Really?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/team.cgi?id=4a7b5ec6

Juan Centeno got 79 Starts at Catcher last year
Francisco Pena the next catcher…had 29….

But Centeno is a backup?

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and yes…after hitting .371…he proved he could handle Brooklyn pitching…he was PROMOTED…

the next year…he hits .318…

where again…he starts the majority of the games…

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If you still think a catcher is where you can just put a good offensive player, i might want to introduce you to the rest of the league…poor defensive catchers dont stick around…they are either moved off that position or to the bench…

Brook Forsythe – relegated to the bench
Francisco Pena – relegated to the bench
Cam Maron – moved to DH
Kevin P – already said to have issues with handling pitchers
Juan Centeno – the best of the lot

Juan Centeno >>> any other met catcher in the system

You once pointed out that he hit .370 in Brooklyn….you didn’t mention he only had less then 90 at bats doing it.

He’s hit 4….just 4 hrs in his entire pro career.

He slugged .342 last season, that’s just horrible.

We all want Thole gone because his hitting is horrible, but yet Thole did much better over more at bats then Centeno ever has in the minors. The Mets need offense, not an even weaker version of Thole at the plate. Yes, he can catch, but he’s such a physically weak hitter abs so small in stature that he’d never hold up for 130 games ever year. That’s why he only backs up.

Pawlecki, Maron, Nido all have much higher ceilings and none of them are better at the plate then Sanchez.

Last season in 400 at bats Sanchez hit 18 hrs and had an ops over .800. If you really wouldn’t take Sanchez in the system over Centeno then you have no idea what a high ceiling top prospect is. Every GM in the entire game would call you crazy. There isn’t a baseball mind in the world who would side with you. It’s not even close.

Here is a scout’s outlook on him

Gary Sanchez’s defensive progress

Receiving pitches has historically been an issue for Sanchez, and the statistics back that assertion up. In 2011, Sanchez allowed a whopping 26 passed balls in 60 games behind the plate, and there were rumors that he stopped calling breaking pitches because he had difficulty blocking them, and did not want to inflate the passed ball total any further

Centeno is heads and shoulders above him as a catcher…

and 5th best met catching prospect?

lmao

yeah ok

im done humiliating folks on this site with that debate…

over the past 3 years Centeno has posted better offensive and defensive numbers than ANY met catcher in the entire system

The most I can get from anyone is that he’s 5’7 and is too short to be a catcher

Not a team rebuilding with more holes than us

That said, I love the guy. He has been an ace and our best and most consistent pitcher these last few years. Even so, his age worries me. That money he deserves worry me because I don’t see how it fits into our payroll. And I’m of the belief that if he can land a really great prospect or package, I’d trade him.

Catcher is far too important of a postion from a defensive standpoint

Dont laugh…but I would rather go with Juan Centeno than Gary Sanchez

I love the fact that he’s a no BS type of guy and calls it as he see’s it…great for leadership on the team, but the FO might not like it.

I will say that if all the moneyball stuff says that OBP is important, then should a guy who has a very low OBPA and very low BB rate be a very high priority?

So, he everything vests, he’s make 38 million over the next four yrs. I think that is more than fair for boths sides. It protects everyone and he can remain loyal to the team that gave him his big break. The Mets can return the favor.

If he doesn’t take that deal, than its curtains for Dickey. Trade trade trade and do it before the season while the Yankees are looking for starting pitching to replace the possible departures of Petitte and Kuruda. I wouldn’t mind Sandy prying their top catching prospect Gary Sanchez away. He’d be a great guy player for the Mets at a position in dire need. He is, however, a year or two away.

not the worst thing in the world.

if u include the option year…its really a 5 year 50 mil contract…an avg of 10 mil per year…..

I would NOT include a NTC…

What i want is flexibility….if Dickey under a sensible contract means he is a tradable asset…then i would sign him…

This is the difference b/w Dickey and Wright…

There is no way Wright is signing a contract here that makes sense for both sides…we just have to come to grips with that…

If Wright has the following in his criteria:

Winning: We are crap out of luck
Top Dollar: We are crap out of luck
Supportive Owners: We are crap out of luck

Wright can get all 3 of those somewhere else

My answer is still, looking at the roster, is to try and convert RA into a couple of players that can fill holes. Never know what a GM will pony up (until you ask!) and many teams will salivate over getting a 1 year shot for cheap $$ at a Cy Young candidate. Or at least they should!