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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/what-can-be-learned-from-the-yankees-collapse.html#comment-295069</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi GamGeezer,

Don&#039;t forget to include Ross Mosschitto and Roger Repoz...... :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi GamGeezer,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget to include Ross Mosschitto and Roger Repoz&#8230;&#8230; <img src='http://smhttp.18058.nexcesscdn.net/808D60/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know what lesson you should take from the Yankees this year?

KEEP YOUR PLAYERS HEALTHY!

Nothing more and nothing less!

They got in trouble late in the season because they lost thier Ace and clean up hitter. Thier cleanup hitter never really got his swing back in time for the playoffs hence he got benched.

Then they lost thier captain which took all the wind out of thier sails!

Cashman shouldn&#039;t over react to that and while it was always a goal to reduce payroll the reason was to be able to do what they have always done pay top dollar for the most recently top performing team carrier without going too far past the Luxury tax.

The guys who had at one time been cheap enough to let them do that are no longer cheap because they too are superstars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what lesson you should take from the Yankees this year?</p>
<p>KEEP YOUR PLAYERS HEALTHY!</p>
<p>Nothing more and nothing less!</p>
<p>They got in trouble late in the season because they lost thier Ace and clean up hitter. Thier cleanup hitter never really got his swing back in time for the playoffs hence he got benched.</p>
<p>Then they lost thier captain which took all the wind out of thier sails!</p>
<p>Cashman shouldn&#8217;t over react to that and while it was always a goal to reduce payroll the reason was to be able to do what they have always done pay top dollar for the most recently top performing team carrier without going too far past the Luxury tax.</p>
<p>The guys who had at one time been cheap enough to let them do that are no longer cheap because they too are superstars.</p>
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		<title>By: taskmaster4450</title>
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		<dc:creator>taskmaster4450</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your numbers dont add up if the Yankees are going to get under the luxury tax level.

The cap is set at $179M starting in 2014.  Each teams contribution to the players health/benefit plan is listed at almost $11M for 2013 (and likely to go up in 2014 since those plans tend not to decrease), effectively putting the cap at $168M.  If you are saying the Yankees pay half of ARod and half of Texiera (ARod $13.5M cap hit and Tex $11M), that means they suddenly are at $144M not counting that CC and Cano (on an extension) are going to scoop up between $45M-$50M of that.  So the Yankees will have to fill our 38 postions on the 40 man for around $100M.  

While this is still very doable, it is not the free spending like the Yankees are accustomed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your numbers dont add up if the Yankees are going to get under the luxury tax level.</p>
<p>The cap is set at $179M starting in 2014.  Each teams contribution to the players health/benefit plan is listed at almost $11M for 2013 (and likely to go up in 2014 since those plans tend not to decrease), effectively putting the cap at $168M.  If you are saying the Yankees pay half of ARod and half of Texiera (ARod $13.5M cap hit and Tex $11M), that means they suddenly are at $144M not counting that CC and Cano (on an extension) are going to scoop up between $45M-$50M of that.  So the Yankees will have to fill our 38 postions on the 40 man for around $100M.  </p>
<p>While this is still very doable, it is not the free spending like the Yankees are accustomed.</p>
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		<title>By: GameGeezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>GameGeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Germans have a word for it, Schadenfreude (deriving pleasure from the misfortunes of others).

I&#039;m guilty of it myself when it came to seeing the Yankee&#039;s implode.

Yankee success doesn&#039;t bother me so much because I don&#039;t follow the AL except in passing. However I cannot tolerate their arrogant, entitled  fans (especially the younger ones) who  need a return to those losing early 70&#039;s Horace Clark, Mike Kekich -  Fritz Peterson wife swapping circus days to give them a solid dose of reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Germans have a word for it, Schadenfreude (deriving pleasure from the misfortunes of others).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guilty of it myself when it came to seeing the Yankee&#8217;s implode.</p>
<p>Yankee success doesn&#8217;t bother me so much because I don&#8217;t follow the AL except in passing. However I cannot tolerate their arrogant, entitled  fans (especially the younger ones) who  need a return to those losing early 70&#8242;s Horace Clark, Mike Kekich &#8211;  Fritz Peterson wife swapping circus days to give them a solid dose of reality.</p>
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		<title>By: hotstreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>hotstreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeter is coming off a very ggod season and  his angle injury is not career threatening. Jeter wants to break Pete Rose all time hit record.  He is slightly under 1,000 hits behind. Pete Rose played ubtil 45 years old.  Jeter definately wants to retire a Yankee and the pressure will be on the Yankees to extend him.

