Comments on: Will Reese Havens Ever Put It Together For The Mets?

By: taskmaster4450

taskmaster4450 — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:51:51 +0000

I havent seen that the Mets owe anyone deferred money other than Bonilla who is getting $1M a year for 25 years and Santana has $5M of this years money deferred to 2018.

I would like to see your source on that.

By: Mike Lloyd

Mike Lloyd — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:49:37 +0000

Really hope it works out for this kid, right here in NYC. He has that potential to make a team giving up on him look really bad. I say keep him on the 40 and give him 1 more year. Similiar to what happened to Ike with last years’ injury and then 2 months of rust, maybe last season’s performance after the injury was rust.

By: TJ

TJ — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:40:47 +0000

Agreed.

By: TJ

TJ — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:39:40 +0000

I think I would get sick if Reese turned into someone else’s Dan Uggla.

By: Just_Da_Damaja

Just_Da_Damaja — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:58:12 +0000

The mets would be best served by telling the public the truth..

they are forced to pay back all that deferred money from glavine, Saberhagen, Pedro, Bobby Bo, Beltran, etc w/o the guarenteed 12-18% they were getting back from Bernie…

this is the money thats really counted against the payroll but they never release to the public

By: Just_Da_Damaja

Just_Da_Damaja — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:53:06 +0000

SideNote:

If the Mets pay David Wright what some of his STANS want him to get paid…his contract will essentially be as unmovable as A-Rod’s…

just sayin

By: Just_Da_Damaja

Just_Da_Damaja — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:34:52 +0000

If the mets trade David Wright, he can be an option at 2B

By: Gina

Gina — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:32:14 +0000

I had to do a quick double take when I saw the first pic. I thought it was Pelfrey holding a bat. I don’t know about this guy Havens but as somebody already mentioned he on the same path as F-Mart.

By: Even Flow

Even Flow — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:21:14 +0000

I agree with you, but wait until he gets to Vegas and hopefully, he’ll build value seeing that it’s a HR haven there.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:18:49 +0000

It’s rare to see kids traded one for one unless there is trouble with both of them.
Those one for one deals are almost always about kids who are never going to be anything more than a role/bench player.

This is a very good time to make these trades where GMs are considering who they can protect and who they can’t. What might not warrant protecting for them might warrant protecting for us and the same thing goes the other way.

They need to start rejiggering those kids we can’t seem to use for kids we can get onto the MLB roster.

By: jessep

jessep — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:06:34 +0000

Agreed – if somebody sent the Mets anything straight up for Havens, I’d have doubts about that GM.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:05:29 +0000

It may not be enough all on his own to trade for but we have other kids who also would not garner attention all by themselves that we could package to get something we do like and need.

The values of a player is additive!

Everyday here people seem to suggest that two mediocre players are worth one David Wright!

Well if that’s true then it should work both ways and two of our mediocre kids are worth one good or decent kid as well!

By: srt

srt — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:04:39 +0000

Dang, I had high hopes for Havens reaching the ML and taking over 2nd base for us, at least in the short term.

Time is running out for him though. All those injuries really set him back.

By: jessep

jessep — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:36:41 +0000

I hope they find somebody who likes this kid enough to trade for him. I’m in the camp of “Havens will never be healthy enough”

He just turned 26 years old and still has 0 MLB AB’s.

By: Alex68

Alex68 — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:33:03 +0000

Taskmaster, well, in all fairness i think some of the guy who were occupying the roster spots will be gone and no longer wll be on the 40 man roster, given our FO and their small market mentality, i doubt we’d add good players to it and more likely we’d have a 40 roster of same mets we saw last year.. Guys like wheeler maybe havens, and others who might be able to be on the Rule V could be added..

By: Metsie

Metsie — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:32:41 +0000

Well the way I’m looking at it at best we are losing a guy who is going to have a hard time getting past Murphy especially when you have Valdespin, Flores and the myriad of other middle IFs down on the farm.

Sure he could be a good player if he gets the time and breaks into the lineup but that is a longshot with us.

Better to trade him for some other kid who will have little issue breaking into the lineup in a position like OF.

It’s less of a case of letting something good go and more of a case of if he really has that promise then he is worth enough in trade to get the same promise only at a position where you can actually get it on the field.

And while some may say trade Murphy to make room really your only trading a KNOWN in the hopes of an UNKNOWN actually meeting his promise which may never happen.

By: taskmaster4450

taskmaster4450 — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:30:08 +0000

The question is are the Mets in a bad position with their 40 man roster. They have a number of FA who will be off by the winter meetings. Judging by the holes that they are looking to fill, most of those positions on the roster dont get signed until Mid January or later. Guys like Cedeno, Acosta, and Torres all will be floating around towards Spring Training. Also, I dont recall the list, but I think the Mets only need to protect 5 or so who arent presently on the 40 man. Thus, a guy like Havens shouldnt be that hard to protect.

By: Vinny B

Vinny B — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:27:52 +0000

I’ agree, I’m not ready to give up on him either, I think the Mets should give him one more chance.

btw, where’s the shoutbox????

By: Alex68

Alex68 — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:23:01 +0000

Wow, you really have that much faith in him huh joe?? I hope you’re right and he becomes the guy we’d all hope he’d be for us…

By: Joe D

Joe D — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:20:03 +0000

I’m not ready to give up on him and mostly because when Havens and Davis were drafted, most scouts said Havens would be the one with more homerun power. I say give him one more year. We have nothing to lose and I do believe he’d be scooped up if left unprotected. Nice post, Ed.