control by the Mets. Let’s face it, though unlikely, he could be traded to Cleveland. The no trade clause would be irrelevant in any new contract for by the time it kicks in David would already be a 10/5 man.
Otherwise, it could simply be that he hasn’t seen enough commitment by the front office to improve the club which no money can compensate for. So if he rejects such an offer as being reported, it could make him look bad simply because he is not the one to badmouth his team and teammates as the reason he didn’t re-sign.
If the Mets are throwing a contract like this to him I am sure adding a no-trade clause to the first year of the contract is no biggie. Winter meetings are also a couple days away, think they may want to use the contract signing as a show?
Hi SG,
It could be a biggy if Sandy’s plans for the future do not include both David and a big multi-year contract. If David does want to remain a Met, Sandy would still be able to negate that without the clause added in. Thus, a stalemate.
Just a guess on my part that Sandy has the intention of signing David just to guarantee to other clubs they will not be stuck with just a one year player if Sandy is playing hardball for top prospects or upcoming players the other party would part with on with that type of assurance.
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For all we know, Sandy could also be sending out feelers to other clubs as to how much a contract they would be willing to accept in a trade – with the other players involved already agreed upon.
So if David wants to remain a Met, the no-trade clause for this season is pertinant. If he has hesitations about the future of the club, then it would be in his best interest not to sign anything – which I’m sure the Mets will twist it to sound as if it was over money.
“Otherwise, it could simply be that he hasn’t seen enough commitment by the front office to improve the club which no money can compensate for. So if he rejects such an offer as being reported, it could make him look bad simply because he is not the one to badmouth his team and teammates as the reason he didn’t re-sign”.
THIS^^^^^ It’s what I’ve been saying all along. I mean its not like they’re likely to go out and start spending wildly to improve the club after inking Wright. So just what are their plans? I’m sure Wright wants to know even more than we do…..lol
This would be understandable IF Sandy didnt say publicaly that the 1st priority in the off-season is to extend Wright and/or Dickey then make moves to improve the team.
Knowing this Wright should have said he would wait to see the improvements before inking a deal with the Mets. Or they can agree on a deal that Wright doesnt sign until he sees the improvements made by Sandy.
All Wright has said NOW is that his agents and the Mets are working out a deal. He hasnt said he wants to see improvement during this off-season. He said he was upset that the news leaked about his potential deal. Sandy has stated he wants a deal done BEFORE the winter meetings so he knows what he has to work with.
To believe it is anything but MONEY!!!!!! Is a mistake,
ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!! plain and simple.
Wright has more than enough respect from the fanbase that if he says “Hey im not willing to sign until I see this team upgrade talent etc” and his fans would back him…Hell even Mets fans like myself whom think they should trade him will back him. BUT he wont do that…
A player like Chipper Jones would definitely hold his team at gun point to improve or risk losing him. Thats why some fans dont view Wright as a leader he doesnt stand up he has NO VOICE on this team…Just a FACE thats why he is called the FACE OF THE FRANCHISE and NOT titled THE LEADER OF THE TEAM. Leaders take a stand and have a voice, Dickey showed leadership by stating hey I want to see what happens with Wright and see improvements on the team before I commit and he also states he wants to remain a met due to loyalty but he wants to see improvements before he commits
You know what will be interesting to see as the off season progresses BBLB is what free agents will be signed for the total money spent on Wright if Mets do sign him.
So far BJ Upton signed for about 75 millon and Ryan Madson at 6 million. Thats 81 million so far if you spent 140 million on Wright than that still leaves you about 60 million! AND that’s not even including any trades!
Not that i would want BJ Upton because i’m no fan of his and would prefer another solution in the OF to him – preferably Bourne but i’m just throwing the numbers out there. It’s just amazing how well the Mets can do, how much they can just change the face of the organization and move on. This is a golden opportunity for the Mets to really make wholesale changes, improve the club immensely and start contending again.
But NO, instead of taking advantage of a golden opportunity to improve we’re going to be taken advantage of by the golden boy – not that it’s his fault either because who would blame him since it’s all about the money and ONLY about the money.
would love to hear another option besides extending him.
