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Mets Dealt A 5-1 Loss By The Redbirds
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The Mets (64-72) lost to the Cardinals (74-62) by the score of 5-1 on Tuesday evening at Busch Stadium.
0-14 with RISP so far this series will win you no games.
Harvey was the man on the mound for the Mets and looked like he was uncomfortable out there. Although, admittedly, the only Met that looked comfortable pitching out there tonight was Familia. Harvey got through five innings, allowing six hits and walking three. He allowed three earned runs, all in the second, and struck out four. The Cardinals seemed to be well prepared for Harvey, who also struggled with his control at times on the evening. 55 of his 92 pitches were strikes. In his defense, I personally do not think the hits against him were exactly scalded, so if this is a bad Harvey start, sign me up.
Justin Hampson took over for the sixth, and a timely steal of third by Descalso led to an RBI groundout – leaving Hampson’s line at 1 IP with an earned run and hit. Ramon Ramirez allowed two hits and a walk in the seventh, but only allowed one earned run through it all. Jeurys Familia made his MLB debut and pitched a scoreless inning with a strikeout. Nice. 97 MPH with ease.
Offense lacked a pulse for most of this game, but they scattered nine hits against Jaime Garcia. The Mets only run came about after Descalso botched a double play on a DWright grounder (Who called it?) and the Mets ended up with a mere sacrifice fly from pinch hitter Mike Baxter with the bases loaded and one out. No extra base hits and 8 men LOB.
That is about it, save for a nice defensive play by Torres late in the game to keep more runs from scoring.
Notes
We saw a real glimpse of the future tonight with Harvey and Familia in the same game, although I do expect Familia to start at some point.
Bay picked up a hit and his average rose to .169. I just… I cannot believe what has happened to this guy.
Wright, Tejada, and Hairston each had two hits.
Since AS break, the Mets offense has been ranked 15th or dead last in almost all offensive categories in the NL, according to SNY. Their overall numbers with a 2-0 count are pretty discouraging, too.
Scary moment in the first where Harvey took a hit off a comebacker. He is fine, though.
Up Next
Get out those good luck charms folks, because RA Dickey takes the mound not only to try and avoid the sweep for the Mets, but also aiming for win number 18. He faces a tough task in Cardinals ace Adam Wainwright, who has 13 wins to his own credit, and holds a 3.90 ERA. The potential pitching duel gets underway at 12:45 CT time, so 1:45 on the east coast.
Tricky Dick for Prez Cy Young! The last time the Mets had an 18-game winner? 1990. They had two of them. Know who they are? Here’s a hint. Sweet Music. The other is too good to forget.
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|---|---|---|---|---|
| Braves | 42 | 30 | .583 | - |
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| Nationals | 34 | 36 | .486 | 7.0 |
| Mets | 27 | 40 | .403 | 12.5 |
| Marlins | 22 | 48 | .314 | 19.0 |
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Congrats to Familia on his MLB Debut tonight. I loved how after he struck out Berkman he walked around the mound confidently as if to suggest “Yea that’s right I belong here.”
He was hitting 97mph and it looked like he was hitting it effortlessly. Like he had more if he needed to notch it up a bit which from all accounts he does.
That kid was pumping some serious cheddar.
If Jeurys Familia can maintain his command the Mets have a possible future ace. Last night he did everything expected of him by the Mets. With Wheeler and Harvey and some other strong arms, the future looks bright.
Not every kid has to be an ace to be very valuable to the team though. I think the Mets are going to need a closer out of this group as well so Mejia or Familia might save the Mets 10′s of millions while also providing a lock down back of the pen instead of having to go out and sign FA to relieve every year.
And it always goes back to the same crap.. Save money. What for though? for the wilpons to pocket the money as they did last year??? Sad reality this FO has put in the fans mind…
See below and I think we will be in agreement for once.
Spin looked more in control of his emotions at the plate and got a nice double down the RF line. Can he be a legtimate CF I do not know. But as a corner OF I think he would be fine and that is full time. He needs Arizona Fall League or Winter ball.
