20
2012
Arizona Acquires Heath Bell From Marlins, Oakland Gets Chris Young
An article by Hojo's Mojo
The Oakland Athletics acquired outfielder Chris Young and cash considerations from the Diamondbacks for middle infielder Cliff Pennington along with minor-league shortstop Yordy Cabrera to Arizona.
Arizona then turned around and traded Cabrera to the Miami Marlins in exchange for relief pitcher Heath Bell and cash considerations. I’m assuming Miami will be paying more than half of Bell’s remaining contract.
Here’s the breakdown:
- Miami Receives: Single-A shortstop Yordy Cabrera from Oakland and $13 million worth of salary relief.
- Arizona Receives: RP Heath Bell and $8 million of the $21 million remaining on his contract from Miami, and shortstop Cliff Pennington from Oakland.
- Oakland Receives: OF Chris Young and $500K from Arizona.
Bell, 35, was signed by the Marlins last offseason to a three-year, $27 million deal, but had a disastrous 2012 season. He blew eight saves and had a 5.09 ERA and 1.56 WHIP. Bell wore out his welcome after several contentious incidents with manager Ozzie Guillen this season.
Pennington, 28, played in 125 games for the A’s. He had 93 appearances at shortstop but was shifted to second base in last August. A switch hitter, Pennington hit .215 last season, including .168 against left-handers, and had 28 RBIs.
Young, 29, played in only 101 games in 2012, batting .231 with 24 doubles, 14 home runs, 41 RBIs and eight stolen bases. He injured his right shoulder crashing into a wall while making a catch early this season and struggled at the plate after. A quadriceps injury in early September sent Young to the bench in favor of Eaton.
This could be a sign the A’s might try to move center fielder Coco Crisp, who signed a $14 million, two-year contract in January that includes a $7.5 million club option for 2014 with a $1 million buyout.
There was some talk this season that the Mets may have had interest in Chris Young, but that’s no longer a consideration now.
Looks like some teams are already on the move as the Hot Stove season gets underway before the World Series has even started.
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I wasnt aware that teams could make trades until before the World Series was over.
Perhaps Alderson wasnt aware either.
there are rules about when you can announce things. since today is an off day, guess it was OK.
It does seem that you don’t see many trades this early. If nothing else, you don’t even get into a lot of the options, tenders, etc. until 5 days after the WS.
LMAO!!!! >.< Thats hilarious!!!! Taskmaster
hahaha good one man….see guys I told you he needed to move quicker!
Good one, pretty funny. lol
Oh wow, teams can actually make creative moves to get rid of bad contracts. This is mind-blowing. If only our front office knew what proactivity was.
That said, it’s good to hear that the offseason is already upon us. But if Heath Bell and a not high profile prospect was enough to get Chris Young, couldn’t we have sent them Parnell and a not high profile prospect? Hindsight’s always 20/20. But for the Mets to improve in 2013, we have to be proactive and creative like other teams seem to be.
Heath Bell did not get Young. The A’s got Young “for middle infielder Cliff Pennington along with minor-league shortstop Yordy Cabrera to Arizona.”
It’s a three way deal.
How ironic,
And i’ve been a proponent of the three-way deal as a means of exploring even more options to move Wright as opposed to just 2 teams agreeing and making a move. Get another team involved and open your options just like Arizona did. And if the Marlins are paying for most of Bell’s contract and all it cost Zona was a minor league SS who hit no higher than .232 in A ball, not bad.
But Sandy is a genius. Sandy is “patient”.
And also what did i say before about this being the third straight off season of almost on a daily basis we see other teams making moves that are not far off from what the Mets are able to do.
It’s early but here we go again – teams making moves and the Mets fan base wondering where our Front Office is on it
The other factor to take into account is that I’m sure that Miami was tripping over themselves to get rid of the guy.
I’ll give Loria credit for one thing. When his grandiose plan to go along with his shiny new stadium failed miserably, didn’t take him long to start tearing it down and starting over.
I wonder how long before Reyes is back in NY wearing pinstripes.
if you are going to blow something up, at least do it right.
Don’t give him credit, this is what the Marlins organization has always done. 1997, buy a World Series team. 1998, blow it up. 2003, have young talent (bolstered by a short-term signing of Ivan Rodriguez to appease the local “fanbase”) win a World Series. 2004, blow it up (didn’t offer Pudge an extension, traded/let go other key pieces). 2012, try to bolster ticket sales at new stadium. 2013, blow it up (the team, that is).
