Comments on: MMO Flashback: Reason #17 To Retire Keith Hernandez’s Number

By: PA Met Fan

PA Met Fan — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 01:35:38 +0000

Keith should not have his number 17 retired. period. This is not even a question. Is it just a quiescence that doc and straw went down the wrong path during his co-captaincy? This being the same guy who was put on trial for cocaine use and alleged that forty percent of big league ball players were using it. It’s not a quiescence. I know Keith is lovable because of the Seinfeld bit and his playful commentary during Mets game, but isn’t he involved in a lot of negative talk. His constant and unjust criticism of Jose Reyes, the horribly sexist comments in San Diego. I’m sorry to say it, but the game has passed Kieth by.

Retire 31 not 17. case closed.

By: TRS86

TRS86 — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:40:28 +0000

Yup, it was for sure Ralph that first discussed him being suborned. I know, Keith just told Ralph to talk about it. Conspiracy theories!!!! Yaaaaaah!

By: TRS86

TRS86 — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:38:56 +0000

Double Standard, Double Standard, DOUBLE standard, DOUBLE STANDARD!!!!

By: srt

srt — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:56:36 +0000

Keith was a team cancer? Really? So much a team cancer he was a co-captain with Carter.
I have to wonder if you were even old enough to watch this mid 80s team play.

Ralph Kiner was the first to go on air talking about Ike’s swing and his inability to make adjustments – not Keith.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:51:11 +0000

Funny you say that because I always had the sneaking suspicion that it was Keith who was the source of the Ike is uncoachable rumors because he approached Ike about hitting and Ike told him no thanks.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:49:27 +0000

Well I would not put much stock in San Diego retiring Garvey’s number considering thier history.

I would have no problem if they decided to retire Keiths number but I’m of the belief that you should really only retire numbers of those who were homegrown or spent the majority of thier career with the team.
Neither really fits Hernandez there but because he was so important to 86 I wouldn’t complain about it.

If he had won more than one WS with us I bet it would have been retired already as would Strawberry and Gooden by now…

By: Metsie

Metsie — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:39:41 +0000

There is a difference though….
Mattingly was a home grown player and a Yankee for life!

By: Lisa P.

Lisa P. — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:35:13 +0000

Thank you for that. Obviously Damaja has some issues.

By: Even Flow

Even Flow — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:30:29 +0000

“This is the same Keith who was spreading rumors that Delgado was purposely slumping ( in a contract year ) to get willie randolph fired…”

He wasn’t the only one who said/thought that at the time. Stop it.

“This is the same Keith that got smacked up by Jose Reyes on a team flight b/c he said Willie was being too soft on him and should bench him for being a “baby” and showing emotion when Delgado mishandled one of his throws…”

Showing emotion? More like being immature. Don’t bullshit me. Name me one time you ever saw someone like Derek Jeter throw his glasses & glove on the ground like an immature brat after an error. Go ahead, I’ll wait….

I believe the quote by Keith was, “It’s time to take off the kid gloves”, and he was right on that one. Was Willie being too soft on him, despite Reyes at times not hustling down the line when he needed to until Willie finally did something, in which ironically, Willie got flack for from fans/media?

By: jfkbmb

jfkbmb — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:11:38 +0000

I have personally pleaded with people in the Mets’ marketing department to no avail. You have to look no further than the Bronx. Included in the 16 numbers retired by the yanks include Don Mattingly – never won a world series (played in just one postseason round) and is not in the Hall of Fame. So if the Yankees – with all those retired numbers – can retire the number of a guy who isn’t in the Hall of Fame, why can’t the Mets bestow such an honor to Keith? If the Mets only criteria is Hall of Fame, then Mike Piazza will get his number retired before Keith’s (if it is ever retired), which is wrong. Mike put up some nice numbers, but was never the clubhouse leader or on the field leader that keith was. From some accounts, Mike would go into the clubhouse after a game and put on his headphones – not exactly the leader type. And it’s almost like the Met organization WANTS to humiliate him. Why? Why make him announce a game with chumps like Tatis and Dae Sung Koo wearing #17? I frankly just don’t get it. With their poor attendance, what more of a guarantee of a full house than the day they retired #17? You think they’d do that if only for that reason. And #36 should be retired as well. Absolutely embarrassing that an organization with 50 years of existence has retired just ONE NUMBER (of a player).

By: Just_Da_Damaja

Just_Da_Damaja — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:11:10 +0000

Hell no, Keith was a team cancer who led Straw and Doc down the wrong path…then sold Straw down the river in 1988 when he bashed him behind his back to the press…which cost him MVP votes…this was the reason why Straw punched him in 1989 Spring Training…

This is the same Keith who was spreading rumors that Delgado was purposely slumping ( in a contract year ) to get willie randolph fired…

This is the same Keith that got smacked up by Jose Reyes on a team flight b/c he said Willie was being too soft on him and should bench him for being a “baby” and showing emotion when Delgado mishandled one of his throws…

This is the same Keith who on a broadcast cried and moaned about his contract during the last game of the season…extremely unprofessional…but bashes reyes for throwing his hands up..

Keith was and still is a hypocritical self-centered ego-maniac.

He is the new and improved Tim McCarver

By: K Maxx

K Maxx — Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:02:49 +0000

I would retire Keith Hernandez before Gary Carter or Mike Piazza. It’s a shame that Hernandez has been denied the honor for this long, and knowing how the Mets like to do things it will take an unfortunate tragedy until Hernandez finally gets any lasting recognition from the team he put on the map ever since the day Cashen traded for him, and the team led to the World Series. And when I say led, I mean led as in real leadership, real hustle, real knowledge of the game, and a real commitment to excellence. And as Strawberry would soon learn, don’t ever slack off or mail it in on his watch.