So you think he has no voice on this team, you know this, you are in the clubhouse? Where in the lineup do you hit?
Despite numerous players saying that he is the man in the clubhouse, you are calling them liars and saying he has no voice on this team. Cool
This really is becoming a soap opera, you can walk away from this site for months, come back and the same people are saying the same crap every day.
Nats just grabbed D. Span
Good. Now I can stop hearing about him.
Dont worry so much guys. Andres Torres will always be there in case we need a backup plan.
I thought the plan was to backup all along?
As in Backup from contention in the MLB! lol
You need guys like Torres to do that!
Believe me, I’m not the least bit worried about Denard Span
please trade wright and get a couple of good prospects/he is not a superstar,why are we wasting time negotiating for a slightly above average player,when other teams like the braves get upton for five and 75million great deal for them/but no we must overpay for the golden boy,please i can not take anymore/need i say CHOKE,CHOKE,CHOKE,CHOKE AND MORE CHOKE 20 HR AND 93 RBI THAT IS NOT WORTH A 8 YEAR CONTRACT TRADE THIS GUY AND GET IT OVER WITH/ LETS MOVE ON.
OK.We trade Wright and put Danny (Hands of Stone) Murphy at 3rd base next year and bat hin 3rd.I will be generous and say he plays 153 games, bats .306 with 23 home runs and 93 Rbi’s with a .386 oba.Don’t you think he is going to have to be paid some big bucks to stay with the Mets?Or do we just trade or not sign every player on the team who has a good year?.Teams win rings who have a combination of the best players.If we move every good player we have for “prospects” how do ever win anything?Did the Yankees get rid of Jeter, Bernie Williams or Posada in their prime years?With all due respect, most of you guys are totally clueless.Especially Alex who said up above, Wright fans root for David, not the team.What are you drinking, man??
If David doesn’t take this offer, I have to think the organization did not convince him they want to win soon.
Also, I wouldn’t trade him for prospects, I’d only trade him for major league ready players.
You are echoing my point.If they are major league ready. they will have to be paid a good deal of money either close or similar or more than the 18 million paid to Wright in 2014 to stay.
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It’s official, according to Rubin. http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/8693472/source-says-david-wright-agrees-largest-contract-new-york-mets-history
so in a year or two when everyone is clamoring for a top player we can remind everyone that they do not have the money because they spent it on a less than top player. same old mets. mediocrity here we stay.
Hi jdon,
Why should that be? Although the Mets have been acting like a small market team, this is New York, the biggest baseball market in the nation. Re-signing David should not preclude a New York team from going after other good ones that could fit in and repair some of the many more holes Sandy has created. As many have said, that further investment in the team could be made up for with higher attendance and television ratings by renewed interest.
Or if it’s instead a situation (as I have suggested) of the Mets unable to take on more contracts due to limited contingency funds or cash flow then the owners should sell the team instead of selling the fans short for by doing the latter, they are sure to wind up doing the former.
Hello Joey–
and the interest is going to be renewed because DW was re-signed? I don’t think so. The advantage of re-signing David, if there is any, is to keep fans from going away. That will not increase profit, only stem the bleeding. I do not believe in 7 year contracts for 30 year olds. I also do not believe in long term contracts for guys who have shown wear and tear on their talent base. And I do not believe in long term contracts for a team with the financial underpinnings that the Wilpons bring to the show. I too wish they would sell. A New York team should be able to sniff at a contract like DW’s. But the Wilpons will not sell. The mets are no better today than they were yesterday, and financially last year was a bad one. Time to re-tool. Newness might bring the fans out. Same old same old will not.
Hi jdon,
Sorry I didn’t repeat what I said in early posts – it’s not the money that David can bring in as it indeed is the continued decrease in revenue that would occur if he didn’t.
As mention to Alex:
“And I agree with you, just re-signing David (and R.A.) won’t bring any more people into the seats – at most, it would reduce the damage of the continued drop of empty ones projected for the upcoming season. If the Mets want to increase attendance they need to 1) go after more players like you suggest and 2) keep those ticket prices lower. But I don’t know how much damage the ownership has caused already and how the sudden about face in payroll would sit with fans after the dissappointments that approach caused the past two seasons.”