This isn’t Loria (though he’s part of their problem), this is a long-term issue with the franchise and is simply history repeating itself.
Bell didn’t do himself any favors with some of his comments this season. Can’t say I’m surprised by this other than that it was announced now rather than after the W.S.
Maybe Bell can pitch better out in Arizona. DBacks reportedly have him for 2 years $13M with Miami picking up $8M of his remaining contract.
Wonder if Josh Johnson will be next?
‘Wonder if Josh Johnson will be next?’
Read an article last night that the Loria is shopping JJ also.
So, a bad reliever, an average at best OF and some smaller pieces were moved around today. If we are upset because the Mets didn’t get Young, we need to re-evaluate how we think, completely.
But other teams did stuff!!!!!!unnecessaryexclamationpoints!!!!!
So disappoint.
#BlameAlderson
Well, if he was involved and did acquire Young, we’d see all those hoisting their pitchforks and lighting up their torches because Young is expensive and sucks.
#JustAngryInGeneral
Just #BlameBeltran. That always seems to suffice. lol.
Lol
To many fans want moves made just to make moves regardless of whether it actually improves things.
I thought I read where the DBacks picked up Putz’ option. Looks like Bell is a setup man.
nothing saying they are done with moves anyway.
From reports, their primary goal was to move the excess (and expensive) OFs. So, step 1 down. remains to be seen if Bell is going to be part of their pen next year.
It’s not this one particular move, and I’m sure you guys know that. It’s about the way the things have been going on here the past few years. We see other teams moving bad contracts and filling needs, while we sit on the sidelines doing nothing. This is just another example of that.
I agree it would be silly to get upset about this one move, but it’s not about just one move. It’s that this FO has done almost nothing to upgrade the major league roster since they have been here. Fans are getting frustrated about that, and they should be.
I completely get you and the frustration. But at the same time, Oakland got an OF that makes 8.5 Million + a 1.5 Million buy out and they only got $500K relief. I looked at his numbers and yikes. For 8 million, no thanks. I can’t see flipping out about inaction when you take into account what was actually moved. I’m actually surprised the Marlins only had to kick in 8 Mil.
Now, had it been Upton that was moved and the purchase price was paltry, then yeah, I’d be a little upset.
And there still is a chance Parra can be had.
C. Young. $8.5M next year for a guy who doesnt hit much better than Duda.
By the way, this wasnt a three team deal but two separate deals worked by the DBacks.
It’s a 3-team deal.
I highly doubt Arizona made one deal without knowing already having the other one in hand. You do not know if the Marlins wanted this SS ahead of time but could not come up with a match for Oakland. I sincerely doubt that this was 2 different deal made completely independent of each other.
Every news outlet i’m reading is reporting this either as a three-team trade or a 3-way deal.
Which it is.
And?
You are right Bayonne. Players don’t get flipped within ten minutes of being acquired unless it was pre-agreed to. The bottom line is that most 3-team deals are reported as two 2-team deals to the commissioners office.
Whether it’s two 2′s or one 3 makes no difference in the result. But it tells me we don’t have too many chess players here. Let’s get back to Chemistry 101 and basic algebra.
semantics. is there a difference between all 3 guys discussing together, and 1 guy (AZ) working separate deals with each end?
yeah there is,
And the fact that this is called a three-way deal, always has been called a three-way deal bothers you because?
It’s not a three way deal. Not even a little bit. What players did the Marilins and A’s exchange? Why didn’t that minor league SS go directly from Oakland to Miami? Flipping a player doesn’t mean it’s a three way deal. Then I guess the Mets, Marlins and Dodgers had a three way deal for Piazza? Desperately wanting this to be a three team deal so you can go on more rants doesn’t make it it true, it just makes you desperate and still wrong.
We can always go to the source on this. “PHOENIX — The D-backs wasted little time getting busy this offseason as they acquired relief pitcher Heath Bell and shortstop Cliff Pennington in a pair of trades with the Marlins and A’s on Saturday.”
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121020&content_id=39953000&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
Or…
A’s bolster outfield depth with deal for Young – “In exchange for Young and cash considerations totaling $500,000 to offset the All-Star’s salary, the A’s traded away infielder Cliff Pennington and infield prospect Yordy Cabrera, who was then flipped to the Marlins in a deal for reliever Heath Bell.”
