17
2012
Yankees GM Shoots Down A-Rod To Marlins Rumor
An article by Hojo's Mojo
Yankees general manager Brian Cashman has denied a published report that suggested the Yankees have held discussions with the Miami Marlins about a potential Alex Rodriguez trade. ”It’s not true”, Cashman told MLB.com.
Earlier today, Keith Olbermann reported that the Yankees are willing to pay nearly all of the $114 million dollars that is still owed to Rodriguez through the 2017 season. Olbermann also added that in return for Heath Bell they would consider picking up less salary.
One thing to note is that Rodriguez has a full no-trade clause and must approve any deal. However, Rodriguez does live in Miami during the offseason.
In other crosstown news, Derek Jeter will undergo surgery on his fractured left ankle on Saturday. The operation will be performed by Dr. Robert Anderson and Jeter is expected to be out for four or five months while recovering from the operation.
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ARod to the Marlins? HAHAHAHA – gotta love the off season rumors.
Next thing you know, you’ll be hearing how the Dodgers will be interested in his services. Stay tuned.
What a joke of a rumor. The Yankees will be strangled with this contract until 2017 when it runs out. Chances of anyone taking him are slim to none. There could be one or two teams that think a resurgence is possible and give A-Rod a shot, but the Yankees will be paying the entire contract for sure. I know there are still some bonehead owners that do the absurd as evidenced in the Pujols contract and what the Dodgers just did mid-season. But for the most part I see the game changing, with owners being shrewder and more responsible. Hey if Marvin Miller were still around today we’d probably be seeing charges of collusion already.
The joke is that in 13 drafts, Cashman has failed to get either a SS or a 3B capable of replacing Derek Jeter or Alex Rodriguez…
the Yankees have had almost 700 draft picks since 1999….
Not 1 1B
Not 1 SS
Not 1 3B
Not 1 C
Not 1 RF
only Bret Gardner….Austin Jackson….have made even a dent in the major leagues…
thats laaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
They have done a great job at drafting a bullpen though
Phil Coke, who shut them down twice in this series was drafted by NYY with Cashman as GM
Tyler Clippard as well, David Robertson, Joba Chamberlain also Phil Hughes & Ian Kennedy
They did draft Chris Davis of Baltimore but he didn’t sign with them.
A-Rod has 5 years and 120 mil left…
If the Yanks pick up the tab for 60…
the other team is paying A-Rod on a 5 year 60 mil deal…
thats not bad at all considering…
A-Rod has 5 years and 120 mil left…
Yes…thats a fact. But does A-Rod have anything left?
thats not bad at all considering…
Considering what? Considering he may have something left? And for how much longer?
My point is he might just be one of those players that loses it suddenly and goes down hill real fast. I don’t see a team jumping right now even if the Yanks pay 50% . Too risky right now. Lets see how he starts off his 2013 season.
if the team that acquires A-Rod for 12 mil per season, also be able to have insurance pick up the tab when he is injured, than it’s def a win-win for both parties.
it all depends on his hip…i remember having this argument with a Yankee fan back in 2008 when A-Rod opted out…David Wright said he would’ve been willing to move to another position to accomodate A-Rod…
i said…A-Rod has the same hip condition Delgado had….and it knocked out Delgado in 2009..
its a degenerative condition…it will never get better and only get worse….how the Yankees ignored that is beyond me…
the real culprit is Brian Cashman who even with an ownership willing to spend overslot, failed to produce a 3B in the draft or Latin America in 13 drafts…
the fact that the Yankees may have 2 holes in the OF, 2 holes in the infield, plus a stadium that caters to left handed hitters does make them an interesting trade partner of ours
One of Capt Kirk, Reese Havens, Jordany Valdespin, Lucas Duda, or Daniel Murphy in exchange for some minor league bullpen arms would be a good move for the mets and the Yanks
What we lack in our minor league system is bullpen arms…trying to convert Mejia and Familia into relievers and then back to starters is only get those arms damaged.
What we do have is an overabundance of left-handed hitters…something that works very well in Yankee Stadium…
just a thought
“if the team that acquires A-Rod for 12 mil per season, also be able to have insurance pick up the tab when he is injured, than it’s def a win-win for both parties.”
Insurance companies have stopped covering long term deals. They now do them in 2 year increments at their own discretion. If a team wants a long term deal or a lot of money for an older player fully insured, they have to do it themselves.
Not only that but my impression of a deal like this is that the trading team would actually be sending money to the acquiring team who assumed all of that players contract. Thus the contract status would not change and it would still be a contract no insurance company would touch.