First of all, FAMILIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
second of all, i feel sorry for Harvey to be up in the bigs pitching for this sorry ass team that SA put together. But to be fair, the kid was just all over the place, it seems he was guiding his fastball, and when a pitcher does that he losses control. he did not use his change up and seemed tired because he had to work to throw those 92 pitches. one more start for him and shut him down, no need to over use him
Third of all, did anybody see bobby ojeda rant on the mets phylosophy of waiting approach?? he went off!!!! once again, pointing out how sorry this new phylosphy is of waiting for your pitch crap that has been install on the NY METS and rightfully so, hell, even the numbers back it up, this time he said we did not need to only see it with our OWN EYES:
Here’s the breakdown on the mets hitter with 2-0 count, which is consider to be the best count for hitters:
MLB RANK
AT BATS 101 28TH
AVG 327 21ST
HR 5 25TH
RBI 15 27TH
SLG 564 21ST
Those are just sad numbers!! he went off about it rightfully so, no wonder some of the sabergooners in here don’t like him all of the sudden, it’s because he sh*** on the new pathetic aproach, he was also mentioning how pitchers adjusted to the mets phylosphy and that’s one of the reasons why the offense is struggling, hitters are in quick 0-2 1-2 holes and can’t hit “their” pitch as they were teach with this new “phylosphy”.
Very sad situation with the mets, the FO sucks, their mentality sucks, the way they go about their business sucks.
And still you’d find people in this very blog who somehow like the direction of this team. SMH
Alex68 — I don’t follow your logic. You say: “…this sorry ass team that SA put together.”
The Mets aren’t always pretty but here are the current standings:
NY Mets 64 72 .471
Miami 60 76 .441
Is this sorry ass team is almost as sorry as the Marlins, your other favorite team? IMHO, the Marlins are sorrier because they spent a ton of money getting to last place.
Cots Baseball Contracts has the opening day payrolls:
Marlins ($43,933,000 more $$$ from 2011 to reach their current sorry state)
2012: $101,628,000
2011: $ 57,695,000
Mets ($48,288,344 less $$$ from 2011)
2012: $ 94,508,822
2011: $142,797,166
Using dollars alone, Sandy has worked miracles and is a genius. lol.
Seriously, what the F*** are you talking about???? Just because i picked the marlins to win the WS they’re my favorite team??? Bro, they were MANY PEOPLE who picked them to win the WS, a bunch in here to win the division, along with the phillies, on paper they were the clear favorite wouldn’t you say?? i can care less about what other teams do, i care about this team and what this front office is doing is a crime in itself to the franchise and its fans… Keep slurping to this guy and his methods, we’d be sniffing last place for as long as he’s here!
8 STRAIGHT LOSING SEASON AS A GM and counting!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alex68 — I enjoy your civil conversations (lol) and from time to time agree with you. There are many ways to measure success and I pointed out one of them. Sandy is almost always vilified by you and your CORE so a little relief from the one-sidedness serves to balance some issues. To deny your oft-repeated touting of the Marlins (especially Hanley and Jose) and your disparagement back then of David is rewriting history. I really do think the Marlins have a lot to offer, but this year the team and their FO hasn’t met the challenges they were expected to handle easily.
To not care about what other teams are doing you sure do use them for an example often.
As to 8 years of losing in a row, I think the Mets are at 4 in a row themselves right? How many years has Alderson been here?
First of all, i do not use the marlins, once i made my prediction i did not even mention them again, it was most of you guys who kept bringing them up… I can care less to be quite frankly, specially because our mets were playing great.
TRS, to answer your question, the mets do have 4 year straight losing streak, however, the previous GM at least had 3 straight winning season and had the team in contention for a WS championship 3 year straight, however, this New FO and its 3 goons have been here only 2 years, and that’s 2 straight years where the team has had a losing season and instead of improving, the team is getting worse. THREE GM’s incapable of putting a decent team together says a lot wouldn’t you say?? Only the sabergooners and sandy followers keep making excuses and sticking their head out for their lord. It’s kinda sad already to be honest.
