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Who Should Be The First Mets Icon To Get A Statue At Citi Field?
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Is there anything better than going to your hometown ballpark and seeing those bronze statues of iconic players or managers who meant so much to the team and more importantly the fans?
Take a look at some of the gorgeous sculptures you’ll find just in the NL East…
Mike Schmidt at Citizens Bank Park
Steve Carlton at Citizens Bank Park
Robin Roberts at Citizens Bank Park
Josh Gibson at Nationals Park
Walter Johnson at Nationals Park
Frank Howard at Nationals Park
Hank Aaron at Turner Field
Ty Cobb at Turner Field
Phil Niekro at Turner Field
Warren Spahn at Turner Field
Isn’t it sad, that we have no such monumental testaments to any iconic Mets at Citi Field?
I asked our staff if they could pick just one Mets player, manager,owner or executive to have a statue erected of them in front of Citi Field, who would it be?
It was amazing the varying degrees of answers I got back, and initially thought everyone would respond Tom Seaver, and many of them did. But it was nice to see some other fine Mets legends mentioned as well.
Mitch: Gary Carter – He wasn’t a homegrown Met, but nobody that ever put on a Mets uniform deserves a statue more than Carter. He was a great man, a great player, and a great Met. His smile could light the dark side of the moon.
Nick: Tom Seaver because he was everything the Mets were for over a decade going to the World Series twice and winning a title and holding every Mets pitching record in the books. He is Mr. Met on the pitching side of the game for the Mets.
Michael: Tom Seaver – I never got to see him pitch but my father still says that Seaver could out-duel anybody on his best day. He is the best this team has ever had and deserves a statue in front of Citi Field.
Gregg: My choice would be Mrs. Joan Payson. Mrs. Payson was a key person in bringing National League baseball back to New York. She was the team’s first owner, and she truly loved her Mets. It’s got to be Mrs. Payson.
Jim: Gil Hodges. Hodges turned a team that was the laughing stock of the league into World Series Champions in a relatively short amount of time. Had we not lost Gil early, the Mets may have hoisted a few more World Series trophies in the early 70s. Since the Mets already have payed tribute to the Brooklyn Dodgers with the Jackie Robinson Rotunda, why not honor an iconic Brooklyn Dodger who changed the Mets?
Craig: It’s hard to pick just one, but if that’s the case than I say Mike Piazza. The statue could be likeness of the post 9/11 home run and serve as a 9/11 memorial as well.
Clare: You could go with an obvious pick like Tom Seaver, but I would pick David Wright. He exemplifies everything that is good about baseball. He hustles, plays every day and takes pride in his play and loves being a Met. After all is said and done, Wright will have all the Mets records anyway. I think he would be almost embarrassed to see a statue of himself in front of Citi Field because he is so humble. Still, he deserves it.
Jessep: Tom Seaver without a doubt would be the first choice. He’s The Franchise, it starts and ends with him in my book.
Elliot: Tom Seaver. He’s still the franchise.
Fonzie13 - Tom Seaver. He’s the franchise. The man who turned the lovable losers into a major league team. The only Hall of Famer that played the majority of his career with the Mets.
Drew: Tom Seaver, there can be no other.
Satish: It has to be Tom Seaver. The only Met Hall of Famer and there were so many memorable moments with him. When I think New York Mets, I think of Tom Seaver.
Rob S.: This is a toss up between Tom Seaver and Braden Looper. Umm, I think I’ll go with Seaver. Seriously, though, definitely #41. Seaver should be immortalized but not primarily due to his accomplishments on the field. Sure, we know all about the wins and the strikeouts and the Cy Young Awards. But where Seaver gets elevated above the rest is what he meant to this team, this “franchise.” No one else in Mets history had an impact more than Tom Terrific. With his arrival, the Mets seemingly overnight went from laughing stock to at least respectable once every five days. For the first time in team history one of our pitchers could take the mound and we felt fairly confident we’d get a “W” And when Seaver was discarded in 77, the team immediately tanked for almost a decade. In an era dominated by pitching, Seaver stood tall above the rest, and his statue should be standing outside Citi Field.
