Comments on: The Mets, The Outfield Market, And The Reality Of The Situation http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html Mon, 20 May 2013 03:32:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: RobOJerseyShore http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-297636 RobOJerseyShore Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:16:07 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-297636 MAKE SOME MOVES!!!!!

*Send over Murphy and Hefner to Colorado for Chris Nelson (2b)/ and Ramon Hernandez (C) to back up Jaso…
-Nelson is gonna be a great hitter.. (is already) young has pop and hits for AVG with some speed..but total upgrade.. better fielder…

*Send Neise/Mejia/Duda to AZ for Upton(RF)
-locks up a 5 tool RF for next 4 years UPTON is a great move..

*Send over in a monster trade Ike Davis/Parnell/Nuienhuis/McHugh for Alex Gordon and Billy Butler..

*Send over Gee/Valdyspin to Seattle for Jaso (C) and Wilhelmsen (closer)
-Jaso is a young good catcher Seattle is deep there and Wilehmsen is a closer we need and Jaso is a great C
-they will need another SP so Gee slides in nice.

**Sign Grady Sizemore (LF/CF) no brainer here…he will get 2 yrs 5million .. $ its a steal he is 30yrs old and is auto upgrade with high level of potential coming back.. DO THIS PLEASE!! Resign Harriston as well and can swap in out as needed with nueihuis in the OF and bats off bench

*Sign Hisashi Iwakuma SP He is a great 3 SP or 4 and has #2 stuff .. he will be reasonable valued and could get for 3 yrs 20mil$ he never walks guys goes 6+ always and is steady as hell …

*Sign Gavin Floyd SP he is a great SP .. he will be less than he is gettin now which is 9mil a yr.. but the guy could ask for 7mil a year for 3 yrs… he is 6+ inning 6+ K guy each time out…

*Sign Mike adams for bullpen.. he is just so solid and sets up the pen for the season with young old mix we have

SP:RA Dickey
SP:Harvey
SP:Santana
SP:Iwakana
SP:FLoyd
**SP:With Wheeler/Familia knocking on the door when one goes down ….
RP:Whilhelsen/Edgerin/Rodrgiguez/Rauch/Carlson/Adams(Pelfrey perhaps as well)
1.Sizemore(CF)
2.Nelson(2B)
3.Wright (3B)
4.Butler(1b)
5.Upton (RF)
6.Gordon (LF)
7.Jaso (C)
8.Tejada (SS)
9. PITCHER

DO THIS !!!! lol Monster young team !!! love it sll under 30 with wright/sizemore like 31 and some older SP’s but with Familia and Wheeler on the way

]]> By: taskmaster4450 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-297357 taskmaster4450 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:07:12 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-297357 They might as well go with that. If the Mets are only willing to bring in guys who they can pay $1.5m-$2M, why waste the time. They are better off going with what they have. Players in this price range are usually nothing more than 4th outfielders. Unless they are willing to put in some money towards the OF, go with Kirk, Duda, Valdy, Bay, and Baxter. Who knows? Maybe one or two will surprise.

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-297356 Joe D Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:07:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-297356 I almost did that, lol.

]]> By: Heybatter http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-297318 Heybatter Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:18:43 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-297318 “things are looking bleak. Remember when all we needed was a starter, a setup man and a second baseman”.

I remember those days Joe, but I doubt most readers of this site are old enough to recall the 1968 offseason. Not even sure about you!

]]> By: TRS86 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-297298 TRS86 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:58:31 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-297298 True but in that case what is the right offer and could the Mets even offer that without overpaying?

]]> By: srt http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-297291 srt Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:55:49 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-297291 He says that now though. We all know if he gets the right offer, he’ll be changing his mind.

]]> By: TRS86 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-297288 TRS86 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:51:40 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-297288 Yeah, disappointed by that. I thought there could have been a match there.

]]> By: Mike Lloyd http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-297286 Mike Lloyd Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:48:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-297286 Where’s Joel Youngblood on that list??? It feels like 1980 all over again…The Magic is back!
Hey Joe, you should have just left it at the “price is right” list and slung the rest into Snowballs chance…

]]> By: srt http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-297059 srt Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:42:15 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-297059 From MLBTR:

The GM doesn’t intend on moving any of the club’s other outfielders after acquiring Young and reiterated how important Coco Crisp is to the team, tweets Casey Pratt of CSNBayArea.com. Beane believes that the club can find playing time for all of their outfielders by rotating them and utilizing the DH spot.

