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	<title>Comments on: Collins Says Duda&#8217;s A Keeper, Wants His Players Committed To Drawing Walks</title>
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		<title>By: Markcomic1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markcomic1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 03:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Duda is the Butch Husky of the 2013 mets. Wait and see. Ike is the keeper everyone knows it. Ike plays Gold glove caliber first base, he has heart, and he is a 280 to 290 hitter with 30 plus homer power. His 302 last season was no fluke. Sadly he will be hitting monster home runs elsewhere and we will see Duda walk 100 times, strike out nearly 200 times and hit maybe 20 home runs and play barley adequate first base..Sigh...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duda is the Butch Husky of the 2013 mets. Wait and see. Ike is the keeper everyone knows it. Ike plays Gold glove caliber first base, he has heart, and he is a 280 to 290 hitter with 30 plus homer power. His 302 last season was no fluke. Sadly he will be hitting monster home runs elsewhere and we will see Duda walk 100 times, strike out nearly 200 times and hit maybe 20 home runs and play barley adequate first base..Sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It seems Terry was just referring to plate discipline rather than trying to draw walks.&quot;

That is at least my take Donal. I have yet to read or ever hear Collins say he wants his guys to take fastballs over the plate until 2 strikes because he would rather they walk than God forbid hit an extra base hit somewhere.

If there is such a quote I would sure love to read it as I would surely find such a comment to be the dumbest thing he could ever say deserving of a worthy berate from my part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems Terry was just referring to plate discipline rather than trying to draw walks.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is at least my take Donal. I have yet to read or ever hear Collins say he wants his guys to take fastballs over the plate until 2 strikes because he would rather they walk than God forbid hit an extra base hit somewhere.</p>
<p>If there is such a quote I would sure love to read it as I would surely find such a comment to be the dumbest thing he could ever say deserving of a worthy berate from my part.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meant Hi &quot;This is stupid&quot; not Hi &quot;OBP&quot; LOL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant Hi &#8220;This is stupid&#8221; not Hi &#8220;OBP&#8221; LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HI OBP,

Not a statement about the importance of OBP but rather the ascertation that it&#039;s importance (one way or the other) was proven about ten years ago.  The annual range give or take a few points from batting average to OBP has remained about the same about the last 60 years - minus the six year period (1963-1968) with the increased strike zone and the steroid era.

IN fact,  for a number of years between the late forties and early fifties, the OBP range was actually about ten points higher than we get  now.  If getting on base any way possible wasn&#039;t deemed as important more than a half century ago past, it would show up in the variation between batting averages and on base percentages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI OBP,</p>
<p>Not a statement about the importance of OBP but rather the ascertation that it&#8217;s importance (one way or the other) was proven about ten years ago.  The annual range give or take a few points from batting average to OBP has remained about the same about the last 60 years &#8211; minus the six year period (1963-1968) with the increased strike zone and the steroid era.</p>
<p>IN fact,  for a number of years between the late forties and early fifties, the OBP range was actually about ten points higher than we get  now.  If getting on base any way possible wasn&#8217;t deemed as important more than a half century ago past, it would show up in the variation between batting averages and on base percentages.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was never proven thats just a myth!
It was proven every year for the past three years that higher OBP does not lead to higher RS!
Doesn&#039;t correlate to RS in anyway!

That teams with a lower OBP score more runs than those with a higher OBP.

But you keep on believing all this crap you think is true because it was posted on the internet if thats what makes you feel smart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was never proven thats just a myth!<br />
It was proven every year for the past three years that higher OBP does not lead to higher RS!<br />
Doesn&#8217;t correlate to RS in anyway!</p>
<p>That teams with a lower OBP score more runs than those with a higher OBP.</p>
<p>But you keep on believing all this crap you think is true because it was posted on the internet if thats what makes you feel smart.</p>
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		<title>By: this is stupid</title>
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		<dc:creator>this is stupid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would you guys just admit obp is good and stop this &quot;moneyball and sabermetrics are retarted&quot; crap? EVERY single front office uses sabermetrics. all of them. And it was proven like 10 years ago that obp is more important than batting average by people way smarter than any of us. Just stop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you guys just admit obp is good and stop this &#8220;moneyball and sabermetrics are retarted&#8221; crap? EVERY single front office uses sabermetrics. all of them. And it was proven like 10 years ago that obp is more important than batting average by people way smarter than any of us. Just stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And if you don&#039;t swing at the stuff ON the plate merely because it&#039;s not your favorite pitch to hit the Pitchers get THAT message as well!