XtreemIcon: Well, you didn’t ask about GMs, so I can’t say Sandy, but… if your nickname is the Franchise, then the first bronze statue should be yours, wouldn’t you say? Tom Seaver.
Who should it be folks? Casey Stengel didn’t get a mention, but he should be in the conversation too, right?
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Who Should Be The First Mets Icon To Get A Statue At Citi Field?
SANDY ALDERSON
Payson, Hodges, Seaver.
Exactly. Why does it have to be one?
And, if does have to be one, I’d go along with any of these three.
There is this one photo I see from time to time with both Mrs. Pasyon and Casey Stengel together. If they could somehow capture that into a nice statue it would be very cool. But my top choice is the Franchise, Tom Seaver.
Tom Terrific. He’s the Franchise and the only Met HoFer.
Hey at least we have a 30 year old homerun apple made out of paper and plaster that doesn’t work anymore. lol
It still works, there just weren’t many occasions to use it lately.
BTW those pictures of those statues are pretty awesome to see. I didn’t realize half of them even existed.
Seaver.
Warren Spahn was a Met. Maybe Fred can swing by with a big flatbed while Jeff and Sandy hoist it onto the truck and we can put it at Citi Field. All it will cost is about $200 bucks in gas and tolls.
Tom Seaver would have to be the first. He was ‘The Franchise’ and right now, he is the only player in the HOF with a Met cap.
Wonder if Turner Field will be adding a Chipper Jones statue one day….
Under another manager Seaver may not have achieved the greatness that he did. Seaver says this all the time and credits Gil Hodges a great deal for his tutelage and creating the environment for them to succeed and excel. I say Gil Hodges should get the honor, but honestly why not both of them?
Budgetary concerns.
Seaver.
Because this will come out of Wilpon’s pocket, like it or not it will most likely be Gil Hodges if they decide to have a statue erected. The ties to the Dodgers is the clincher. Nice site!
“Take a look at some of the gorgeous sculptures you’ll find just in the NL East”
You missed the sculpture in Miami.
I still think the Piazza 9/11 memorial would be awesome at Citi Field.
Has to be Seaver in the memorable pose with his knee nearly scraping the ground near full release point…That said, didn’t we have an onfield statue playing RF defensively most of this year?
Anyway, that statue won’t be seen for some time, we can’t afford luxuries like other franchises…
The Mets already have a statue in Flushing. He started the season playing RF but has been splitting time between LF and 1B of late.
Options
1 – Seaver
2 – Gary Carter embracing Jesse Orosco as he tosses the glove up in the air…
3 – Jeff Wilpon shrugging his shoulders
Damaja,
A poster here, his name is Met Maniac, had the best suggestion of a statue – a bronze statue of Sandy Alderson sitting on his hands!
LOL!
Number 2 was the first thought that I had: Orosco and Carter celebrating one of the greatest and most iconic moments in Mets history.
I like the idea of a Mike Piazza post-9/11 statue, and you can’t go wrong with Seaver, but, for me, nothing screams New York Mets like Orosco/Carter. Plus, it would look great as a statue. http://media.silive.com/mets_impact/photo/9601473-large.jpg
Exactly !!!
Hodges and Seaver gave credibility to a laughingstock franchise. Wright will probably be playing elsewhere once he realizes that this team will not be competitive for at least 2-3 years.
I say Jeff Francoeur should be the first!
It’s really hard to limit to one since the only answer should be Seaver. If for instance they said there will be five statuses who you you like to see, I would say:
Seaver…
Someone above said the 9/11 Piazza HR, and he is dead on with that
A group one for the managers. Put Stengel, Hodges, Yogi, Valentine, Davey in some kind of montage. Some artist can figure it out. There have been so many great managers and they should all be represented.
Now this is where it gets more difficult I think. Carter, Hernandez, Agee, Koosman can all be argued about. Maybe this is a wus response but maybe a representation of the era’s like I said with the managers. Where you do one for 69 and 86. Anyone besides Piazza 2000 and on is a little too soon IMO.
yogi and stengel were terrible managers for the Mets. Davy and Bobby were good while Hodges was great.