]]> By: RickeyBobby http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-297053 RickeyBobby Thu, 25 Oct 2012 03:20:08 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-297053 I’d happily take a veteran like Coco Crisp and his $7mm salary off the A’s hands for the 1 more year he has left on his contract, he has a little pop, solid cf and can get majority of playing time in cf while Kirk can play all 3 OF positions.it won’t totally break the bank. I’d rather get a righty but I’m not nearly as comfortable just handing cf over to an injury prone inconsistent Kirk who does have promise and flashes of good play, without any real backup in cf. We would have to get a righty hitting catcher to balance the lineup but with our strong starters and the addition of a veteran presence in of , an upgrade at catcher and a couple of bullpen pieces and possibly a mid season trade, I don’t think we’re far off from potential playoff berth. I honestly think when we were 8 games over .500 last season we should have taken on salary and some vets but Sandy didn’t want to mess with the ‘chemistry’ and paid the price as Citi field was empty for last 2 months of the season

]]> By: Stick http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-297000 Stick Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:48:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-297000 Sandy already said to not expect big FA signings, and that changes were likely to come through trades.

]]> By: L.J. Phipps http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-296997 L.J. Phipps Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:43:01 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-296997 Bay/Duda, Captain Kirk, Baxter/Torres …………. yes that’s your 2013 Outfield …………. get over it!

]]> By: Tommy2cat http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-296968 Tommy2cat Thu, 25 Oct 2012 00:30:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-296968 Conversely, it should stimulate discussion about low-key trades that, hopefully, will make a difference over time.

IMHO our two prime targets should be Toronto’s Jake Marisnick and San Fran’s Gary Brown because they are near ML ready and obtainable. Both ball players are RH OFs with speed and power. We probably have something of value to acquire both ball players without depleting our resources or creating an unnecessary deficit at the ML level.

Worthy trade chips: Murphy, Valdespin, Familia, Mejia, Niewenhuis, McHugh and, in a larger package, Niese.

]]> By: 51s http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-296937 51s Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:08:10 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-296937 O)h, how come the Mets don’t get all that dough???? Oh I get it stays with the Wilpons who have a staff of clones to tell us they are broke and hope all the lies stick and attendance doesn’t drop from 11th place to 16th place next year. Got it.

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-296932 Donal Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:55:19 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-296932 I think Swisher can land that annually from a dumb owner (hi, Jeffrey Loria!) . Pagan can probably rake that over 2 years.

]]> By: stick http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-296931 stick Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:55:10 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-296931 in that case, the numbers are really meaningless, since you have no clue how many years. it will be spread over.

]]> By: stick http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-296930 stick Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:53:02 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-296930 you think Pagan and Swisher are getting 15mill+?

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-296929 Donal Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:51:46 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-296929 That completely changes things. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Mets shell out $6 million or so over 2 or 3 years. Not likely, but wouldn’t be totally out of the question.

Also, I still think you are over estimating what Melky will get.

]]> By: Just_Da_Damaja http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-296928 Just_Da_Damaja Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:50:32 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-296928 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_principal_owners

the price of these teams has skyrocketed…

the mets however…have the HIGHEST deb/value ratio of any team in baseball

http://www.forbes.com/mlb-valuations/list/#p_1_s_a6_

right now the mets are -69

now sort the list by operating income…

u will see the cleveland indians…a team with absolute piss-poor attendance…ranked number 1

they have a collapsed economy…only drew 1.8 mil fans…

and somehow they have a higher operating income than the yankees…

well…that operating income INCLUDES the money they all get from the pot…

if the mets cant contribute to that pot…they get new owners…

its really that simple…

u have to be able to afford ur seat at the table…

larry dolan is at +30
the steinbrenners are barely breaking even
the wilpons are at -69

AND THESE numbers were taken at the BEGINNING of this year…

remember when the wilpons were selling off chunks of the team…

16% of that was to their business partners in the SNY deal

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/newsstand/discussion/adam_rubin_sny_bailing_out_mets

now here is something to make u vomit…

it turns out the Wilpons while crying broke about the MLB team…cashed in on 230 million dollars from SNY dividends…

Forbes did an article on how the Wilpons are personally profiting while crying broke

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2012/10/06/mets-owners-may-pay-themselves-big-dividend-while-teams-fans-suffer/

237 million…

Reyes this year – 10 mil
Beltran = 13 mil
Pagan = 5 mil..

The Mets could afford to bench bay forever, put Duda in LF…Beltran in RF…Pagan in CF…Reyes at SS…Tejada at 2B…and they would’ve fielded a much better defensive and offensive team…

237 mil..

right in their pockets…

now go and tell me why i should invest even 1 dime into this franchise

]]> By: Just_Da_Damaja http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/the-mets-the-outfield-market-and-the-reality-of-the-situation.html#comment-296923 Just_Da_Damaja Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:29:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=99105#comment-296923 Fix this mess = putting Sandy in charge.

fact is, the value of MLB teams is skyrocketing right now…partly due to TV deals…

in the past 5-7 years, we have seen:

the Cubs sell…
the Dodgers sell
the Padres sell
the Nationals sell
the Rangers sell
the Diamondbacks sell
the Athletics sell
the Astros sell
the Braves sell..

thats almost 33% of the league…

Now that the Boss has died…Fred Wilpon has been involved in owning a MLB club longer than any single MLB owner in baseball right now…yes was a 5% holder in 1980…but he was meddling even back then…it increased in 1986….even more so after he bought out DoubleDay…

we have been held captive by this creep and his underachieving son since 1980…

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