Comments on: Wright Ties All-Time Mets Hit Record In 10-6 Loss To The Pirates http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:24:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-285085 Metsie Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:28:55 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-285085 Yep it’s always a risk even if they aren’t great that you will get less than you gave when all is said and done.

I just think that when you look at our rotation while guys like mejia and familia might have the potential to be great pitchers in the MLB will they ever break into our rotation and get the opportunity to show it?

And if not it’s just a wasted commodity then.
Even if you had the best tasting apples money could buy you don’t get the benefit from them if you never eat them.
And in time they will just rot and be worthless.

I do support them continuing to develop both Mejia and Familia as starters while they are here.
And if a trade of a guy like Mejia (if he has that promise surely someone else sees it as well) when added to a McHugh (who will not be a major rotation guy here but could break in someplace like Colorado), then thats an enticing package to get an everyday OFer or catcher (assuming they have those things and matchup well)

And take that risk that they may get more from them than you could but at least you got something you didn’t have and needed.

It all comes down to finding the right matchup and trade partner.
Find a team who is weak on pitching but strong on OF or catcher and you have the team to make a deal with.

]]> By: Mike Lloyd http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-285067 Mike Lloyd Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:10:20 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-285067 Agreed metsie…beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Even then, How much can a McHugh and others like him even when packaged together, really be expected to fetch? Guys like Mejia and Familia will bring stronger returns, but are risky to deal…what will we all say if Mejia develops a change up and forkball or Familia harnesses his control and improves his secondary pitches? We’ll be screaming we traded Justin Turner and Jenrry Mejia to Colorado for whom? You know what I mean…the better the talent you trade the higher the risk you get burned…

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-285033 Metsie Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:13:17 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-285033 Regardless of what he actually is in the league to US he is at best a 4A or maybe even 6A pitcher.

It is doubtful he can break into a rotation here with the likes of:
Dickey
Harvey
Niese
Wheeler and Gee

But he might have no problem breaking into a rotation in Colorado!
Which makes him more valuable to someone else than he is to us!

And one of the few things Sandy said last night that actually made some sense was to evaluate players based on who was more valuable to someone else than they are to us!

McHugh would seem to fit those parameters perfectly! As would Duda. There are others in the Minors that fit as well.

Mejia and Familia will probably never start for us and be relegated to the pen, But someplace else they could be 3rd 4th and 5th starters because they don’t have the guys we have holding them back there.

They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Well value is in the eye of the guy who is weak where your strong!

And if Sandy recognizes this and makes some moves based on that approach we find find guys like McHugh are worth something we need!

]]> By: Mike Lloyd http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-285019 Mike Lloyd Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:49:38 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-285019 Thanks metsie and alex for leaping to my defense. However harsh xtreem seemed to be with my assessment of McHugh, or how harsh my comment was it doesn’t bother me or change my opinion of him as a pitcher… A 4A journeyman type, who is 25 and a borderline mlb pitcher. He gave me no tangible reason to alter my opinion…and I believe my assessment will prove correct.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284984 Metsie Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:15:01 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284984 You were not too harsh just being realistic and looking at the difference from a McHugh to a Harvey!

Don’t let the Sandy Bullies get to you!
They will all be gone in a year and become Oakland fans because you know Selig was smart to add a wildcard spot and that makes Beane a genius and validate the trade of Gio Gonzales!

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284975 Metsie Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:08:15 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284975 Ok you let me know when Mommy or Daddy start posting under your nick so I can be quiet then little boy!

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284798 Donal Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:15:55 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284798 The problem is, what is it identifying? Brock was caught nearly 1/3 of the time. Even when he stole 118 in 1974, he was caught 33 times.

]]> By: Alex68 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284759 Alex68 Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:20:51 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284759 Congrats to my favorite met of all time…. David Wright for tying the mets all time hits record, ironic he tied the record with a CLUTCH hit :-D
Congrats DW.

]]> By: Alex68 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284757 Alex68 Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:18:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284757 Mike, it’s your opinion and everyone should respect it whether they like it or not, not sure why xtreeme called you out, let me say this for you: Mchugh looks like a miguel batista type pitcher. i don’t care if he’s 25 or 15.. the kid came in and had a nice start, good for him, he quickly got figure out and does not show me nor anyone anything that makes you wonder he’d be a top notch caliber pitcher. some people in here pick certain people to bully them into saying whatever they wanted to say not what they wanted to listen to, typical mets fans. I admire you for your patient and not telling xtreem to go FU** himself. But of course, had that been me i would’ve been called out but since it was him he gets a pass.

