Mets Walk Nine, Bullpen Hands Marlins 3-2 Comeback Win

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• Hank October 1, 2012 at 11:38 pm

  I’m not as worried about Familia. This is still his age 22 season. If he gets another half season at AAA and the awl rate doesn’t go down, you can make the decision to transition him to the bullpen full time, where he could be a great asset to the team. There’s time, so no worries here.
  • Hank October 1, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Not “awl” rate, but walk rate.
    • Joe D October 1, 2012 at 11:42 pm

      Hank, I actually preferred Awl Rate. Because as I watched him walk half a dozen batters in four innings, I felt like poking myself repeatedly with an awl.
      • Hank October 2, 2012 at 12:18 am

        Don’t get me wrong, the walks are a problem. Tonight they weren’t necessarily disastrous because he was able to bear down and get out of tough situations, only giving up one hit also helped. Put it this way, next season is his age 23 season, and Matt Harvey just finished his age 23 season. I’m not saying he’s Harvey, I’m just saying the kid’s young. With the 2013 rotation relatively set (Dickey, Santana, Niese, Harvey, Gee), and with vet stopgaps (Hefner and maybe Pelfrey), and with young guys ahead of him (Wheeler and maybe McHugh), the kid has time to develop. There’s no need to worry, rush, or give up on him.
        • Des October 2, 2012 at 8:31 am

          Familia has a great arm and probably will be special if he develops command. He needs time at AA or AAA to further mature his pitches and be tested. I don’t agree that he should go to the pen because he needs to throw a lot of pitches in game conditions. This kid can be special if . . . .
      • Mike Lloyd October 2, 2012 at 12:27 am

        Ha ha ha hahahaha LOL…The only thing better than that would be sitting next to Warthen doing it to him…LOL
• Mr North Jersey October 1, 2012 at 11:54 pm

  You know what Familia needs? The Mets to bring in Pedro Martinez as an instructor to work with him next Spring. Seriously no joke.

  I have always admired how players in the past would talk about Pedro and how he would help them when he was on the team. I can imagine how Familia would do backflips to have Pedro as an instructor.
  • Even Flow October 1, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    You’re on to something there. Too bad you don’t work for the Mets, because it’s an idea like that that would go completely over their heads.
  • hotstreak October 2, 2012 at 12:30 am

    How about Delgado works with Ike and Seaver works with Harvey.
    • Des October 2, 2012 at 8:24 am

      hotstreak — What would Delgado help Ike achieve?
      Offensively, Delgado had his worst batting experiences with lefty pitchers who threw sliders — that’s Ike’s problem too.
      Defensively, Delgado had poor range while he was with the Mets. It was considerably less than the league average. Ike has good range. Both Carlos and Ike are about the league average Fld%, with Ilke’s Mets numbers a tad better than Carlos’ Mets numbers.
  • Just_Da_Damaja October 2, 2012 at 11:01 am

    I actually bumped into Pedro Martinez a couple years back…

    He bashed the Wilpons in 2009…there is almost no chance he comes back to Queens
• Mike Lloyd October 2, 2012 at 12:34 am

  The kid brings heat, and, if he ever can just stay around the zone…I like the Pedro thing that Mr.NJ said above… thing is he’ll have to “make do” with being with Koufax.
  Be careful Mr. NJ, that kind of outside the box thinking is dangerous. More than likely, they’ll deal Familia or Mejia, maybe both to try and acquire young (cheap) controllable outfielder and maybe a near ready or controllable catcher.
  • Joe D October 2, 2012 at 12:43 am

    Mike, what have you been up to my friend? I’m happy to still see you frequenting the site and leaving comments and the door is always open for more. As for the season, what can I say. Just another down year with the worst of it being still no apparent way out of this mess. Can anybody honestly say we’ve hit rock bottom? We thought that in 2009, 2010 and 2011.
    • Mike Lloyd October 2, 2012 at 2:00 am

      Hi Joe, yes I visit every day, not always leaving comments, sometimes just to take the temperature, and let go of my own frustrations with the direction…some immense vortex we seem to be in huh? I think we’re kinding reaching the climax to all the bad times, but I thought that last winter too…
      I’ll contact you soon, stay healthy and be well, and thanks for understanding, I’d love to eventually have that opportunity to express on this passion again. m.
• Alex68 October 2, 2012 at 7:28 am

  Lol, damn, the kid throws hard but he’s ALL OVER the plate… damn. i wanted to see what he can do as a starter, but my friend maniac told me this kid might be pencil in for the bullpen, it’s good at least he tries, and hopefully he’ll get better. He does throw hard though.
• stick October 2, 2012 at 8:30 am

  thankfully all the guys out of the pen that did the damage should be gone after this year.
  • srt October 2, 2012 at 8:57 am

    I’m with you.

    - I’m done with good Manny/bad Manny.
    - I’d pass on Rauch.
    - Ramon better not be back.
    - I’m thinking Elvin isn’t going anywhere but most likely start in AAA for depth. Then again with money issues you never know – he might get penciled in.
    - We’re stuck with FF.
    - Parnell, Edgin should be back. Carson either up here or AAA to start.
    • stick October 2, 2012 at 9:00 am

      guys like carson and elvin should be in the scrum in ST trying to earn a spot. Let the best men win. And they have the advantage of being able to go to AAA if needed, waiting for the inevitable call-up.
      • srt October 2, 2012 at 12:20 pm

        I’m still annoyed that triple A team will be in Vegas, especially for the pitchers.
        I asked this question awhile ago but don’t think I got an answer from anyone….how do you grade pitchers and power hitters in Vegas? Is there some type of sliding scale they use?

        From what I’m reading most pitchers stats (ERAs, etc) are elevated to a good extent and power hitters do quite well in the HR department. Kind of hard to get a read on what’s ‘real’ and what is ‘Vegas fueled’.
    • jerseymet October 2, 2012 at 12:14 pm

      Let the veteran relievers walk. As a group they did not show much. Use what we have in the minors. It would be cheaper. I like the Idea of trying Pelf in the bullpen only at a low cost.
• Joey D. October 2, 2012 at 12:21 pm

  We can’t really judge Familia on his wildness at this time for he still obviously needs work on it.

  Talking about Sandy Koufax, lefty started out as a wild thrower with great heat who never had the chance to learn in the minor leagues because of the bonus rule back in 1955.

  So it literally took him six full seasons until he got a tip from Norm Sherry during spring training when the future Met catcher noticed something in his delivery that he thought should be altered. From that point on, the thrower turned into the most dominating left hander pitcher the game ever saw.

  But we just have to wait and see if Familia can learn to control his stuff better so he won’t at least be compared to Oliver Perez. We know with Perez, it was partly an insecurity problem. Does Familia have any such issues or is just a matter of learning?
• Metsie October 2, 2012 at 2:34 pm

  Well if he keeps walking people the way he does the LAST place you want to put him is in the pen!

  So either they get him to throw strikes @AAA before he is 24 or he is done…. period!