 Is it wise from a pure baseball team first perspective. Of course not.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeter is coming off a very ggod season and  his angle injury is not career threatening. Jeter wants to break Pete Rose all time hit record.  He is slightly under 1,000 hits behind. Pete Rose played ubtil 45 years old.  Jeter definately wants to retire a Yankee and the pressure will be on the Yankees to extend him.</p>
<p> Is it wise from a pure baseball team first perspective. Of course not.</p>
<p> .</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes I actually enjoy a good Yankees choke to a Mets win. Maybe it&#039;s because we&#039;ve been so bad for so long. But watching them get swept was fun to watch and the soap opera that is to come this winter will keep me entertained too. I guess misery loves company. I enjoyed the article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I actually enjoy a good Yankees choke to a Mets win. Maybe it&#8217;s because we&#8217;ve been so bad for so long. But watching them get swept was fun to watch and the soap opera that is to come this winter will keep me entertained too. I guess misery loves company. I enjoyed the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Just-Da-Damaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just-Da-Damaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 8 ball is not as bad as it seems...

Tex
CC
A-Rod

thats it...

Trade A-Rod, pay half his salary...get some prospects...

Now u got Tex and CC left...

Tex is still performing at a decent level

is only 32...has 4 years left...after 2 more years, he is 34 on a 2 year 45 mil deal...if the yanks eat half of that...he is a 34 year year old on a 2 year 22.5 deal...and if he is still productive, he can be traded off for prospects...

that leaves them with CC as their one and only true dead weight ( no pun intended )

now in terms of actual TALENT...thats another matter altogether....

if they are smart, they are going to probably punt on Cano...move David Adams into his spot...use the prospects acquired to get a SS to replace Jeter....who they can then resign at a lower rate to be a DH....

3B they should trade A-Rod, eat the cash...and again...the prospects used will either play on the MLB team or be used to plug up current positions of need...

Gardner sorta has LF on lock...

Granderson is on his way out...( they should&#039;ve kept Austin )

Swisher has one foot out the door...but he is easily replaceable by Mr. Angel Pagan...aka the OF Met fans love to hate

They have a top OF prospect in Mason Williams who some say is another top stud...

The fact that the Yankees have an aggressive cashflow model enables them to take chances 
The fact that the Mets dont have cash flow and like to base their moves on polls and popularity ratings handicaps them from making bold moves

the yanks signed pavano to one of the most disasterous contracts in team history...

4 years, 44 mil...and only got 17 starts...missed time for everything on his body including a pair of strained buttocks...

pavano goes to Minny...does well...and guess who offers him a contract....

THE YANKEES !!!

Pavano actually TURNED THEM DOWN !!!

The equivalent of this would be Omar offering Ollie Perez another market value contract in 2012 after he had a good season somewhere else

Met fans would go APE-SH*T..

Yankee fans...ZZzzzz
not so much...

at the end of the day...they dont care about the name on the back of the jersey ( unless its jeter )...