Contention for a WS three straight years? Where?
They were in 2006 and then spent an incredible amount of money to only go backwards from there. Yes they were better than this team, with 60M more to spend but the fact is they became the embarrassment that we are now trying to rectify. We can all argue if this group is taking the necessary steps and we won’t know until it’s over but not even you can deny how quickly things turned south for the previous regime.
In reality, after 2006 the Mets have gotten worse every year regardless of the GM.
So injuries had nothing to do with our demised? it was all the GM’s fault right??? You my friend need to stop the slurpiness… I thought you liked omar, now you’re not recognizing we were WS contenders from 2006-2008????
Alex, are you seriously saying that 2007-2008 we were WS (not just playoff but WS) contenders? And you call me slurper?
Also, didn’t you hate the one that you now defend daily?
Not to mention the fact that the 2011 and 2012 teams have been hurt by injuries as well.
First of all, all i claimabout minaya is how terribly over his head he was. then he started making deals that hurt the franchise, first with castillo and finish off with perez, i am sure you remember how i was going insane about the signing of perez that YOU ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA then, i don’t defend omar the GM, i defend omar the scout, we have good enough players in our farm system that have contribute, yet, most of the slurpers in here wanna blame omar instead of their lord for the ineptitude of the FO. and tell me, what injuries both 2011-2012 teams have combined that can measure with us losing about 6 all start from the roster??? Come on man!!!! and yes, we were WS contenders, do you honestly believe that the phillies of 2008 were a better team than us had we been healthy???? we lost our closer by the end of august, we NEVER recovered from that and our bullpen became the worst prob in history.
Actually if you remember correctly I wanted the Mets to let Perez go, collect the draft pick and use his money to sign Wolfe and Garland.
As for injuries and the Mets. No I do not believe the 2008 Mets team was as good as the Phillies. It had all kinds of depth issues and played up and down all season. Possibly because of the 2007 collapse.
In 2011,
Reyes was injured, Wright was injured, Johan was injured, Murphy injured, Davis injured, Pagan injured, Niese injured, … In fact the Mets leader in games played last year? 126 games.
signing meant to say
You blasted me for going off on minaya for singing perez!! you’re making that up…
“Wow, let me say I did not want Lowe but I did not want Ollie either.
I would have much rather have saved our total money and signed Garland AND another pitcher like Wolf for 1 year then look for trades or new FA next year. Ollie is Ollie.
by TRS86 on Apr 22, 2009 8:29 AM EDT “
“David Wright is a great player, imho, but he seems to come off a little bit short in big spots, not nitpicking or anything but i think he should shorten his swing in tightspots, he seems to think to much when the game is on the line, hence the poor numbers in the clutch”
by Alex68 on Sept 26, 20098 8:47 PM EDT
And this pertains to the discussion on Perez how?
“David Wright is a great player, imho, but he seems to come off a little bit short in big spots, not nitpicking or anything but i think he should shorten his swing in tightspots, he seems to think to much when the game is on the line, hence the poor numbers in the clutch”
by Alex68 on Sept 26, 2008 8:47 PM EDT
Which player in our farm system did Omar scout? When was the last time Omar was a scout? Texas? Harvey, Edgin, Parnell, Duda, Mazzoni, Havens, Davis were all scouted and signed by scouts Steve Phillips hired. Omars legacy will be from the IFA’s he left. Mejia, Familia, Flores, Tejada, Lagares, Marte, Puello, Robles, Tapia. GM’s don’t scout. Scouts do. It’s amazing how people think GM’s scout players.
Niese another one signed by a Steve Phillips hired scout.
Hi Alex,
One thing missing from those stats is the on base percentage – and with that as a team the Mets are about average at .319 and that their OBP being 67 points above their batting average, three percentage points higher than the league.
But is OBP so important?
That’s why your point is so well made – considering that the Mets put runners on base, they are stil leaving them on at an alarming rate of late. As of now, there are only four teams in the league that have a higher men left on base average than we do.