Hi Ray,
If it wasn’t for Casey Stengel, there probably would be no chance for the love affair to have begun. It’s not for his managerial record with the Amazins – it’s for him being literally the one who made the Mets what they were in the City back in 1962. They could have easily just have been another team instead of something special.
Thanks Joey, as a youngin I gotta go with what I read about on people like Stengel. When I see video montages or read anything about those starting years, it is really about him and that is why I felt it was appropriate to see him.
What is your take on Yogi as a manager. For me it’s just odd to see him wearing the Mets uniform.
Hi Salty,
It’s hard to judge Yogi as a manager.
I do know that he was liked by his players but it’s been reported that during his Met days there were times his players openly second guessed his decisions or just simply went against his instructions. He was so nice of a guy that it seems he could not be the discipliner at times.
With the Yankees in 1964, the problem Yogi had was that he was managing all his buddies – Mantle, Maris, Ford, etc. and that they saw still related to him as their buddy and less one of authority. It was seen by the owners Dan Topping and Del Webb (and I forgot which players advised them that Yogi lost control of the clubhouse) and even though the Yankees made a great September drive to win the pennant, the decision was made in late August to fire him, no matter what.
Managerial wise, he was the smartest at his craft behind the plate but he left the impression with me at least that he wasn’t as astute when it came to being the man in the dugout. Coaching seemed to be more his strength.
Ah, but when he became a Met coach/player in 1965, with Casey and the Amazin’s, it seemed like a match made in heaven.
Thanks for the insight Joey. After seeing so many documentaries (more so about his Yankee career) that makes a lot of sense. In looking him up tonight I never realized he was a bench coach for Houston in the 80′s. IDK how I didn’t notice him I can’t tell you how many times I have seen that extra inning NLCS game and never noticed him and I was following baseball pretty strongly by that year and knew who he was and had no clue.
Hi Salty,
Yogi looked so out of place in that bad uniform to begin with, no less being in Houston and not New York.
I remember as a kid I going on a cub scout trip to an early season Yankee-Tiger at the old Yankee Stadium back in 1961 (wanted to point out it was early season because both the Yankees and Tigers were neck and neck going into a showdown at the stadium in September and it being the year of the M & M boys – so it wasn’t anything dramatic at the time). We sat behind home plate in the lower deck (at that time fans could get reserved tickets for that area) and Yogi, I believe, hit two home runs that game.
Actually, it didn’t mean much being able to sit behind home plate at the old Stadium back in the mid sixties after Yogi left. Those were the down years for the Yankees and anyone who remembers watching the game on PIX saw the first few rows occupied by season ticket holders and many an empty seat behind them.
Joan Payson ?
As long as the Wilpon’s are the owners one would have to expect the first statues to be of Brooklyn Dodgers like Jackie Robinson or how about the Wilpon’s best friend Sandy Koufax? All kidding aside my vote would be Casey Stengel, Tom Seaver, Buddy Harrelson (he was just as big as Seaver with Mets fans until he ruined his reputation by managing the Mets), Mike Piazza, John Franco, Gary Carter, and Keith Hernandez. I wouldn’t mind a statue with Joe Torre under it as he is by far the worst Mets manager of all time. It would be neat to have a statue memorializing John Stearns tackling the fan that ran onto the field or how about a statue of Lenny Randle trying to blow the bunt foul? How about a statue of Tug McGraw and “You gotta believe!” Or Jesse Orosco hologram with him throwing his glove up in the air and it never coming down? Personally, as long as the Mets are pinching pennies I’d rather hold off on statues and put all the money back into getting better players and spending extra money on scouting and development.
LMAO @ Sandy Koufax !!!
1) This should be a poll. But I say Seaver & Piazza
Having read these, I’m surprised nobody said Willie Ramdolph tipping his cap and sipping some champagne. How about Omar knocking on Willie’s hotel door in the middle of the night? How about one player from the 60′s, 70′s 80′s 90′s and 00′s. Seaver, Harrelson, Keith, Franco & Piazza?
“How about Omar knocking on Willie’s hotel door in the middle of the night?”
It was done via fax.
