Comments on: At Least 12 Teams Would Be Interested In Trading For Dickey

By: mattimar

mattimar — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:36:15 +0000

Cannot trade Wright. Let Santana pitch a bit and if he does well then trade him. Cannot trade Niese (they will be looking for a young left hander immediately after trading him). Not sold on Tejada, certainly not sold on him as a lead off hitter. This organization is a mess.

By: pain

pain — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:10:51 +0000

if the Mets are going to be a future contender it’s time to trade Wright, Dickey, Santana and Niese. These chips will build you a solid balanced team going forward

By: Sach

Sach — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 03:33:58 +0000

I agree with Matt Cerrone in that R.A. Dickey and Jon Niese are tied to one another. If Sandy can sign The Dickster to a reasonable contract extension of just 2 guaranteed years because of his age with a vestible option for a 3rd year based on his IP in 2015 at 12MM per this offseason then I think Jon Niese is tradeable this offseason for some young starting OF piece. The way I see it if the Dickster re-ups and Niese is traded this offseason, the top of the Mets SP rotation starting some time in the middle of next season and moving forward sets up as Dickey, Harvey and Wheeler. Im obviously not counting Santana here. In this case scenerio, I think Niese becomes a fairly expensive ( for the Mets ) 5MM in 2014 and 7MM in 2015 4 SP. I think most are overvaluing Niese because he’s a young, cost- controlled LH SP. Niese to myself has already reached his ceiling- a credible but inconsistent 3SP that has averaged only 5.96 IP per start in his big league career so far. I also don’t think its such a wise idea to have all young SPs in your SP rotation without Dickey and obviously Johan moving forward. I like the idea of the soild, steady innings eating ace SP atop the 2 young guns- Harvey and Wheeler moving forward. As for the only LHP in the Mets SP rotation with respect to Niese, to my knowledge TC likes Darin Gorski the little he’s seen of him and most likely Sandy is going to protect Gorski on the 40 man roster. And its not a stretch of the imagination at all to feel Gorski within 2 years might develop into a credible 4SP in the bigs.

By: Bernard Larsen

Bernard Larsen — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 03:05:22 +0000

Trade Dickey now. If you wait until during the season when the METS are god awfully terrible he will probably not be performing at the level he did last year and we’ll get less. Don’t make him a qualifying offer than hope to get a draft pick because you’re going to get someone too far away from helping the ball club in next 2-3 years. Now we could probably get someone’s prospects (probably two top 20 from a team) and a somewhat serviceable major league player.

By: Hitman

Hitman — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 01:46:06 +0000

Try this one:

Santana (eat $15 million), Mazzoni, Pill, Duda, and Den Dekker for Hellickson and Jennings?

By: nymess

nymess — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:23:23 +0000

If the mets find themselves unable to resign david wright and/ or RA Dickey, I would explore the following trades:

RA Dickey to the D-backs for one of their top lefthanders: Chafin or Corbin along with Parra and another piece.

Wright to the Bluejays for D’arnaud, Justin Nicolino, and either Gose or Marisnick

Flip Duda to the Rays for Mikie Mahtook and/ or Enny Romero.

These three trades would address all of the mets’ major holes: catching with D’arnuad, the outfield short term with Parra (who would make a great 4th outfielder when then younger guys are ready) and long term with Mahtook and one or the blue jays, and give us 3 lefthanded pitching prospects.

By: Shawn

Shawn — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:19:23 +0000

Dickey by far. I thought they should have traded him at the trade deadline since the Mets are rebuilding. He’s a great guy and all can he repeat another season even close to what he had in 2012. Niese is still young and would fit in well with their group upcoming starters ….. Harvey, Wheeler..etc..

By: Just_Da_Damaja

Just_Da_Damaja — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 23:55:58 +0000

Cone was traded b/c he was entering his free-agent year…and the mets wouldnt be able to afford him…

Same with Reyes….

Same with Strawberry….

Same with Wright….

Same with Fonzie….

