Mets Notes: Ricciardi’s Contract Is Up, Trading Ike, Santana’s Value

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• Ky mets October 21, 2012 at 3:42 pm

  Don’t trade ikeeeeeeeeeeeee
  • Tommy2cat October 21, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    See a lot of posts around the blogosphere suggesting some pretty radical trades. Sometimes, a minor adjustment goes a long way.

    Here’s what works:

    Rotation: Dickey, Harvey, Niese, Gee (Santana, Familia, Mejia, Wheeler, Hefner). Johan is not a 5th starter, but is placed with the others because his health status is uncertain. The rotation is strong.

    Bullpen: Francisco, Rauch, Parnell, Familia, Mejia, Carson, Edgin, E. Ramirez, Hefner, McHugh. There’s a lot to work with. BTW, Hisnori Takahashi is available and I think we should bring him back b/c of his versatility and experience. We should never have allowed him to depart. While the bullpen is not as strong as the rotation, there are fewer question marks heading into 2013.

    Third Base: Wright
    Shortstop: Tejada
    2nd base: Murphy, Turner, Cedeno
    1st base: Davis, Duda, Murphy

    Here’s what does not work:

    Catcher & entire outfield.

    What to do…what to do…:

    Moveable assets: Wilmer Flores, Familia, Mejia, Duda, Murphy, E. Ramirez, Edgin or Carson, but not both. Ike Davis isn’t going anywhere unless we can acquire someone such as Justin Upton in a larger trade, as I don’t see Arizona trading him straight-up for Ike.

    Examples of players sought: RH hitting OF prospects Gary Brown (Giants) or Jake Marisnick (Toronto) or blue chip catching prospect, Travis d’Arnaud (Toronto), who I don’t see going for less than Wheeler or Harvey – he’s a tall order, but a phenomenal talent. Unlikely I’d deal either pitcher for him, however, as talents such as Harvey and Wheeler are equally rare.

    The one thing the front office shouldn’t do is anything stupid. Failing to re-sign Wright & Dickey would fall into that category. Trading Murphy for 2nd rate bullpen help would be a setback, as well.

    Given the salary relief forthcoming in 2014, patience is absolutely in order. So, it makes sense to use 2013 to define, develop and refine what we have and then make the larger moves when the front office has greater financial resources to supplement our existing core.
• Harry October 21, 2012 at 3:44 pm

  I still cant believe Carl Crawford got moved with $100million and being out for the season.
  • Stick October 21, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    shows how bad the dodgers wanted A Gon.
    • Bayonne Mets Fan October 21, 2012 at 4:11 pm

      I got it,

      This is your way of making an excuse as to why Sandy Alderson can’t move bad contracts like we’ve seen other GMs do
      • Stick October 21, 2012 at 4:15 pm

        just stop. you are making a fool of yourself. You really think that the Mets have someone like A Gon to trade just to get rid of a dud contract?

        Of course, if they did trade Neise and Ike to get rid of Bay and Santana, I am sure you would be happy as a clam, since it is creative, right?
        • Stick October 21, 2012 at 4:16 pm

          trading out of K Rods 17.5 mill contract though does qualify as moving a bad deal to get out from under a hit.
          • K Maxx October 21, 2012 at 4:19 pm

            That was an option, nobody paid Krod $17.5 and nobody ever was.
            • SaneMetsFan October 21, 2012 at 4:56 pm

              It was a player option that he definitely would have opted in to after the season as no one would have given him that kind of money. The deal to the Brewers was contingent on him reworking the deal to get rid of it. Had he just done so with the Mets he might not even have been traded.
              • K Maxx October 21, 2012 at 5:42 pm

                He was never asked to decline it. That’s a fact confirmed by Krod, old agents, new agents and front office. He told Collins he didn’t want the option and old agents to get rid of it cause he wanted to close and didnt want option hindering it. Another known fact. This front office are terrible communicators to players, agents, other teams, and fans. He was not traded because of any prearranged agreement to drop option as you suggest. The Brewers simply asked him and he said no problem.
                • Stick October 21, 2012 at 5:52 pm

                  there is a difference between dropping an option and being willing to work out an extension to replace it. He had all the leverage with the mets, since he was getting that money the next year with them, so he was going to want something to give it up.

                  as soon as he got traded to be a set up man, the option became close to worthless. Totally different situation.
                  • K Maxx October 21, 2012 at 6:22 pm

                    Your speculating and assuming. He told Collins to tell Alderson he didnt want an option. He told his agents to get rid of it. Everything else is either fabricated or speculation. Stick with the facts.
          • Just_Da_Damaja October 21, 2012 at 10:24 pm

            Despite the fact that TC very curiously told a reporter AFTER K-Rod was traded that K-Rod wanted out of that option.

            Im in the belief that Sandy/TC are in 1 corner and the Wilpon in the other…
        • Just_Da_Damaja October 21, 2012 at 10:22 pm

          Wait…are you implying that David Wright, All-American Hero, Mr. Say your prayers and take your vitamins is not as good as A-Gon? Even on a 1 year 16 mil deal vs. A-Gonz remaining 7 years ?

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          please stop calling yourself a Met Fan

          David Wright is the best player in baseball
• Bob L October 21, 2012 at 4:12 pm

  Don’t trade Ike. Trade Johan–get creative!! Trade R.A. even though i luv the guy becuse his value’s at a peak and if his arm doesn’t soon break down, his body may. i hate saying tht because he’s been such a great Met, but IF we could materially iprove the team for the future, i’d do it. I’d also trade DW and i luv him too. But aging ain’t graceful in baseball or life. And i think we should re-sign Ricciardi…
• Richard October 21, 2012 at 10:07 pm

  Ike being traded? Hope Sandy gets blown away by major league talent from a team. But in all,it’d still sting,for a very,very long time.
• LongTimeFan October 21, 2012 at 11:41 pm

  In my opinion what makes Ike potential trade chip rather than keeper is the excess movement in his mechanics and related attempts to project how that plays out over the longer term and how motivated he is or isn’t to be the best he can, via making adjustments.

  Consider that along with Ike’s too many mistakes on D (throwing and decision-making) plus a lack of diversification in the current lineup – lack of speed plus incomplete, inconsistent players prone to slumps – Ike would bring back the most value amongst Duda and Murphy – which would theoretically bring back a starting position player with more tools which would provide better lineup balance and tool-set diversification this team needs.
• Nelson Met October 22, 2012 at 12:03 am

  Don’t trade Ike, he is a good player and soon he’s going to improve his power at bat.. what the mets have to moves is the entire OF
• Just_Da_Damaja October 22, 2012 at 7:10 am

  Sandy will sign Pedro Feliciano back to a minor league contract

  Book it !