The question should be does it really take (or worth doing) screwing up your rotation for marginal improvment of guys it really shouldn’t be all that hard to find upgrades for?

You could make the upgrades you claim your going to get for as little as 10 Million dollars and retain one of your best Rotation arms!

You have not suggested getting cream prospects back for Niese.

You don’t need to trade away a Niese to improve those positions. Pagan was a move like this and how well did that go towards filling holes?

In the end you will lose much more than you gained and what you gained you could have gotten WITHOUT the loss by just going for each player on an individual tade for Minor leaguers we already have you feel are not capable of filling the holes in the first place.

Get the same improvement your willing to settle for without costing you the hardest thing in baseball to find, Reliable and potential Ace type starting pitching.

I’m not trying to get rid of Niese, I’m trying to use his talents to fill several other weaknesses. The weakness of no lefty starter is not more important than no CF, C, RF to me. You can go pick up a lefty starter if you need one. Guys like Paul Maholm are not impossible to get

The Cardinals only LH starter was Jaime Garcia who pitched 4 times from June-August.

If Niese can net you something of value to help fill weaknesses than you can’t be afraid to do it solely because he’s a lefty. I understand the value of a lefty starter, but I also understand having AAA players in CF, RF, C are on the field more than the 30 games a lefty starter may pitch.

I think trading Niese for huge contracts is not really what the Mets need to do. If they ever dealt Niese, I’d hope they just fill multiple weaknesses not just hope 1 player can carry the load.

CarGo to me is Coors Field. His home/road splits are drastic and Tulo isn’t going anywhere

” I like Fowler, but is he really worth a guy like Murphy? I think not, Murphy is going to be a cornerstone of the infield for years to come”

Wow, you think way more highly of Murph than I do and I love the guy. I think calling Daniel Murphy a cornerstone of the infield is a huge compliment. I’d rather have a good CF than Murphy @ 2B though to be honest.

I would not trade Nielsen unless Tull or Gonzalez included.
LH pitching in NL East is a must w/Freeman, Harper, McCann, Heyward, Bourn, etc.

LH pitchers w/Niese makeup AND contract are a bit rare.

it’s a foolish move. You don’t have to trade 40% of your rotation to improve your OF. It’s not necessary.

Why make your rotation an uncertainity when it doesn’t have to be? If we trade Niese, there are other players we can trade for(or sign) without giving up Gee.

So very mature. And who starts when yo uand your buddies go on and on for hours i nthe shoutbox?

I think the idea of a Mets-Colorado deal is farfetched, anyway because in order to get back the maximum for Niese, you have to deal him to a contending team that can part with multiple pieces to fill a need for a young lefthanded starter, such as Cincinnati. I’d say Niese for LeCure, Mesoraco, and Heisey might be viable although I’d discuss Mike Leake and Billy Hamilton, too. Probably any 3 of those for Niese would be worth considering. Obviously, this assumes the Reds want Niese as much as they wanted Latos a year ago because I can’t see the Mets letting him go for much less…

I don’t know if Fowler and Cuddyer are the right guys to make this trade happen. Point is, I think there could be a scenario where trading Niese and Gee and not immediately getting back pitchers who can immediately contribute does make sense. Other teams might have those players. Maybe Upton and Parra from AZ. I’m just throwing names out there.

Jessep, I think being down on Murphy because of a trade rumor is ridiculous. Do we even know if the rumor was even true? Also, maybe the Padres just low-balled the Mets? You don’t know if that’s his real value.

However, I don’t think Murph is the future at 2nd, but I’m not going to give him away for nothing though.

And why wouldn’t a pitcher who is a year younger locked up long term and recently had a 13-9 record after an 11-11 record who lost a ton of good decisions to his pen both those years not get even HALF what Gio got?

Really it seems you think wearing a Met Uni devalues to you just for the wearing!