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121020&content_id=39953578&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
“Arizona obtained Pennington and minor league infielder Yordy Cabrera from Oakland for Young and cash, then sent Cabrera to the Miami Marlins for Bell. The Marlins will pay $8 million of the remaining $21 million Bell is owed.”
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8528926/arizona-diamondbacks-acquire-heath-bell-trade-chris-young-pair-deals (notice the words in the url)
Each of the teams’ websites show the same thing. Not a three-team deal, not matter how creative you want it to be.
It’s a 3-way deal like every single professional media outlet is reporting it to be
The fact that you weren’t in the respective rooms of all the parties involved when they agreed to the conditions of how these players were moving doesn’t mean shit. It only means something to your own little bullshit agenda.
It’s a 3-way deal and these things have always been called 3-way deals even though you and your ilk like to think you’re re-inventing the game here in every way.
“It’s a 3-way deal like every single professional media outlet is reporting it to be.”
You know, except MLB, the individual teams, ESPN. But those guys don’t count because you ignore facts. And I have an agenda?
MLB Trade Rumors is saying it’s a three-team deal.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/10/dbacks-acquire-heath-bell-in-three-team-deal.html
Young is ten times the defender that Dud is. Much more valuable than the Dud.
And our GM just sits around waiting for something to happen….
There is no way you could possibly know that. At all.
Although, whether or not other GMs are laughing him off of the phone because of what the Mets have to offer……well, that’d be another story.
“Although, whether or not other GMs are laughing him off of the phone because of what the Mets have to offer……well, that’d be another story.”
You mean like asking another GM for their #1 prospect in return for Scott Hairston??? lol….Naaaaaahhhh Sandy would never lol
Or getting a team’s #1 pitching prospect for a 2 month rental? Works both ways.
You mean an allstar 2 month/PLAYOFF rental….Big difference….too bad the rest of the Giants stunk and blew it…but as you can see Beltran is still tearing it up with the Cards regular season and playoff…Wheeler has yet to pay dividends
Unfortunately for Alderson only a moron would give up a top prospect for a Platoon player/PH.
Yes, I mean an allstar 2 month rental. Point stands.
Carlos Beltran is on another planet compared to Scott Hairston
your point has no legs
you and your point can sit down now
no, it was a rental for 2 months. the Giants missed the playoffs.
Yeah because Posey was MIA….
Where would they and St Louis be if they had kept him this year?
You know how I know?
because NOTHING HAS HAPPENED!
And your assertion that we have no one to trade is sort of weak since I don’t see any can’t miss talent in this deal…
lol.
Well, I find your assertion that NOTHING HAS HAPPENED pretty weak because the time stamp on your comment says October 20th.
So tell us what you think has happened?
I say nothing happened if you wish to prove otherwise tell us what DID happen…
This was your initial comment that I was responding to:
‘And our GM just sits around waiting for something to happen….”
You don’t know if he hasn’t been making calls just as I know he has been. That’s the point.
Yes I looked at his phone bill…No call!
Just tweets about tires….
The one call he got on Hairston he demanded a top BA prospect…
Since then the phone simply doesn’t ring!
Now prove he HAS made calls…
Even if you can prove he is making calls nothing is happening as a result!
Other teams don’t seem to have that problem count the number of trades this guy has made in two years….
There are about 5 total! If that many….
He’s talking about Sandy’s 3 years Hamlet imitation of hemming & hawing the last 3 offseasons while other teams make nice moves acquiring good, affordable players that can help you win in transactions that were well affordable to the Mets.
And moving bad contracts too.
I also see that bronze statue of Sandy sitting on his hands.
3 years? The man was hired two years ago next week.
I forgot who said it but I still have the vision of a bronze statue of Sandy Alderson sitting on his hands….lol….
Sandy needs to pick up the phone and speed dial Billy Beane and ask him how the hell to put together an OF. Beane had NOONE in the OF last free agency and boom season starts and thats a team strength with DEPTH to boot.