its about if that player is going to help them win a RING or not...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 8 ball is not as bad as it seems&#8230;</p>
<p>Tex<br />
CC<br />
A-Rod</p>
<p>thats it&#8230;</p>
<p>Trade A-Rod, pay half his salary&#8230;get some prospects&#8230;</p>
<p>Now u got Tex and CC left&#8230;</p>
<p>Tex is still performing at a decent level</p>
<p>is only 32&#8230;has 4 years left&#8230;after 2 more years, he is 34 on a 2 year 45 mil deal&#8230;if the yanks eat half of that&#8230;he is a 34 year year old on a 2 year 22.5 deal&#8230;and if he is still productive, he can be traded off for prospects&#8230;</p>
<p>that leaves them with CC as their one and only true dead weight ( no pun intended )</p>
<p>now in terms of actual TALENT&#8230;thats another matter altogether&#8230;.</p>
<p>if they are smart, they are going to probably punt on Cano&#8230;move David Adams into his spot&#8230;use the prospects acquired to get a SS to replace Jeter&#8230;.who they can then resign at a lower rate to be a DH&#8230;.</p>
<p>3B they should trade A-Rod, eat the cash&#8230;and again&#8230;the prospects used will either play on the MLB team or be used to plug up current positions of need&#8230;</p>
<p>Gardner sorta has LF on lock&#8230;</p>
<p>Granderson is on his way out&#8230;( they should&#8217;ve kept Austin )</p>
<p>Swisher has one foot out the door&#8230;but he is easily replaceable by Mr. Angel Pagan&#8230;aka the OF Met fans love to hate</p>
<p>They have a top OF prospect in Mason Williams who some say is another top stud&#8230;</p>
<p>The fact that the Yankees have an aggressive cashflow model enables them to take chances<br />
The fact that the Mets dont have cash flow and like to base their moves on polls and popularity ratings handicaps them from making bold moves</p>
<p>the yanks signed pavano to one of the most disasterous contracts in team history&#8230;</p>
<p>4 years, 44 mil&#8230;and only got 17 starts&#8230;missed time for everything on his body including a pair of strained buttocks&#8230;</p>
<p>pavano goes to Minny&#8230;does well&#8230;and guess who offers him a contract&#8230;.</p>
<p>THE YANKEES !!!</p>
<p>Pavano actually TURNED THEM DOWN !!!</p>
<p>The equivalent of this would be Omar offering Ollie Perez another market value contract in 2012 after he had a good season somewhere else</p>
<p>Met fans would go APE-SH*T..</p>
<p>Yankee fans&#8230;ZZzzzz<br />
not so much&#8230;</p>
<p>at the end of the day&#8230;they dont care about the name on the back of the jersey ( unless its jeter )&#8230;</p>
<p>its about if that player is going to help them win a RING or not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well written joe, baseball is a strange thing, one in which teams get &quot;lucky&quot; with a few players and then ride it out until it falls apart. The Yanks have been able to spend more than anyone else; therefore, compensate when the wheels come off. However, their perdiciment is similar to the Phils. The phils aging core was hurt rather than not performing but it&#039;s close enough to see in the NL. Right now The Mets have Wright and Davis as core position guys with Tejada biting at their heels. Our pitching staff looks as strong as it did in 2000. Now we have to keep moving in this direction and not panic if things get wonky for a minute or two. I really think The Mets are just two or three core pieces away from being a team worthy of splurging in the free agent pool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written joe, baseball is a strange thing, one in which teams get &#8220;lucky&#8221; with a few players and then ride it out until it falls apart. The Yanks have been able to spend more than anyone else; therefore, compensate when the wheels come off. However, their perdiciment is similar to the Phils. The phils aging core was hurt rather than not performing but it&#8217;s close enough to see in the NL. Right now The Mets have Wright and Davis as core position guys with Tejada biting at their heels. Our pitching staff looks as strong as it did in 2000. Now we have to keep moving in this direction and not panic if things get wonky for a minute or two. I really think The Mets are just two or three core pieces away from being a team worthy of splurging in the free agent pool.</p>
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		<title>By: Metfan Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metfan Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Met fan the Yankees are an AL team and for all I care they could be playing in Utica or Great Falls,Montana. I don&#039;t follow them or thr AL very much. Not because I don&#039;t like AL teams but because the AL is a fraud ever since they put the DH rule in. It&#039;s like the AFC being allowed to play with 13 men on the field while the NFL is only allowed 12 players. I watch the post season as a baseball fan. So the Yankees are old, overpaid and collapsed when it mattered most. That&#039;s for their ownership and fan base to sort out. As a Met fan I look forward to the off season plan to improve our team and get ready for 2013 in the NL where REAL baseball is played.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Met fan the Yankees are an AL team and for all I care they could be playing in Utica or Great Falls,Montana. I don&#8217;t follow them or thr AL very much. Not because I don&#8217;t like AL teams but because the AL is a fraud ever since they put the DH rule in. It&#8217;s like the AFC being allowed to play with 13 men on the field while the NFL is only allowed 12 players. I watch the post season as a baseball fan. So the Yankees are old, overpaid and collapsed when it mattered most. That&#8217;s for their ownership and fan base to sort out. As a Met fan I look forward to the off season plan to improve our team and get ready for 2013 in the NL where REAL baseball is played.</p>
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		<title>By: taskmaster4450</title>
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		<dc:creator>taskmaster4450</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeter is signed through 2013 with an $8M player option for 2014.  Plus, he is coming off ankle surgery at 38 years old.  The Yankees would be insane to extend him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeter is signed through 2013 with an $8M player option for 2014.  Plus, he is coming off ankle surgery at 38 years old.  The Yankees would be insane to extend him.</p>
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		<title>By: taskmaster4450</title>
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		<dc:creator>taskmaster4450</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A terrific article which really sums it up.  

We are in the post-steroid era and I think some are a bit slow to realize that.  Building a baseball team reverted to the way it was in the late 70s and early 80s.  Free agents are a part of the picture but not all of it.