They also get the message that your not going to swing at the first pitch strike so might as well throw it and get into a pitchers count right away and take away the hitter&#039;s advantage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you don&#8217;t swing at the stuff ON the plate merely because it&#8217;s not your favorite pitch to hit the Pitchers get THAT message as well!</p>
<p>They also get the message that your not going to swing at the first pitch strike so might as well throw it and get into a pitchers count right away and take away the hitter&#8217;s advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Donal, a lot of us know you lack baseball knowledge about aproach at the plate, you&#039;ve never play the game yourself so you wouldn&#039;t know what a coach is telling you when you go to the plate.. It has been point out throughout baseball that if you work the count on your favor, you&#039;ll get a better pitch to hit, however, with this mets, it&#039;s the total opposite. you ever wonder why the mets lead the league in 2 strike hits and 2 strike RBI at some point? That&#039;s because the league caught up to them and their stupid ass phylosophy. did you check the stats of the mets went ahead 2-1 or 3-0 or even 3-1 in the count? their slugging % was amongst the worst in baseball, along with BA and RBI and HR. doesn&#039;t that tell you something? most of this hitters went in there looking for &quot;their&quot; pitch, but that pitch was normally after trying to work the count, at first the league wasn&#039;t aware of what the mets hitters were doing, but once they found out, they started throwing strikes, putting hitters in a hole right away, hence a lot of defensive swing and drop of productons on even the most prolific hitters on the team. therefore, most of the hitter became a bit more aggressive and that&#039;s why your lord SA made those ridiculous PPA comments, which turn out to be false as the mets hitters were taking one less pitch per at bat..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donal, a lot of us know you lack baseball knowledge about aproach at the plate, you&#8217;ve never play the game yourself so you wouldn&#8217;t know what a coach is telling you when you go to the plate.. It has been point out throughout baseball that if you work the count on your favor, you&#8217;ll get a better pitch to hit, however, with this mets, it&#8217;s the total opposite. you ever wonder why the mets lead the league in 2 strike hits and 2 strike RBI at some point? That&#8217;s because the league caught up to them and their stupid ass phylosophy. did you check the stats of the mets went ahead 2-1 or 3-0 or even 3-1 in the count? their slugging % was amongst the worst in baseball, along with BA and RBI and HR. doesn&#8217;t that tell you something? most of this hitters went in there looking for &#8220;their&#8221; pitch, but that pitch was normally after trying to work the count, at first the league wasn&#8217;t aware of what the mets hitters were doing, but once they found out, they started throwing strikes, putting hitters in a hole right away, hence a lot of defensive swing and drop of productons on even the most prolific hitters on the team. therefore, most of the hitter became a bit more aggressive and that&#8217;s why your lord SA made those ridiculous PPA comments, which turn out to be false as the mets hitters were taking one less pitch per at bat..</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You forgot to mention Terry Collins there....

“We went a year and a half here where we led all of baseball with on base percentage, base on balls.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to mention Terry Collins there&#8230;.</p>
<p>“We went a year and a half here where we led all of baseball with on base percentage, base on balls.”</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually Watchmen they teach it becauase it looks good on thier spreadsheet full of &quot;OBP is the Holy Grail&quot; biased Calculator columns they use to judge players with.

They keep whining about a lack of power yet who are the guys we all have heard wispers of not being here next year?

Wright, Duda, Davis and Hairston!

#1 through #4 in the HR column

These are the guys that we may need to let go to get better!
At least thats what seems to be what they are thinking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Watchmen they teach it becauase it looks good on thier spreadsheet full of &#8220;OBP is the Holy Grail&#8221; biased Calculator columns they use to judge players with.</p>
<p>They keep whining about a lack of power yet who are the guys we all have heard wispers of not being here next year?</p>
<p>Wright, Duda, Davis and Hairston!</p>
<p>#1 through #4 in the HR column</p>
<p>These are the guys that we may need to let go to get better!<br />
At least thats what seems to be what they are thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link.....interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link&#8230;..interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Generally, if you don&#039;t swing at the crap they throw off the plate, opposing pitchers get the message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally, if you don&#8217;t swing at the crap they throw off the plate, opposing pitchers get the message.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/58372/sandy-alderson-address-offseason-challenges?utm_source=twitterfeed&amp;utm_medium=twitter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/58372/sandy-alderson-address-offseason-challenges?utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=twitter" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/58372/sandy-alderson-address-offseason-challenges?utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=twitter</a></p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should ask Joe D, Bayonne, and alex. It seems to be what they zero in on when anyone discusses hitting and plate discipline.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should ask Joe D, Bayonne, and alex. It seems to be what they zero in on when anyone discusses hitting and plate discipline.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder why the hitters in the second half were, in Sandy&#039;s words &quot;Started to expand the strikezone, started to swing at pitches they couldn’t handle. Again, it was human nature of the fact that everybody wanted to step up and be the guy to right this ship.&quot;

