We do have the potential to have one of the better young rotations for years to come but at the same time the teams you mention above were also supported by good hitting, relief pitching and defense and we have no idea where a lot of that supporting cast is going to come from. Unless traded, we can count on Davis, Murphy, Tejada and hope Thole gets his act together but the jury is now out on Duda and there are two other outfield positions that need to be addressed plus we are uncertain as to third base. Our bullpen is a wreck.

Where are all these other players going to come from if we won’t either trade some prospects for them or sign free agents and have second thoughts when players become eligible for arbitration? It has to be a combination of building from within and from without. There also has to be a sense of support from the front office instead of feeling being kicked in the teeth and not having faith in it while performing well.

If we were focusing our resources on improving the team instead of cutting back on them to the bare bones to keep the business economically a float for the current ownership, I think we would all feel a bright future can lay ahead. However, this is an organization more concerned with the survival of the current ownership than the product as evidenced by having no faith in the players and kicking them in the teeth when for two straight seasons they were making some noise – along with cutting back on the signing of their draft pick selections which is one way of working toward the future.

You seem to like what that site has to say but all the WS winners on it spent money unlike us!

1) Twins
2) Cards
3) A’s
4) Marlins
5) Yankess

This is spending monely wisely based on parameters shown at linked site. Padres I believe are in top ten.

Note fter Twins gave Mauer exorbinent contact they in my book will not smll playoffs for a long time.

Tell us how many teams that don’t sign big cotracts and spend have won the WS in the past 20 years?

How many have won more than one and done?

How many has Oakland won in all the years of doing what you think is the key to being a winner for a long consistent time?

Pirates?
Kansas City?
Astros?
Padres?

They all do what you say should be done too…
How many have they won?

Actually Boston won WS in 2004 and 2007. But they are not a model way to stay competitive as bad contracts will catch up to you and bite you as players age.

And they didn’t just LET Pujols go they gave him a pretty substantial offer that got topped by someone else….

Hardly the case here in Metville…Hell we made no offers at all just turned our nose up at any parameters mentioned even before other teams set them above our affordability!

If St Louis get in WS this year and wins they will be back to back winners. St. Louis let King Albert go. Both the Braves and St. Louis have moderate payrolls which are comptetive. Both had consistent FO and managers. Both teams knew when to let players go.
As for Detroit and Dombrowski.

http://patcaputo.blogspot.com/2012/06/curtis-granderson-and-detroit-tigers.html

The Yankees!

And yes if they bit the bullet and paid some of those guys to stay they might have won more than one WS!

Especially true for Maddox!

Again have they paid anybody including Chipper 20 M or more.

They moved their bad contracts.

Who has won multiple Wolds Series in last ten years?

Meanwhile except for a brief but rapid retooling phase (not rebuilding) they were competive. Their farm system developed talent. They had stability in GM and manager. In other words they are a franchise to emulate. Get a flash disc and steel their blueprint.

Yep and it’s one of the reasons why they have never won more than one World Series.

or haven’t won the Division in the last 7!

I don’t.care how old you are…if you have been paying attention since you were a kid there
are adages about this game.

1) Pitching is 70 % of this game….always has been..always will be!
2) In general players at 35 years of age are slowing down. The ones that play well past that age are the ones able to make the adjustments.
3) In a short series…anything can happen

The Braves had their 14 year run because of their starting pitching. Did any team in baseball match their staff of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz and either Steve Avery. Kent Merker or Denny Neagle?

The Yankees won more championships but not because their starters were better but instead because they had the right pitchers and the best weapon of all, Mariano Rivera!

I suggest that our current approach and plan to give us a long successful run is the growth of what may be as good a starting staff as there is. Jonathon Niese looks like he has turned the corner and will blossom into our version of Andy Pettite. Matt Harvey has already shown that he is the real thing. Zack Wheeler has been considered to be even more talented than Matt Harvey and will join the team sometime this year. Add in Dillon Gee who has shown his promise too.and if Dickey is resigned our rotation could be terrific That could make us a team that will compete for the whole season. Not necessarily to make the playoffs but a team to win 85-90 games.

No doubt we would need to resign D.W. or if we had to trade him get back equal value to fill our holes at catcher and in the outfield. but the bottom line is that starting pitching staff

I think ours could dominate for years!

Nate Mc Clouth
Andruw Jones
Jeff Francour

Also Mark Treixeira was too expensive for them.

They aslo let Jon Smoltz, Gary Maddox and Tom Glavine go.

They also knew when to let Dale Murphy go during their rebuilding phase.

Maybe the Braves do not get too attached to players and have a plan to win.

I just got home.I am sorry for the delayed reply. I totally agree but reality is what it is. Grin and bear it or go balistic like Yankee fans who are spoiled brats. The good news is without a winning product attendence will go below 1 M a year to a point they will be forced to sell. The franchise is worth anout 1 billion dollars. Sooner or later somethings got to give. Either sh*t or get off the pot.

Lets weight that…Waste ONE player or Waste 5…Which is the bigger waste?

You think we are 5 years away that really souncds like your problem not a problem with Wasting Wright.
It means you think Harvey and Wheeler are worthless, Davis too….Means no reason to keep any of them for the same reasons you say Wright will be wasted.