Almost every home-grown player we ever groom…we let go because we magically cant afford him…

the answer?

buy out free-agent years early…add on club options….make the tough call when players are 35….NOT when they are 29

We should’ve locked up 5 players by now…

Tejada
Murphy
Duda
Ike
Niese

we only did 1…

By: Just_Da_Damaja

Just_Da_Damaja — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 23:45:27 +0000

Keeping Dickey = poor attendance in 2013-2014-2015-2016…

Trading Dickey for a top CF or SS prospect = poor attendance in 2013…with the possibility that the prospect(s) we traded for produces results in 2014….

Ditto for Wright…

And what the Wilpons DONT tell you is that they have a sh*tload of deferred contracts they have to pay, without the Madoff accounts they invested their contracts in…

so when they say the payroll is 90 mil…they are NOT counting the 30-40 mil in backpay they have to give Beltran, Santana, Martinez, Glavine, Saberhagen, Bonilla, Wagner, etc, etc

they promised to pay those guys back WITH INTEREST

and they never tell u about that…but i am for damn sure they have that on their books…

they cant tell u that b/c it just highlights the fact that they have been riding on Bernie Madoff money for decades….they wanna brush that under the rug as much as possible…

thats why they will lie and say they owe Johan Santana 31 mil this year….thats BS….

They owe Santana 25 mil…and 5.5 is deferred…so its really 20 mil..the buyout is null and void if they trade Santana, the team that gets him executes the buyout….

its possible if the mets trade Santana in July,, they only pay him 12.5 mil this year…

but Sandy will still tell u they owe him 31 mil…

but WONT tell you they owe Santana 5.5 mil WITH INTEREST for the next 7 years….

DITTO Carlos Beltran (2004 ) …Saberhagen (1995)…Bonilla (2000) …etc…etc….

smoke and mirrors brother…u gotta do the research to see past this attorney’s BS…

By: GameGeezer

GameGeezer — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 23:36:03 +0000

Except all his really stellar years were after he left the Mets and was with the Giants, Houston and the Dodgers. I also seem to remember him being ostracized by his teammates on the Mets for being a bad tempered prima donna. So I still think holding on to Cone would have been the better choice.

By: Heybatter

Heybatter — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 23:30:49 +0000

I disagree….they should have traded him yesterday! LoL

By: Guy

Guy — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:09:09 +0000

Dickey, he’s older and Niese is a young lefthander which aren’t easy to come by.

By: jerseymet

jerseymet — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 21:50:16 +0000

Trade them both but bundle them with bad contracts eg Bay, Santana and Francisco. Sandy is about cutting costs. Get it over with.

By: Barry Duchan

Barry Duchan — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 21:32:22 +0000

Trading David Cone actually got the Mets a young player who is probably a future Hall of Famer in Jeff Kent.who wasn’t even the main piece coming back to the Mets.

By: Ray Savage

Ray Savage — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 21:01:30 +0000

Trading Niese makes no sense. Not only is he young and left handed, but there is not one other left handed option in their farm system. How could they possibly replace him?

By: Metstheory22

Metstheory22 — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:29:20 +0000

Dickey would be my choice to trade as he is ALREADY 38 and by time we get better he could done. Sell high on him and maybe get a good prospect or ready player for him.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:16:55 +0000

“A – The mets are not going to be able to afford Dickey after this season…..”

The solution to that problem is to find a way to get more fans to go to the park not trade Dickey who will have the opposite affect!

These “Can’t Afford” excuses are not going to be solved by letting players go or trading them for cheap kids.

It’s just going to cause you to say the same thing every year for a decade until there is no one left to trade and are forced to spend money to get the fans back.

They should get off thier 100Mil target and at minimum move the target to 110Mil.
Use the 10 Mil to get a good OFer who might give fans hope and inspire them to go see the team so they can afford keeping the good players they have next year and beyond!

By: Matt

Matt — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:16:54 +0000

Wow…a bunch of teams interested in acquiring a Cy Young candidate who is making $5 million this season…great reporting.

By: Hodges14

Hodges14 — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:58:41 +0000

It’s a big risk keeping him. What if he has a mediocre year, will the Mets give him a qualifying offer of $14.5 million? His trade value goes from getting two great prospects to one good prospect if he’s traded mid season. I’ll respectfully agree to disagree with you. I would see this is a failure, just like not trading Hairston at the trade deadline.

By: TX

TX — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:56:58 +0000

A – why? Santana and Bay’s monetary obligations are no longer there.