Also, I don’t think anyone said he’s working in the same capacity as he was in LA and SD. We are just SIMPLY showing his track record – That’s it. And it happens to be his track record isn’t very good.

I don’t know why it’s taboo to judge the work he did with those teams.

If you agree he is accountable, then why we can’t judge the drafts he was accountable for? I think we should all be informed on what his track record is.

He said he would be as involved in the draft as he would in making the 25-man Major League roster. He said he would attened every meeting, every phone call, and was scouting players for LA.

But we can’t hold him accountable for their drafts according to you. Even though he was that involved and said we SHOULD hold him accountable for it. lol

Depo said himself he should be held accoutnable for the draft, and that’s all we were doing here. I have no idea why it’s taboo to look up our VP of player development track record. And it’s obvious just going by his own words that he played a BIG role in those drafts. I have a feeling you wouldn’t have a problem with this if those drafts were stellar.

DePodesta: It’s hard to encompass that in a sentence, but I’ll say this: Logan and his staff have done a terrific job the last couple years. When you look around Major League Baseball, it would be foolish to come in and say we’re doing something completely different. I want to build on it and make it even better, despite the fact that it’s been at a very high level. His strategy has been a lot of high school players at the top, mixed in with a handful of college players. A blending of the two is probably realistic. You look at the elite players in the game today, it’s a blend of both. The funny thing is, I don’t feel our philosophies are as disparate as people make them out to be. We both believe the talent pool dictates which way you go. We have a lot more similarities than differences.

And I’ll repeat the same quote you did:

DePodesta: I’ll definitely be involved. That said, I told Logan I won’t be grabbing the phone away from him to announce the selection. He’s been hired to do a job. Ultimately, I’m responsible and I need to be involved. He’s been trusted to run that department. I told Logan I’ll be involved, but I promise to be informed. I’ve spent a lot of time listening. I’ve already seen quite a few players and I will continue to see more. I’ve told Logan that I want to be there for every meeting and be in on every call. I’ve promised him I’ll be well informed — I’m not just showing up on draft day. I’m not looking over his shoulder. I will be as involved as I would be in a meeting about our 25-man Major League roster. The general manager is ultimately held accountable and he understands that. He’s welcoming that.

Sounds like he let Logan do his thing. I also didn’t say he wasn’t involved or shoudn’t be held accountable, I said he didn’t run either teams drafts. The GM is always accountable for the draft even though they have very little to do with the draft after the fisrt round or two. But I’ll repeat again I’m not shitting in my paints because now he’s the VP of scouting for the Mets because of his SD or LA days. I’ll judge him based on how our draft picks work out or not now that he’s specifically in that role. He’s directly responsible for brining in 2 promising IFA’s Montero and Mateo which both have scouts buzzing over. Time will tell but LA and SD drafts are totally irrelevant.

I FIRST HEARD THIS WRIGHT SPECULATION RE. THE BRAVES FROM TOM GLAVINE’S WET-DREAMIN’ WHILE BROADCASTING ONE OF THE LAST GAMES BET NYM & ATL IN ATL AS TO ‘HOTSTREAKER’ FL’S MORE LIKELY TO DEAL REYES WHEN HIS SALARY HITS AN ESCAATION YR &,IMO, U ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO SEE REYES’ RETN TO NY IN PINSTRIPES AS JERTER REPLACEMENT THAN BACK IN FLUSHING UNDER WILPON OWNERSHIP

WILPONS TURNING 180 ON REYES IS AS UNLIKELY AS M.DONALD GRANT’S REACQUISITION OF SEAVER; HOWEVER THAT HORSE CHANGES COLOR SHOULD OWNERSHIP CHANGE

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20040514&content_id=741599&vkey=draft2004&fext=.jsp&c_id=null

MLB.com: Do you view this as an opportunity to leave your mark on the roster?

DePodesta: Ultimately, I need to leave my mark everywhere. I’m not looking at two days of the draft to accomplish all of that. But I’ve told Logan these are the two most critical days on the calendar. You’re acquiring the rights to 40 or 50 players that will be among your assets going forward. So, they are absolutely critical days for your baseball operation and it’s essential for the general manager to be involved.

MLB.com: How involved will you be in the draft?

DePodesta: I’ll definitely be involved. That said, I told Logan I won’t be grabbing the phone away from him to announce the selection. He’s been hired to do a job. Ultimately, I’m responsible and I need to be involved. He’s been trusted to run that department. I told Logan I’ll be involved, but I promise to be informed. I’ve spent a lot of time listening. I’ve already seen quite a few players and I will continue to see more. I’ve told Logan that I want to be there for every meeting and be in on every call. I’ve promised him I’ll be well informed — I’m not just showing up on draft day. I’m not looking over his shoulder. I will be as involved as I would be in a meeting about our 25-man Major League roster. The general manager is ultimately held accountable and he understands that. He’s welcoming that.

So, there you have it – He may not have “ran” the Dodgers drafts, but he was very invloved in the draft process. And he’s right, the GM should be held accountable for all the picks – Good or bad. If he’s saying he should be held accountable for the draft, then how are we wrong for saying he should be held accountable for the picks? We aren’t.

So if you count the players that he actually signed, that’s a VERY unimpresive list. Not one major league starting pitcher or everyday player.

Gyorko actually looks like a good prospect – He was rated the 98th best prospect by BA and hit .328 with 24 HR in PCL. He plays mostly 3rd base now.

He’s not, however, the man in charge. The decision of who to draft ultimately rests with those who are, and the outcome ultimately – both good or bad – rests with them as well. They only time DePodesta was in charge was in 2004. as GM of the Dodgers. He remained GM in 2005, but that was also first year of Sandy Alderson as CEO, starting in April 2005.

The common denominator in both S.D. and with the Mets, is that Sandy Alderson was his boss and now is again. I think Alderson is the problem.

In the two drafts of DePo’s tenure, ’04, ’05, He drafted the likes of Luke Hochevar, Blake DeWitt, Cory Wade, David Price, Javy Guerra, Justin Ruggiano, Michael Stutes, Scott Elbert.
All together, 21 of the 100 drafted, in 2004 and 2005, made it to the majors. That’s a lot. All of these listed names above, but one, occurred in 2004 when Sandy wasn’t there.

Also, as GM,in 2004, DePodesta traded for Brad Penny and Hee Seop Choi, and signed, J. D. Drew, Jeff Kent, and Derek Lowe. I doubt Sandy would have approved these free agents.