And last year we led the majors with runners left on base.
http://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/stat/left-on-base-per-game
My gathering is that Ojeda is implying that there are times to be aggressive and times to work the count but that it shouldn’t be a rule written in stone but an approach to be used depending upon the situation, the hitter and the pitcher. By using it as a doctrine, the Mets have been hurting bad the past two seasons.
The Big Red Machine led the league in LOB’s too.
LOL Fonzie,
They also led the leage in runs scored in 1976 and 1975 and finished second in 1974, 1973 and 1972. They also led the league in OBP in 1976, 1975 and 1974. They also finished first in batting in 1976,
So they left a lot of runners on base as they were driving them in as well.
I would take that trade-off every single time.
The teams that are at the top of LOB’s are usually the better offensive teams. Last year we were 6th in runs scored using a makeshift lineup for most of the year with all the injuries, 1st in the East division more than the division winning Phillies and this year we were 3rd in runs scored at the allstar break. The league leaders in OB% lead each league in runs scored, St Louis and Texas. That’s usually the case every year. The bottom teams in runs in have low OB% and the top teams have high OB%. The Mets problem is they have a lot of younger guys that don’t know how to execute. They’re not supposed to take pitches down the middle. That’s not what’s being preached to them What’s being preached is don’t swing at pitches you can’t hit. They have to learn to balance that out and it will come with experience. No one is preaching to them to take pitches right down Broadway.
A lot of teams in the off season will be calling the Mets about our great young pitching staff and prospects. This should make all Met fans feel good about our staff. I just hope the FO doesn’t blow it.
I thought I would bring this over here for discussion as well. I know some of you think that I am a staunch Sandy Alderson defender however I do wonder what our reasoning will be this off-season if we don’t sign a player like BJ Upton whom we actually need? Of course when discussing FA there is another question that is never really discussed. You have to have two willing parities. So while I say there is no reason they Mets shouldn’t be able to sign Upton, there is one BIG reason that they may be unable to… Upton himself. But below is food for thought:
Here’s my question though. Why can’t the Mets get BJ Upton if they are serious about it? So what if they have Bay and Johan this year? They know that money comes off next year. Get Wright re-signed so Upton has a draw. Then offer him a SLIGHTLY back loaded deal where he makes maybe 6-8M this year and then much more the next and back to normal following that year. Something like
4/48 but structured like 6, 18, 12, 12? To me now that we know that Madoff is behind us and Johan and Bay have lights at the end of their tunnel there is no reason not to spend on things we actually NEED. I am not saying go Marlin crazy. But there are ways around a ONE year budget issue such as Bay or Johan.
I know some of you think that I am a staunch Sandy Alderson defender”
uhhhhh… You are…
and good luck signing upton… IT’s not gonna happen.. i wanna see when the offseason is over how you’ll react to the FO, as you have often said you’d give them this offseason to prove to you what kind of FO they are. Well, the time is almost here my friend. i’ll see where you stand when you see the garbage they once again will bring in.
Show me one place Alex where I said Sandy was great? One.
All I have said is that I will be patient. I thought the team was in a mess and it would take years to fix and nothing has changed that fact. From day one I said that after 2013 if the Mets were on on the right path I would hold your pike while you run around the town.
Show me one place Alex where I said Sandy was great? One”
You just said it…
From day one I said that after 2013 if the Mets were on on the right path I would hold your pike while you run around the town.”
Get ready to hold it then…
Lets be serious though. The ones that you proclaim are Sandy supporters, most of them are not. They are Mets supporters who are willing to wait before passing judgment. That’s the only true difference. Don’t care about your feud with one or two. I am talking about in general. Most of the ones that you group are not in any group other than Mets fans.
Ok I’m game for serious…
If they are not really sandy supporters and just patient whay aren’t they also waiting to defend the moves he has made as well?
Why do they jump with both feet and mount a fierce defense of a guy they CLAIM they are not sure of?
And why do they call those who ARE sure insane and inject themselves into an argument from a fence they claim to be sitting on?