Actually i just looked it up…the yankees have insurance that pays reimburses them for any time A-Rod spends on the DL
It must be self insured. The Mets did that with Beltran’s contract.
Damaja — Not bad considering it’s not your money!!!! LOL.
Considering the millions that the Wilpons made in investing deferred salary from player’s contracts into Bernie Madoff accounts…technically…its not THEIR MONEY either !
No more it is. But class envy is alive and well here on MMO.
How ?
The wilpons have no class
I have no envy
it’s only 24 mill a year (only in yankee terms). even at the luxury tax cap (190?) they could write him off, and still have 166 on players on the field.
Huge deals hurt less when you have the flexibility to eat them if need be.
Why are we discussing A-Rod?
well, after 10 threads in one day about Angel Pagan, you run out of things to say.
LOL
Off the top of my head, I can think of 10 Mets related items to be discussing that doesn’t include a trade with ARod. Not-going-to-happen.
And even though we can’t deny he is a talent player, who knows how much of his hitting performance was tainted by steroids – and just like it was with Jason Giambi (admittedly not on the same playing field with ARod) – the Steinbrenners could feel they got burned personally by those un-earned heroics believing he would break his fellow steroid user’s all-time record while wearing the pinstripes? It’s not the money – it’s about being taken for suckers. While he was producing, they wouldn’t do anything but once in a decline, they certainly didn’t feel the need to give him the Derek Jeter treatment.
I remember a game in the old Stadium where he hit a home run that went up half way up the back wall of the old visiting team’s bullpen – the most tremendous shot I ever saw. No way he was not juiced up to have done that.
The Yankees had no problem with Steroid players when RoidRage Roger was tossing bats at Mike Piazza….and they brought him back 2 more times after that….
Nor did they have a problem when Andy Pettitte came back to town….
Hell, they could’ve released…Mr. Golden thong Giambi after he got caught..
Nope…Yanks dont care if u do crack, weed, roids or whatever…
Just Win Baby !!!
I doubt teams are totally unaware of PED use. There is too much money involved to not do due diligence, especially with players who broke in during the 90s.
My comment as to Joel Sherman’s article in todays NY Post about A-Rod and the Yankee’s very possible divorce. Jose Reyes and Health Bell’s contracts equal exactly A-Rods contract both 114 M . If yankees include their number one prospect Gary Sanchez C. (who A-Rod praised in ST) a deal wirth Miami where A-Rod is from, would be a strong possibility since Reyes does have baseball value. Maybe Reyes back IN NY as soon as next season. Also Jeff Lorie loves A-Rod and wanted him last year to open new stadium and Jeff Lorie has no love Joe Giradi.
Could happen, I am not sure that helps the Marlins rebuild in any way. At this point I can’t see how Arod sells more tickets than Reyes. IF they were to trade Reyes the most likely would look for prospects but the problem is very few teams would trade for Reyes’ contract.
What we do know is that the Marlins signed Jose with every intention of trading him later.
I initially thought this trade ARode talk was just media stirring the pot.
But I’ve since changed my mind.
There’s a reason someone is leaking a story about a ‘casual’ conversation the Yankees had with Miami about ARod in ST…especially now.
Plus, I found Ian O’Connor’s article below interesting. He makes some good points. Might be time to move on, for both sides. Not sure how feasible it is but it certainly sounds like the Yankees would like this divorce. If yes, it’s all going to depend on ARod and his no trade clause.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/8518115/mlb-playoffs-2012-new-york-yankees-alex-rodriguez-leave-town-quietly
Throw in David Adams at 2B…Gary Sanchez at C….Mason Williams at OF…along with Alex Rodriguez…
in exchange for Jose Reyes and Heath Bell…
thats a pretty decent trade…
The Yankees get a setup man when Soriano leaves this off-season…and a backup in case Mariano still has issues…
The Yankees get their replacement for Jeter…
The Yankees get rid of a headcase in A-Rod
The Marlins get to stock up in 4 different positions for the same price they are paying now..
The Marlins get the home-town kid
The hometown kid gets to play out of the spotlight…surrounded by some good hitters…
Just a thought…
Again, if the yankees are willing to pay a good portion of his salary, why not.. He’d be better than anything the marlins put at 3rd base, and with reyes and stanton in the lineup where he clearly doesn’t have to be the man i think it might work for him. hell, had we traded wright last year and kep reyes i’d be campaigning for this guy harded than someone i knew campaign for sandy alderson to have his good day..