The biggest lesson from the Yankees is how long term contracts for aging free agents is the kiss of death.  So few ever work out (Jeter was perhaps the only one of 8 years or more that went well).  Players are somewhere around 30 when they first hit free agency.  In the steroid days, no problem since people were still at a high level at 35 or 36 (or 40).  Now, declines start at 32 and 33.  That is a problem is a player has 3-4 years left on a large contract.

Another lesson is the value of the minor leagues.  Teams need to develop talent not only to fill their own roster but also for trade pieces.  Trading is becoming an important tool in baseball again.  Much of the Tiger team was built via trades.  We see the Braves, Cardinals, and Giants remain competitive while replacing their aging talent with homegrown prospects.

I am one who believes the Yankees are behind the 8 ball.  A great deal of their money is tied up in aging players who performance is going to fall off over the next few years.  Their minor league talent is only arriving at A ball with very little help in the upper levels.  As you pointed out, Harvey, Wheeler, and even Flores are three &quot;cornerstone&quot; type pieces.  I dont see that with the Yankees.  In addition, unlike the Yankees, the Mets get a lot of payroll relief in 12 months.  Payroll flexibility is crucial as the Cardinals showed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A terrific article which really sums it up.  </p>
<p>We are in the post-steroid era and I think some are a bit slow to realize that.  Building a baseball team reverted to the way it was in the late 70s and early 80s.  Free agents are a part of the picture but not all of it.</p>
<p>The biggest lesson from the Yankees is how long term contracts for aging free agents is the kiss of death.  So few ever work out (Jeter was perhaps the only one of 8 years or more that went well).  Players are somewhere around 30 when they first hit free agency.  In the steroid days, no problem since people were still at a high level at 35 or 36 (or 40).  Now, declines start at 32 and 33.  That is a problem is a player has 3-4 years left on a large contract.</p>
<p>Another lesson is the value of the minor leagues.  Teams need to develop talent not only to fill their own roster but also for trade pieces.  Trading is becoming an important tool in baseball again.  Much of the Tiger team was built via trades.  We see the Braves, Cardinals, and Giants remain competitive while replacing their aging talent with homegrown prospects.</p>
<p>I am one who believes the Yankees are behind the 8 ball.  A great deal of their money is tied up in aging players who performance is going to fall off over the next few years.  Their minor league talent is only arriving at A ball with very little help in the upper levels.  As you pointed out, Harvey, Wheeler, and even Flores are three &#8220;cornerstone&#8221; type pieces.  I dont see that with the Yankees.  In addition, unlike the Yankees, the Mets get a lot of payroll relief in 12 months.  Payroll flexibility is crucial as the Cardinals showed.</p>
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		<title>By: Just-Da-Damaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just-Da-Damaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Yanks should PUSH BACK their fences....change the lineup to one that focuses on scoring runs in a way that doesnt just depend on the HR...

this way when the playoffs come...they are not bounced by a team that has a half-decent pitching staff

they are used to manufacturing runs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Yanks should PUSH BACK their fences&#8230;.change the lineup to one that focuses on scoring runs in a way that doesnt just depend on the HR&#8230;</p>
<p>this way when the playoffs come&#8230;they are not bounced by a team that has a half-decent pitching staff</p>
<p>they are used to manufacturing runs</p>
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		<title>By: hotstreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>hotstreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeter wants a new contract although he is signed thru 2013.  Are they going to let him play 2013 without extending him?  Jeter is therefore comparabe to DW and Dickey who will be offered a contract. Remember the hard time Jeter got during the present contract negotiations.  Will they disrepect him by lowballing him in dollars or years or making him play 2013 w/o a contract. Its business vs. dealing with their icon/ legend.  I am watching this carefully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeter wants a new contract although he is signed thru 2013.  Are they going to let him play 2013 without extending him?  Jeter is therefore comparabe to DW and Dickey who will be offered a contract. Remember the hard time Jeter got during the present contract negotiations.  Will they disrepect him by lowballing him in dollars or years or making him play 2013 w/o a contract. Its business vs. dealing with their icon/ legend.  I am watching this carefully.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Joe,

When a Yankee failure is means so little as far as satisfaction is concerned, we know how bad things have become for us.

The saving grace is that for Yankee fans, having made the post season ten of the last eleven years only to be eliminated in eight of them,  being a division or wild card champion by this time must feel completely meaningless and unsatisfying.   So in some strange way, that probably makes 2012 more bearable for us than for them.

We can at least laugh about this year which we couldn&#039;t between 2006 and 2008.  Can you imagine the empty feeling we would have if those things continued happening virtually year after year after year?  We&#039;d be going crazy!     