]]> By: Mike Lloyd http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284742 Mike Lloyd Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:22:16 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284742 Perhaps I was a bit harsh in my assessment…perhaps not…Niese was a bit better early on than McHugh. He was lefthanded, had that 12 to 6 curve that was a plus pitch and had developed the cutter.
McHugh on the other hand is a righty with average stuff, no real plus pitches. Satish points out below, McHugh’s age which I believe works against him as well…Not trying to discount the kid, just don’t see anything more than that…I’ve been wrong before, just what I see and my opinion, do you see a higher ceiling than a possible # 5 starter or maybe middle or long guy than that? I just don’t see much more than that…

]]> By: Satish Ram http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284727 Satish Ram Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:08:40 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284727 ERA under 4 and only three walks in 18.2 IP before tonight’s start.

His debut was very impressive, and he’s 25.

Way too quick to make a decision – I agree with you.

]]> By: XtreemIcon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284722 XtreemIcon Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:46:01 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284722 I wasn’t aware Colin McHugh was a prophet. I thought he was one of those “Thanks, Omar” kids I wasn’t supposed to like and didn’t think was any good. Just mind your own business when the adults are talking and stop trying to instigate. No one was attacking anybody and Mike was man enough to carry on a legit conversation. The time someone says that about you will be the first.

]]> By: XtreemIcon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284720 XtreemIcon Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:42:43 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284720 I see a kid with enough starts to count on one hand that hasn’t even had the league adjust to him, let alone seeing how he re-adjusts to that. I’ve been watching baseball a long time as well, and I don’t pretend to be smart enough to look at roughly 20 innings of work and know the kind of career someone’s going to have. By your logic, the Mets should never even have tendered Niese a contract for 2009.

]]> By: Mike Lloyd http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284706 Mike Lloyd Wed, 26 Sep 2012 05:25:24 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284706 Beware of false prophets bearing gifts….LOL

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284698 Metsie Wed, 26 Sep 2012 04:53:22 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284698 Don’t mind him, He’s just another one of those who insists on attacking anyone insulting THE PROPHET!

]]> By: Mike Lloyd http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284696 Mike Lloyd Wed, 26 Sep 2012 04:33:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284696 No offense Xtreem…Been watching baseball since the early ’70′s….Name something the kid does that you say…”gonna be a keeper”…Is he a bulldog? Is his stuff special? If he doesn’t have pinpoint control can he be successful? Do his pitches dance? I’m not mapping out his career, but what is it you see that I don’t?

]]> By: XtreemIcon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284694 XtreemIcon Wed, 26 Sep 2012 04:23:44 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284694 Well, what are you doing posting on a fansite then? I mean, three starts and you already have his career mapped out? Why hasn’t some front office snapped you up?

]]> By: Mike Lloyd http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284693 Mike Lloyd Wed, 26 Sep 2012 04:18:48 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284693 Tough one to watch tonight….McHugh….I hate saying it, but the kid just isin’t more than a journeyman ala Hefner….I really just don’t see it, the wonderful debut aside….
Congrats to DW, the Question is, Will he get many more than Eddie Kranepool did as a Met?
I agree with Stick about Francisco….Your committed to him next season, why keep trying to get him going and risk further complications in meaningless games for the vets?
The Carson thing just shows once again that you never know when a young guy with talent can just have a problem, and even if the MRI shows nothing, an injury like this could ruin his trade value or impact the front office planning for ’13 and beyond….a shame….
I thought the Ramirez pitch to Barajas with the bases full was way outside, but the ump helped him there…
Hey Satish, you’re allowed to say it, Alderson sucks the life out of the room in interviews….as he did with the clubhouse before the deadline….

]]> By: hotstreak http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284687 hotstreak Wed, 26 Sep 2012 03:40:41 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284687 Maybe Valdyspin can be a Lou Brock type. Brock swung hard and hit his share of homers, he did not walk that much and struck out alot. Of course the SB is the major identifyer.

]]> By: Stick http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/09/wright-ties-all-time-mets-hit-record-in-10-6-loss-to-the-pirates.html#comment-284681 Stick Wed, 26 Sep 2012 03:08:47 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=97228#comment-284681 just shut Franky down at this point and let him start healing.

and have to give Elvin credit. Rough start, but he stepped it up after the 1 run scored and got out of it, and even gave them a clean 2nd inning.

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