I could envision Sandys biggest move this offseason being a Reed Johnson type…smh…
#NoHopeForMetsFansInSight
Chris Young would have filled a need in CF, solid defensive player, solid offense, definite upgrade over Torres. Not sure if Mets were ever in the conversation, but from what Alderson has told us in conference calls in the past, he likes to wait awhile to see how certain markets develop and is usually only interested in gauging interest until December during the winter meetings if he’s going to pull the trigger on something. He calls it lining up possibilities and creating options. Most of the progressive GM’s work much quicker and like to set the pace and that’s what you’re seeing here. I’m certain Rizzo and Amaro will be in the news very soon as well.
He may be a solid CF D (which I would say yeah, this team needs that), but he’s a career .239 hitter, has hit over .250 just once in his entire career (.257!) and while he has power, he’s really not worth getting excited over. plus, he’ll cost you about 10 mil in salary and buy out. Unless you were trading Santana for Young straight up, no money changing hands, there is no way I’d want Young under the circumstances he was acquired under.
He’s averaged a 4.0 WAR in three seasons, which takes a lot more different areas into consideration than just batting alone. This front office dont look at batting average anyway. Last three years Young has a 5.2, 4.6, 1.9 WAR. He has power and bats right-handed two huge needs for the Mets. His 162 game average per BR is 27 HR, 75 RBI, 20 SB with plus defense. I dont know how many CF there are who can do all that and are available in trade.
That’s the thing Joe,
You argue your points from a baseball point of view while all the others try to debate you with their idea of Sandy’s point of view. It has nothing to do with their own hope of the Mets wanting to win, it’s about their interpretation of what Sandy is thinking is more like it.
Hi Bayonne,
You are so right – there is the myth of Sandy the baseball man versus the reality of Sandy the businessman and I believe there are many who need to hang onto the myth of Sandy for to see Sandy Alderson for what he really is- a legal and financial mind and little else – would shatter the validity of money ball and sabremetrrics in the real world of professional baseball.
Joe, you make good points. I understand them. He’s a better CF option than anything else on the Mets at this point. But he’s a decent player who is trending down. He makes good coin. His WAR of 5.2 was his best year ever, 2 years ago. The two years before that… 1.2 and -0.2. 5 year average of 2.54. As to not cherry pick numbers, yeah, he’d help this team better than the goof balls we have in the OF right now, but that ain’t saying much.
We both know, under the parameters of this trade, the A’s basically added 8 mil to their payroll. The Mets cannot do that. Maybe Sandy had a deal worked out but required the D’backs to pay 1.5 mil, vs. 0.5 mil. Maybe Sandy was sipping on Mai Tai’s at his beach house. We don’t know, either way.
Could the Mets use Young’s baseball ability? Yes. Could they handle the payroll increase required to have him on the team? No. I wish the team had the ability to live within the vacuum of not being restrained by money. They don’t. As such, AZ moved a large salaried OF from which they had about 5-6 capable bodies to man said outfield to acquire a middle infielder and a BP arm. The team getting Young added 8 Mil + the buyout to their roster. All these facts say this was not a match, move along, nothing to see here, these aren’t the droids you are looking for.
young is obviously an upgrade over Torres. Remains to be seen if he will be an upgrade over whoever is actually playing CF in 2013 for the Mets.
but he is not a difference maker that is going to vault them into the playoffs, and he is not likely to be a LT option (or part of the new foundation for years to come) with a 2014 contract cost of 11mill.
so basically, he would be a 1 year stop gap.
and the reality is, the team has a payroll to live with that would mean Young would have been it for the year.
so I find it hard to believe that adding Young instead of the other CF options is the difference between 4th place and WC.
there is also always an opportunity cost. Spend your money and trade your chips, and you can’t use them for anyone else.
anyway, instead of trading for young, maybe they can pry Gomez away from the Twins?
Isn’t Gomez on the Beer makers?
What about Span from the Twinkies?
So yes, I think there are other options out there better than C. Young. Oakland now has a surplus of OF…
You mean Carlos? He’s been on the brewers for 3 years. But yeah the mets should get him.
Milwaukee, Minnesota, Midwest, all the same…
but yeah, that is the guy. And if the player cost is not out of line, I would rather have him than Young.
hey Joe – I can’t agree that Young is solid offensively, just cannot. Defensively sure – I an concede that but Arizona also ended up getting a closer for now (that they hope turns it around) and an infielder to play right now.
If we concede that Young plays in a very hitter friendly park then you have to look at this:
Since 2010′s season, the guy has hit .225 on the road. Okay that’s not like saying the guy went from .300 to .270 and no biggy.