Unnecessary last line but why would that ever stop you from turning every post into the same thing?
Back to your real point, it really wouldn’t matter because Reyes will be out of town in a year or two anyway. Arod in his current state unless he goes back on the juice? The Yanks got themselves a problem.
I heard on a sports show that this is A-Rod stuff is bubbling to the surface because the fan base is getting restless and they are losing the fan base that can afford to pay the “elite” seat prices. If any team in professional sports and especially baseball can “eat” salary it is the Yankees. Let’s face one key fact this Yankee team is OLD! I think their done for this season and they will have to break the team down and retool. Just look at these guys, Pettit, A-Rod, Jeter, and Rivera key players at the end of their careers. The 2013 Yankees will look a lot different than the team we see today. I’ll close by saying something I said before. Is David Wright their third baseman of the future?
Based on your last sentenceI: Are Brett Gardner OF and Gary Sanchez C. future Mets:
Unfortunately if Wright is playing for the Yankees that means the Mets did not re-sign him and he either played out his contract or was traded to another team and then signed with the Yanks. I see no way in hell the Mets will trade Wright to the Yankees.
This is pure fantasy but we need a centerfielder and the rumors are that the Yanks would be willing to part with Granderson and Russell Martin. Could we be filling our needs here and we could put Jason Turner at third until a more permanent solution is found. Nuwenheis could go in a deal and they say Swisher won’t be back either. I honestly believe something could happen to the benefit of both clubs and Granderson would go to the NL so he doesn’t hurt the Yanks in the season. If you put Duda in the mix somewhere he could be an AL DHer. Call me crazy. I don’t mind my wife does it all the time.
Martin is a FA.
That being said no way are the Mets trading Wright for Granderson. What’s the point?
Let me further that. Granderson is only signed for 2013 as well.
And one more
Granderson away from the little league field: .223 .310 .445 .755 and bats LH with awful splits.
Mets trade:
David Wright
Jason Bay
Johan Santana
Ruben Tejada
66 mil
Yankees trade:
Alex Rodriguez – 120 mil left
Mason Williams, CF, 20
Jose Campos, RHSP, 19
Dante Bichette Jr., 3B, 19
The Mets will need to trade Dickey or Niese for a top SS in the minor leagues who takes over for Ruben Tejada…
Ruben will be entering his arb years soon…and will enter the not-affordable zone very quickly…
The object is to get as many top talented players on the field in their pre-arb years from 2013-2017
Ike…outta here…
Duda…outta here…
Tejada…outta here…
their clocks started 2-3 years ago….
the only thing we would need is for the Yanks to chip in and pay half of A-Rod’s salary to make it even on the books
1 – then after we further shrink our dimensions to help A-Rod rebuild his value…
2 – we trade him back to the Red Sox…pay half his salary ( so now Boston pays 25% ) ….
3 – now he can come back and haunt the Yankees as their DH…
4 – break the HR record in a Boston uniform for a quarter of the cost that the Yanks paid….
this gives the Evil Empire a real reason to hate us other than the fact that we play in the same city as them…
Since Matt Cerrone and his bosses frequent this page for new and innovative ways to run the franchise, I figure I would do my part to help out in the “creativity” department !
have a good day yall
- JDD
well, I think you almost have a lock on the “most creative trade idea of the day” award, and it is only lunchtime.
I kind of like it. But, I am also on the side of trading Wright.
Wow, how the mighty have fallen. I wasn’t long ago people were scrambling for the Mets to sign A-Rod if he reached the open market. Now we laugh at the Yanks folly. I have not watched A-Rod play that often the past couple years; however, his swing still looks solid and he could possibly put up some crooked numbers for the right team but I doubt the Yanks will jettison him. Being honest they would get nothing back and would have to eat a ton of his contract. I think they would rather wait and see if his bat comes back, especially when they are losing Swish next year. I hope the Yanks suck it up next year and only win 60 games but I somehow doubt it. Lately, they have an ability to win no matter how old or incompetant the team is. I hope the Mets can take a page from the book and start signing players that work well within a team concept, much like Granderson. Granderson, as pointed out, is a mediocre player away from the Bronx. His numbers are mainly an abborition caused by the band box. This reminds me of right handed hitters coming out of Boston. or pitchers out of Oakland. Our fields have always been slightley shaded to pitchers and we have done our best when we capitalize on this. Anyway I am rambling, Down with the Yanks Long live the Orange and Blue.