It also wasn’t the middle of the night on the west coast where the team was.
According to most folks, it also wasnt Omar’s call. That came from lil Jeffy..
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2008-06-17/sports/17900728_1_general-manager-omar-minaya-firing-jeff-wilpon
First: Casey Stengel
Second: Gil Hodges
Third: Joan Payson
Fourth: Tom Seaver
Seaver without question….
But there is another way to go….
Buckner letting that ball go between his legs! LOL
screw the statues. just bring back the huge player banners from Shea. Bring back the tin foil panels from the outside too while they are at it.
I agree it would be nice to see some 80′s neon. I loved walking away from the stadium and turning back and looking at them. Totally hokey and dated but they were awesome.
I can’t believe we’re even debating this. In fact, my vote is to move the Jackie Robinson tribute to another room, dedicate the Rotunda to Mets history and put the Seaver Statue right in the middle of it.
Tom Seaver, hands down!
There actually is a bronze bust of Tom Seaver near the elevators in the Tom Seaver entrance (but that’s not what the question was huh?)
I’d say Gil Hodges followed by Seaver
Hi Kay,
Thanks for letting us know there is a bust of Tom Seaver inside the Tom Seaver entrance but you see, the problem is for most of us, we’re not allowed inside that entrance.
BTW – a few weeks back when Clayton was at Citi Field, he forwarded a shot from the upper deck section 525 – just a bit past third base – about where my wife and I sat the first time we went. If you might recall, Clayton’s picture showed that the view of just the left field foul line itself was cut off not even half way to the outfield, let alone a large chunk of the area heading toward the left field corner.
Because one can’t see anything to the left of “Shea” baseball it meant every fan sitting just a few yards past third base could not see Mike Baxter’s catch that saved the no-hitter for Johann – not a single one of them.
Those are just two of the reasons that many of us mean about Citi Field catering to those with the money instead of all the fans. Those in the upper deck missed seeing both the bust and the catch. BTW – I did mention that the escalator in left wasn’t out of order – that it literally just stops at the lower promenade as well.
Joey – this is not a thread about sight lines, again, but Statues for Citifield. I get it, you had an awful experience, I have sat in a almost every different area and more times than none they are good seats. Sure there are a few spots that are less than desirable, but every stadium in every city has areas with those issues, have you been to the new Yankee stadium?
Sorry my view point doesn’t align with your, but 99% of the times I have sat where I can see everything and one bad experience doesn’t dictate how I feel about something I’ve loved to do all my life.
It’s unbelievable how this guy repeats himself every single day about the same old nonsense. Most of the time it’s not even true what he writes. Reading his comments are like being waterboarded or stabbed in the privates repeatedly with an icepick.
Hi Kay,
Knew this wasn’t the thread for that however when you mentioned the bust of Seaver it reminded me of our discussion a few weeks back.
Kay, please know that large portion cut off from left field is not limited to a few bad seats. It is for everyone sitting in at least eight full sections that begin past third base (524 going out to 531) that are in foul territory. Even more is cut off once one gets into fair territory.
We were aware of fan complaints before we went but had no idea the area cut off was so extreme. It is, again, not a few bad seats. On it’s website, the Yankees make it a point to indicate the few areas of the bleachers that cut off a lot of the view and sell those way below the price of the other bleacher sections. Those who have sat in the top level down either foul line at Yankee Stadium have told me there were no such problem except for perhaps some with the extreme outfield corner on the warning track – for I asked them out of curiosity.
Anyway, thanks again for letting us know there is a bust of Seaver inside his entrance. My vote for the statue still goes to Casey for without him, the Mets would have been laughed out of the city instead of being embraced by it.
I’ve been to Yankee Stadium myself, and unfortunately for me I have many Yankee fans in my family lol
It’s not just a few seats in the bleachers that are blocked, its the majority of the outfield area, so bad that they have TV’s, so you pay to go, and can only see the game via TV with the exception of a few areas, complete opposite. They have also mentioned the opposite of sitting in the upper deck outfield. When I went I sat behind homeplate upper deck, it was ok. Oh yeah, and the escalator didn’t take me to the top either, still waked up many stairs, before I got to the level, in which I then had to walk up to the seats.