&quot;It’s signing the right players to augment your team, when you’ve developed it enough from within. &quot;

That is the rule both New York teams have forgotten.  For the pinstripes it is buying those marquee players year after year which is fine for the regular season when they can play as individuals but when post-season comes, they need to be disciplined as a unit, not a team that could simply out-tee ball it&#039;s opponent.

For the Mets, it&#039;s not getting rid of the stars but to build around them.  One doesn&#039;t need to to un-build in order to re-build.  Unfortunately, what Sandy Alderson has done to prevent ownership from losing the team now gives us no other choice - there is little to un-build with any more.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe,</p>
<p>When a Yankee failure is means so little as far as satisfaction is concerned, we know how bad things have become for us.</p>
<p>The saving grace is that for Yankee fans, having made the post season ten of the last eleven years only to be eliminated in eight of them,  being a division or wild card champion by this time must feel completely meaningless and unsatisfying.   So in some strange way, that probably makes 2012 more bearable for us than for them.</p>
<p>We can at least laugh about this year which we couldn&#8217;t between 2006 and 2008.  Can you imagine the empty feeling we would have if those things continued happening virtually year after year after year?  We&#8217;d be going crazy!     </p>
<p>&#8220;It’s signing the right players to augment your team, when you’ve developed it enough from within. &#8221;</p>
<p>That is the rule both New York teams have forgotten.  For the pinstripes it is buying those marquee players year after year which is fine for the regular season when they can play as individuals but when post-season comes, they need to be disciplined as a unit, not a team that could simply out-tee ball it&#8217;s opponent.</p>
<p>For the Mets, it&#8217;s not getting rid of the stars but to build around them.  One doesn&#8217;t need to to un-build in order to re-build.  Unfortunately, what Sandy Alderson has done to prevent ownership from losing the team now gives us no other choice &#8211; there is little to un-build with any more.</p>
<p>Enjoyed the article.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading this article, it&#039;s not hard to understand how he never made it as a GM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this article, it&#8217;s not hard to understand how he never made it as a GM.</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the Yankees would be best suited to remember that they scored a ton of runs, pitched well, and won 96 games over six months, and not to overreact to a two-week stretch of bad baseball. Swisher is gone, and signing Ichiro to a two-year deal would get him out before the luxury tax threshold they want to be under hits. I also don&#039;t think anyone would give Ichiro a long-term deal at this point, anyway. 

Rivera and Pettitte are not &quot;free agents.&quot; They&#039;re Yankees. They play for the Yankees, or they retire. Pettitte is up in the air, and Rivera will come back. I think the Yankees would be smart to hold onto A-Rod and let him play a healthy year in 2013. I still think he has some left in the tank. He can certainly still run and play defense. His trade value now is at it&#039;s absolute lowest. &quot;Dumping&quot; him would be reactionary and do nothing but leave a hole at third base. Eduardo Nuñez sucks terribly.

I think the Yankees are in fine shape. Kuroda is the biggest issue they have. They need to re-sign him. Then another middle reliever or two, which is a crap shoot, anyway, and they&#039;re off to another 95 wins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Yankees would be best suited to remember that they scored a ton of runs, pitched well, and won 96 games over six months, and not to overreact to a two-week stretch of bad baseball. Swisher is gone, and signing Ichiro to a two-year deal would get him out before the luxury tax threshold they want to be under hits. I also don&#8217;t think anyone would give Ichiro a long-term deal at this point, anyway. </p>
<p>Rivera and Pettitte are not &#8220;free agents.&#8221; They&#8217;re Yankees. They play for the Yankees, or they retire. Pettitte is up in the air, and Rivera will come back. I think the Yankees would be smart to hold onto A-Rod and let him play a healthy year in 2013. I still think he has some left in the tank. He can certainly still run and play defense. His trade value now is at it&#8217;s absolute lowest. &#8220;Dumping&#8221; him would be reactionary and do nothing but leave a hole at third base. Eduardo Nuñez sucks terribly.</p>
<p>I think the Yankees are in fine shape. Kuroda is the biggest issue they have. They need to re-sign him. Then another middle reliever or two, which is a crap shoot, anyway, and they&#8217;re off to another 95 wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Spector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Spector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks OG Met fan!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Joe Spector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Spector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much thanks AV]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much thanks AV</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Spector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Spector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you SRT!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you SRT!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Spector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Spector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe he gets paid to write.  He sounds like he&#039;s making decisions after playing The Show on his Playstation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe he gets paid to write.  He sounds like he&#8217;s making decisions after playing The Show on his Playstation.</p>
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