.225 over the last 3 years on the road? Sorry that is atrocious. If you want to say hey lets give up on O in CF and focus on D – then I have no argument. But to say he’s solid offensively? Sorry cannot come with you on that.
Joe, this is a very valid point. I mean, is there a way to prove that the newer school GMs move faster? That is a legit question, btw.
If the trend is that these GMs just generally move faster now then they used to, and Alderson is “old school” in that he hangs back and “lets the market develop,” then that is definitely a problem.
You can’t be the only one who does that, or you will be out in the cold. I find this a very real concern, actually.
Good question, and one I cant really answer. The only reason I shared the info on Alderson is because he said that to us for two off seasons in a row. A few times I say he’s out of his element and it’s not because I want to insult him, I don’t, he’s a great person. I say that because he reminds me of how GM’s operated in the 70s and 80s and part of the early 90s. Today’s GM’s navigate in a fast paced environment and don’t hesitate if they feel they can improve their team. In 2010 offseason Jon Heyman reported that a few teams at Winter Meetings told him they were frustrated with the Mets because everything had to be discussed ad nauseum and dragged out. he said they couldn’t make decisions easily.
Thing is…is it really getting all bent out of shape b/c the Marlins made the first off season trade, the Mets didn’t and the Mets haven’t done anything yet? It’s 20 October, not 20 March.
I get the impression the priorities were to see if Wright and Dickey could be extended. Wanted to move fast on that. If that doesn’t happen, the Mets off season moves will be vastly different if they’re trading either/or then if they sign them.
Let’s see where we stand a few months down the road.
I have a friend that used this same trick when clubbing wait til all the cute girls are taken by other guys then he’d swoop in like a hawk for the leftovers(ugly chicks) that nobody wanted.
Translation: Dumpster diving…
I still dont get why the Wilpons went to the lengths they did to get rid of the autobody shops around Citi Field claiming it resembles a dump when what they put on the field is no better
“He calls it lining up possibilities and creating options”
LOL I call it waiting for all the expensive/good players to get taken so the cheap crap is easily identified and ripe for the picking.
“Chris Young would have filled a need in CF”
Crappy hitter? I think we have that already
” solid defensive player”
We have the all glove not stick guys.
“solid offense”
Ya, he did a great job in Arizona, the second best hitters park in baseball. How did he do outside?
.224/.311/.409…I guess you and I have different definitions of “solid”. Mine includes “doesn’t suck”.
So, and extra $8 million is salary for….what we already have.
Or are you sad we didn’t get Heath Bell?
Have faith Mets fans we have “3 GENERAL MANAGERS” while those othersuckers in the MLB have only 1. Not to mention the highest paid front office in the league.
Cant wait til Sandy signs Juan Pierre and announces the signing as if he was the next coming of Willie Mays
I’m remnded of the three headed knich in Monty Python and the holy grail…
While the three headed monster argued amongst themselves Brave Sir Robin ran away…Bravely ran away way!
Personally I think moving Jason Bay to Seattle for Chone Figgins would be ideal…
Jason Bay can only play LF…a position that is the only one Lucas Duda can play…
Chone Figgins can play LF, 3B, and 2B and is actually decent defense wise
Trading for Figgins really makes some sense…
especially if they are going to cry broke when the first wave of arb players come through…hint hint Daniel Murphy…
David Wright is as good as gone….if we get a top SS, CF, or C for him STRAIGHT UP, I pull the trigger…if they include one of those and anything more…I cant press the red button fast enough…
that obviously opens up a hole at 3B…
but unfortunately….one of the guys that can fill the hole ( Murph ) is going to get too expensive soon…
and when i say expensive…i mean more than 900K per year…
1B – Ike
2B – Tejada
SS – acquired in a trade this year
3B – Figgins…rebuilds his value and is traded to make way for Flores ?
C – Shoppach…with Thole in the Mirabelli role
RF – Valdy
CF – Kirk
LF – Duda
Valdy and Kirk are more than athletic enough to handle the OF
Duda we will have to live with
If the Wilpons didnt trash Ike a few months ago, i would’ve said his off year in 2012 would’ve given them MORE leverage in the hopes of an extension…
But the wilpons completely defecated on themselves and have burned that bridge….theres a better chance Nelson Doubleday comes back as a minority owner than Ike Davis signs an extension with Freddy Krueger Coupon
the beauty of Bay is that he is so bad, that I don’t think you can find a player that would be worse to have instead, if the $ are a wash.
