assuming he pitches the year after the deal expires he should end up making more than he would have signing elsewhere.

Just nt true that he left all kinds of money on the table to go tot he Phils.

Omar spoke clear English with not a hint of a spanish accent…

it is hilarious that you have associated good public speaking skills + race.

http://www.padresnation.com/coaches/sandyalderson/sandyaldersonnamedceo.html

as for Beltran, ur right…this was written on May 27 2009….he didnt go on the DL til June 21st 2009

Perhaps that’s one reason why Beltran, after pulling a two-out double past third base in the first inning, was such a dead duck at the plate when Gary Sheffield followed with a single. Austin Kearns’ throw from right field beat Beltran by several strides and while Beltran said afterward “it was a good throw,” he admitted that the pain might have prevented him from scoring. (Still, it didn’t prevent him from singling to drive in a run in the third, walking in the sixth and scoring on Sheffield’s three-run homer and raising his team-best average to .367.)

Beltran – who had arthroscopic surgery on both knees before the 2008 season – first felt that pain during the Mets’ May 18 series opener in Los Angeles. Then, the following day, “I got to the ballpark and had a small bruise,” he said. “I don’t recall hitting myself or doing anything to it. Ray (Ramirez, the head trainer) said that sometimes you hit yourself and just get a bruise, but after that it got worse and worse, to the point where my first game in Boston I just couldn’t put pressure on it.” He said he believes this injury is unrelated to any prior knee problems; what worries him is that it isn’t healing.

“I told (Jerry Manuel), I’m gonna do everything it takes for me to be out there,” Beltran said. “But if it’s something that I can’t tolerate, then I’ve got to pull myself from the lineup, simple as that. I don’t want to try to be a hero and then something worse happens and I end up losing a lot of games. I don’t want that to happen.”

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If it makes u feel better…the Yankees did the SAME thing to their captain…although pushing him in a pennant race and the playoffs is a lil more understandable

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/49013205/ns/sports-player_news/

THAT IS CERTAIN!

what approach the FO will take going forward,i believe, is sadly more of the same. I would love time to prove me wrong.

When he first came to New York we heard so much about his ability to obtain under valued talent through money ball by recognizing under appreciated talent via saber metrics. Now he says one cannot expect such a great return on performance with the type of “inexpensive” players he obtained over the past two seasons. We also now know that in the past those championship Oakland teams indeed carried with them very high payrolls. The Oakland teams that were close to the bottom in salaries were also close to the bottom of winning percentages unlike their earlier counterparts.

So that is one historical myth the tremendous exposure in New York City has debunked.

We also heard how he was responsible for those great Oakland draft picks through the use of Bill James methodology when James himself has stated that at this point the jury is out about the use of advanced statistical analysis to judge raw talent – a conclusion he would certainly not come to if it was Sandy who did the vetting during the eighties (remember, I posted that quote in the past). Also attached were essays written by professional scouts and scouting organizations attesting the same thing.

Another historical myth that being in the Big Apple has diffused.

Then there is the notion about him being the “architect” of those great Oakland clubs and even though he came in cold and admitted he had no professional knowledge of the game, it was through the study of Bill James he not only concluded which draft picks to select but also whom to sign, release, trade for and call up from the minors. Yet, I also posted above a quote from Bill James ten years ago which is worth repeating:

“The Red Sox are not hiring me to be a scout, and I’m not going to try to do that.

“Evaluating players without seeing them play is a lot like being a movie reviewer without actually going to the movies. I suppose you could do it, but I don’t know how you would do it and I don’t know why you would do it.”

So there again is Bill James himself raising the need to see players perform in order to evaluate them and by that I think we can all agree he was referring to professionals and not “observers” as Sandy described himself who rely on statistical analysis.

Thus coming under the scrutiny of the microscope that is New York another myth being broken.

So again I ask, what caused these misconceptions to start in the first place. Was it a case not of not enough vetting by the established baseball members of the fourth estate but rather a new age of statistically oriented one putting two and two together and finding a poster boy in Sandy – and with access to the world wide web at their control and so many relying on the internet for background information, those who might be writing something about baseball as they do other articles could easily pick that up and help infuse such misconceptions.

You say Sandy is doing a great job saving the franchise for the owners you claim need to go if we are ever going to solve our problems.

Is he working for you or against you?

As I asked you before how can you say a guy who is saving the owners you don’t like get a thumbs up for perpetuating what it is you deem is the problem than needs to go?

Who are you rooting for the Mets or the Wilpons here?

We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this point.

No one cares about the Wilpon’s bank account.
Met fans only care about the Mets payroll.

You cannot look at the FO in a vacuum, discarding the financial state of the organization.
It is a part of NY Met baseball. Ignoring it doesn’t make the problem go away.

If you don’t think the financial state of the Mets the last few years have no bearing whatsoever on the FO plans, then no wonder you think ‘guys always throw those subjects into the BASEBALL conversation to get away from the baseball part’.

Most GMs don’t spin or outright lie, they merely use Cliche to give a NON answer as opposed to outright lying to the press.

They have the gift of saying NOTHING of worth to tip thier hand or plans.

This guy comes out and says what his plan is and then changes his mind and does something else!

And he doesn’t on issues that would not be giving away company secrets as well.

Wheeler isn’t ready and a week later he is starting…

Is just one example where saying what the plan was wasn’t neccessary OR was any trade secret needed to be kept from the other GMs in the league!

So he lied knowing full well he was coming up or Waffled on what he thought just a week before!

Just as he did with the Buyers/Not Buyers in a week. That one was something he should have just kept his mouth shut on but didn’t.

Maybe if he had he might have found an offer he liked as opposed to teams wanting to rape him for talent because he said he was going for the playoffs.

ANyway you slice it…
He Lied, He Waffled….

Not the sign of a smart business man!

I’ll tell you how…it’s called spin. They’ve all done it, they all still do it, they all will continue to do it.

Just about every fan base to a tee thinks their organization is lying to them, be it injury status/updates, off season plans, player evaluations, etc. etc. I read about it every day.
Apparently it’s no different with Met fans.

I’m not sure what some of you are looking for.

If you agree it’s foolish to give detailed plans to the public and you know they all do the spin line and and I’m sure you’re astute enough to realize team plans are fluid to begin with depending on deals that can or cannot be done etc,….. just what exactly are you expecting? Do you really believe the GM saying ‘no comment’ would fly?

And two years later the laughingstock continues!

Giant are laughing their way through the playoffs at us making the Pagan trade!

You guys take confidence from the way Sandy speaks while some didn’t feel all that confident when Omar spoke.

That has nothing to do with race!

And idiot who speaks well will look smarter and give you more confidence than a smart guy who doesn’t!

We have two guys running for president who both speak well and I would say both are dumber than carts!
Yet we will judge them based on how they talk not based on what they do!

Which seems to be what the Sandy supporters are doing!

All we ever get as a sign he is doing a good job is something about financials regardless of how much the baseball suffered!

You want to have a purte baseball only conversation involving Sandy lets go we would ALL love to talk about the moves made with nary a mention of madoff, Loans, Wilpon’s Bank Account, and Payroll.

But you guys always throw those subjects into the BASEBALL conversation to get away from the baseball part.

So really this is just pot calling kettle because we have tried to talk pure baseball for two years now and you guys always run away from it to talk about money!

Considering how you feel about the Wilpons and wanting them gone why applaud Sandy who is extending the ownership you hate so much?

You seem to be rooting against what you would like to see here.

I happen to agree with you Sandy isn’t lying…
He is WAFFLING, Changing his mind depending on which side of the bed he woke up on that day!