Could it have been the burden of trying too hard because they knew they had to score more runs to create a bigger lead to protect the bullpen from blowing - on top of seeing that the starting pitching was starting to falter and thus that meant even more runs required to offset the more runs we were giving up?   

That, of course, is not Terry&#039;s fault.

But as far as drawing more walks, don&#039;t you think one has to also talk to the opposing pitcher about that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why the hitters in the second half were, in Sandy&#8217;s words &#8220;Started to expand the strikezone, started to swing at pitches they couldn’t handle. Again, it was human nature of the fact that everybody wanted to step up and be the guy to right this ship.&#8221;</p>
<p>Could it have been the burden of trying too hard because they knew they had to score more runs to create a bigger lead to protect the bullpen from blowing &#8211; on top of seeing that the starting pitching was starting to falter and thus that meant even more runs required to offset the more runs we were giving up?   </p>
<p>That, of course, is not Terry&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p>But as far as drawing more walks, don&#8217;t you think one has to also talk to the opposing pitcher about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Bayonne Mets Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bayonne Mets Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMF,

Instead of playing baseaball with 25 different talents that all have something to offer when you&#039;re trying to WIN and get to the post season the philosophy has shifted from playing ball, winning, and going after the other team to trying to get the starting  pitcher out of the game by making him throw as many pitches as possible.

That&#039;s what it is now - let&#039;s try and get the SP out of the game - regardless if it&#039;s a guy with a flat 85 mph fastball throwing hanging breaking balls that you would go after and attack or a Roy Halladay on a good day when he&#039;s throwing nothing but strikes and you have play a different kind of game completely.

Now it&#039;s all one approach.  Hello last place 2013. Already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMF,</p>
<p>Instead of playing baseaball with 25 different talents that all have something to offer when you&#8217;re trying to WIN and get to the post season the philosophy has shifted from playing ball, winning, and going after the other team to trying to get the starting  pitcher out of the game by making him throw as many pitches as possible.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what it is now &#8211; let&#8217;s try and get the SP out of the game &#8211; regardless if it&#8217;s a guy with a flat 85 mph fastball throwing hanging breaking balls that you would go after and attack or a Roy Halladay on a good day when he&#8217;s throwing nothing but strikes and you have play a different kind of game completely.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s all one approach.  Hello last place 2013. Already.</p>
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		<title>By: MetsWatchman</title>
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		<dc:creator>MetsWatchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really believe they teach this bulls**t passive approach just to compensate for their deficiency in having true productive sluggers in the line up. What a shame. I personally love the first pitch swinging approach. More times than none that is the best pitch a batter will see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really believe they teach this bulls**t passive approach just to compensate for their deficiency in having true productive sluggers in the line up. What a shame. I personally love the first pitch swinging approach. More times than none that is the best pitch a batter will see.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a sabermetric Moneyball thing....
Guys who walk don&#039;t get paid a lot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a sabermetric Moneyball thing&#8230;.<br />
Guys who walk don&#8217;t get paid a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well he did seem to say he wanted more base on balls not more hits...

&quot;We went a year and a half here where we led all of baseball with on base percentage, base on balls.&quot;

Aren&#039;t hits better than Walks?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well he did seem to say he wanted more base on balls not more hits&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;We went a year and a half here where we led all of baseball with on base percentage, base on balls.&#8221;</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t hits better than Walks?</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/10/collins-says-dudas-a-keeper-wants-his-players-committed-to-drawing-walks.html#comment-287810</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well the deeper you go into the count the more the Pticher knows about what strikes you don&#039;t like so he can pound you there the rest of the game!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the deeper you go into the count the more the Pticher knows about what strikes you don&#8217;t like so he can pound you there the rest of the game!</p>
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