If I have to choose between Kirk Nieuwenhuis or Chris Young to play CF every day in 2013 I choose Nieuwenhuis every time.
I know they say Kirk is the plan, but I’m saying I would be shocked if he’s the Opening Day center fielder.
Kirk goes against everything this front office believes in.
His 98 K’s in 280 AB with a .690 OPS are Francoeur-esque and he’s no baby at 25.
If this front office really believes in this philosophy they keep talking about, Kirk is the antithesis to it. Nieuwenhuis is to Alderson what Kryptonite is to Superman.
I can’t say who will be the Opening Day CF that is something that remains to be seen but speaking for myself if the choice is between the 2 mentioned I can sleep well with Kirk in CF and Young somewhere else. I just can not get upset that Chris Young is not a Met. Going forward what I look for is that whoever the choice is to be the CF in 2013 that he be a better choice than a Chris Young if Kirk will not be the CF.
Pagan is better than Young… Any interest?
You think he’d turn down SF if they offered him a 13.3 mil, 1 year deal?
Will they offer that? I’m not convinced. I actually thought it was conceivable at 11-12M but now I just dont know.
If Pagan is better than Young, why in the blue hell would the Mets want Young?
That was sarcasm, in the sense that no, Pagan is far inferior to Young.
Wait until you see my post tomorrow, I think you’ll be both proud and astonished. lol
If you’re going to use WAR again, I’m not interested.
Which one? The 2012 Pagan or the 2011 Pagan? You can keep the 2011 Pagan and the 2012 Torres while we are at it.
I’d rather look at least for the player who will be the 2013 version of either the 2010 Torres or 2012 Pagan. If you know who that will be then your talking.
well u would have to find out if the 2013 version is going to get along with TC…and make less than the 2011 version of Pagan ( 3 mil ? )
Amazing
Marlins can get rid of Bell and only eat 8 of the 21 million owed. Huge win for them
Snacks are the loser in this trade – 13 million for two years of as a set up man is mind boggling
Arizona is a hitters paradise and he couldn’t get guys in Miami in a pitchers park
There’s no such thing as an immovable contract. If you’ve watched baseball long enough you learn that good GMs can do anything they set their minds to. Deals like this require conversation, creativity and dealing in good faith.
I think I had the Mets version of this trade last week where I traded Fatty Fran, Murphy and a prospect for Young and Parra. Some said Arizona would need another closer…
If Kirk Neiwenhuis and Josh Thole are starters on this team next year, I am taking the year off from baseball. I can’t take this garbage anymore.
Amen.
Since the Mets are seemingly content on stinking it up and waiting for the $50MM owed to Santana and Bay to come off, I might join you in taking this boycott until 2014…you know, like our Mets.
A “separation” was suggested to me by a buddy. Take a year off, get some space, come back refreshed in 2014. It is sounding very appealing.
Can you imagine 4-5 regulars in the lineup with an OPS around .650? Might be worse than 1962.
Oh,whoah is us! Why couldn’t we get Heath Bell?! He’d have done wonders here!
Why didn’t Old Man Sandy get us a guy who hits .224/.311/.409 outside of the second best hitters park in baseball?! That is totally what this team needs! I’m sure he would’ve done great in Citi Field, especially against a division with pitching 5x better than the NL West.
And I’m totally sure the people now mad the Mets didn;t get a deal like this done wouldn’t be throwing around the stuff I just said.
A point some of you are missing in regards to Miami’s firesale and spending is that they never really mortgaged thier Minors or fufure to make that spending….
Their MiL system is about as intact and as built up (from the years of losing) as it was when they started last offseason.
It did not even cost them a first rounder as thier pick was protected and we were relegated to sub 1st round picks for letting Reyes go.
All they did was spend money and it really didn’t hurt them in the long term.
In fact those who like what Sandy has done in the past should probably be appluading what they did because now they are trading money for more kids to stockpile thier Minor system aren’t they?
In fact under the new CBA rules what they are doing is the ONLY way to get kids for signing top FA’s short term.
They basically turned thier money in kids by giving it to the guys they did and trading them off for the cost of cash!
It’s almost like BUYING prospects!