Listen, it’s your choice, you don’t have to go, you don’t have to do anything you don’t want to, but for the love of God, please enough with the escalators please.
Yes you did mention NUMEROUS times about the escalator, I really don’t know what to say. Not sure how you expect an escalator to get to the upper level. At Shea you’d take an escalator to the top of the level, walk to you section, then have to walk up to your seat.
If you have a disability that inhibits you from walking a distance, or up/down stairs, if you let them know ahead of time they are more than accommodating. I know this first hand through an Aunt that lost a leg from diabetes, and another friend that had a sister that was end stage cancer and they could not have more accommodating, kind and professional.
I don’t have money, again, every arena has suites, I get to go to one once a year through a work outing. When I go on my dime, I sit in the upper deck myself. I know all about escalators, elevators etc…..
Numerous? Try Hundreds.
Seaver!
Wait a second. Why are there statues outside of the stadium for the Former Expos?
Seaver, Hodges, Carter, Cashen, Maybe Keith Hernandez (he is borderline) Also I think A Piazza Statue commemorating his post 9/11 home run.. I think its significant in franchise history.
Awww Carter would be nice too. You know what, it looks like all those other teams have three statues and not just one. If we ever do get statues we may need at least three. It’s hard to just pick one. Seaver is a must, but I’d like to see Hodges and Carter too. Off topic, but is the Gary Carter patch going to still be on the outfield wall next season?
Hi Kay,
All the escalators at Shea went to the upper most deck. With many less banks of escalators, it indeed a shame to have the one that serves the thousands entering through left field not go up all the way and the park was so designed not taking into account the comfort of the fans sitting up there.
BTW – now that we know about the escalators we can use the elevators but because the elevators stop working in the eighth inning, those who have difficulty walking down steps have to leave their seats before the game ends. We had to do that because my wife has had two knee operations.
Escalators? What the heck? :-O
I don’t remember any escalators going up to the upper deck. They hand ramps to walk up and an elevatorbut the elevator and escalator went up the the field level, maybe the Loge I don’t recall but the upperdeck? I don’t recall that.
There were two banks of escalators to the top, one on each side of the field. Same as Citi. But they didn’t go all the way to the top. You had to go from the field or Main to the Loge or Mezz and go up a totally different bank of elevators to get to the tank.
They had escalators that went to upper level. You can take them up but when the game was over you had to walk down on the ramps. It’s like Kay said though. One still had to walk out and up to your seat and they were on a steep incline as you walked to the upper levels of your seat and people literally sat on top of you often spilling whatever they had on you. But if you loved watching the Mets you didn’t care at least we didn’t.
Sorry that was intended for Fonzie but it is as you said you’d take an escalator to each level then get on the next to the next level.
What are you talking about, stopping after the 8th inning. WRONG. I went to a game in July and my entire family rode together, AFTER the game was over. In fact, it was against the Dodgers, rainy, cold and the game where Santana went on the DL the next day. My brother in law came to the game, first time at Citifield, a life long Yankees fan, his words “This place blows Yankees Stadium away – wow – don’t tell my brothers though”
ONE MORE TIME, if you notify someone that your wife has issues with her legs, they will do everything they are capable of to assist you, I have seen this first hand on more than one occasion.
At Shea, you still had to walk quite a distance if you were unless you behind home plate, and then walk upward through the alleys of each section, then walk UP to your seat if you were in the upper deck and that could be many many rows. The difference between the two stadiums cannot be more than 10 steps or so, and if you can’t walk up – for the 100th time, you TELL them, and they will accommodate you.
Your mind is made up that the place is a rat hole, no matter what anyone says, fine, stay home, going to a sporting even is a choice, not mandatory.
Hi Kay,
Thanks for cuing me in about your own and other’s experience at Yankee Stadium and it being different than those I’ve spoken to. Of course, even though we live in the Bronx, the Mrs. and I have no desire of going into enemy territory LOL.
If it’s this way at both our new ballparks, do you know if it that way with other new ones as well? If it is, then that’s a lot to say about MLB.
No more talk about the escalators – besides, with attendance the way it is, who needs to go all the way up anyway? A friend of mine who recently went to a middle of the week night game and a die-hard Met fan said it was also quite depressing – not the park, of course, but the atmosphere. And I remember him having a great time being just one of about 3,000 fans who took in a twilight doubleheader against Atlanta the last Friday of the 2002 season during what seemed to be an all night monsoon so it is hard to get him down when being at a Met game.
Ciao
PLEASE Gentleman….Let’s be real here the choice is simple . . . . .Benny Agbayani and Rey Ordóñez !! What planet are you guys from ??
Okay I’ll give you each a dollar if you stop talking about escalators.
Joey, seeing is believing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MCUVzK03no
Yea good luck with that.
I was so happy to see this post had over 60 comments. Than I go and read 15 comments about sight lines and escalators. What’s a blogger to do?
Try banning the word escalator for starters.
LMAO!
Hi Joe,
Do you know you are going to cause many with fonds memories of Shea to shed a tear with that video?
It’s because we’ve seen so many from the outside, from the actual seats, etc., but this is the first at least home video I’ve seen from the interior under the stands as viewed by on a typical day.
BTW – with that dollar, I accept all major credit cards!
Can you give him a few more dollars to get him to stop talking about Bill Rigney?
While the post is on the topic of famous Mets to get a statue let me be the 1st to say congrats to one whose name is also worthy of consideration, Davey Johnson. Though your a div rival congrats on winning the NL East. If it could not be the Mets I can say I am fine that it was you and your squad instead. But take it easy on dissing my team OK?
I’m kind of annoyed at those pot shots Davey took at the Mets in their last serious.
Really? What does he care about the Mets at this point and why did he get so much satisfaction seeing us eliminated. Not like we’ve exactly been rivals with the Nats.
I’d just assume the WS winner not come from the NL east if it’s not the Mets. And that’s every year, not just this one. Looking at what teams are likely headed to post season, this will probably be a year I’ll be rooting for an AL team to win it all, providing it’s not the Yankees.
Davey has always been that way. Every team hated us when he was managing us. He never had anything good to say about a division rival and he wasn’t afraid to give the press what they wanted to hear. Over time his players start playing off of it. In 1985-1989 we called it swagger, but it was actually the team responding to their manager. Unlike most managers today, Johnson was a leader. Sure the Mets had Carter and Mex, but that was Davey’s team and he ruled the roost. Now that he does that against us it hurts a little and it sucks, but that’s just Davey being Davey.
It appears the awarding of the first statue will be based more on the generation, with us older guys leaning toward Casey or Gil and those a bit younger with Davey or Piazza, etc.
Wasn’t that what Gary Cohen and Howie Rose alluded to when Davey was chosen as the Mets all time manager over Gil Hodges? They seemed a bit surprised at the result.
There is one that has not been mentioned – what about a statue of Mr. Met himself?
There is a replica of Mr. Met in the HOF, its on the ground level – no assistance necessary
Hodges, Seaver, maybe not a statue but something for Mrs. Payson. Perhaps make a statue of Tom Terrific then change the Seaver entrance to Mrs. Payson and photos of her.
I do have a pic of myself and cousins in front of Stan Musial at Busch Stadium from last year.
Jeffy Wilpon. We could throw stuff at it……
Seaver
And someday David Wright
Hey, PA met fan, when you said “And someday David Wright” someday DW what??? Have a statue?? In order to have a statue don’t you have to be not only great in your team, but an all time great? maybe Win something, no?? Some of you gotta stop this obsession with this above average/good 3B we have.. Jeez..
Talk about stopping an obsession, maybe you can one day stop yours with telling anyone that something positive about DWight that THEY are obsessed. As shocking as this may be to you, many Mets fans like DWright and think he’s pretty damn good, oh yeah, so do his peers on and off the NY Mets.
You know if we are going to put statues up around the stadium there is one name no one has mentioned that should get a statue there.
Bill Shea!
Without him we would not have even have a team to watch other than the Yankees.
Perhaps a statue of him standing in front of a sculpture of the old Shea Stadium should be the first one we get!