Seriously!
whatever you say… like i said, it’s time to put up or shut up for the FO according to you right? i wanna see where you stand in 2013 when they do nothing to improve the roster
Actually I still have a full year as a buffer. I said the end of 2013 because it was clear from the beginning that was what they were shooting for was 2014 and beyond. Still I would like to see some moves this off-season as well.
You already changing the year? So 3 straight years of ineptitude and you’ll give them a pass??? Wow!!!!!!!!!!
Actually I never changed the year, you did. I said after 2013 from day one.
If Sandy and ownership continue to sit on their hands during the off-season, then no fan in their right mind should support what is being done.
Wrong… These Slurpers will STILL come up with excuses…
Again Alex, can you identify “these slurpers”? I have not seen anyone in the year that I have been back around here saying that he is a genius nor have I seen anyone saying he is a god. I certainly don’t see many of the ones you implicate as slurpers being slurpers.
TRS86 — Earlier today, at 8:47 am on this thread, I said in some jest:
“Using dollars alone, Sandy has worked miracles and is a genius. lol.”
So depending on the measure, it may be correct to defend Sandy. Then Alex68 might say I’m a slurper. Maybe Alex68 has a point, but if he’s going to be persnickety he’s first got to define CLUTCH. I’ve been waiting for that a long time.
Slurper: A Person that keeps defending this FO and Sandy Alderson and making up excuses for the poor job he’s done as a GM of the NY METS.
Ex: SRT is sandy’s biggest slurper, she’s already making up an excuse for the upcoming offseason.
Challenge: Go back and find one post where SRT praises Alderson.
ONLY ONE????? She’s here all the time making up excuses as to how we should blame EVERYONE else but the man in charge of putting this team together… Please, i am not gonna waste my time looking for post where she slurps SA like there’s no tomorrow. PAy attention if you don’t know what i am talking about… She knows she is!
One post where she says Sandy is great. Come on, that should be easy right?
She’s the biggest slurpers, and trust me, the competition is tight between some people in here… Don’t understand the excuse makers for the guy. if you wanna see a post where she slurps the hell out of SA then just hang tight, sooner rather than later you’d see it…
The only reason why you’re defending her is because she’s part of your desert storm group.
just as you did when kingman used to come here blasting the site and everyone in it and you were LOL’ing remember?
She along with a few people LOVE sandy alderson and used the “i’m trying to be objective” crap as an excuse…
Ignoring the other part, for once back up your argument with fact. One post. Otherwise, you are a complete phony. It should be easy, right?
Oh and by the way thanks for bringing up my blog again. However, as a friend once said, know your history or stay out of it. SRT was posting back at Metsblog the same time you were and still frequents many blogs including this one. You are lucky to have sane and rational posters here and on other blogs, otherwise who would you argue with?
LOL, posting on Metsblog. Those were the days.
what exactly am i ignoring?? That she’s a slurper??? Please.. Believe what you will. i believe what i see!
I am saying that I am ignoring your other garbage.
Come on Alex, back up your words. Don’t be a phony. If you are going to call someone the biggest slurper and say they do it all the time… back it up. Otherwise, how can anyone take you seriously?
She’s already blaming the wilpons for sandy’s yet to be offseason. she’s conceiting the 2012-2013 offseason already before it began, and she’s saying it’s the wilpons fault for sandy lack of creativity and his ineptitude.
“One post where she says Sandy is great. Come on, that should be easy right?”
Still waiting.
Is this what you want the Coeur to represent? Empty accusations and rhetoric?
There is no doubt srt is THE biggest Sandy supporter there is. It’s always somebody else’s fault and NOT Sandy’s according to her, even as the mainstream media is slowly starting to hold him accountable, as Francesca wonders aloud along with a lot of other Mets fans “what is the plan?”, and as Sandy hems and haws his way through one condescending, ugly interview after another. He’s an angle and nothing is his fault nor has he done anything wrong.
Let’s ignore the fact that other teams have been running circles around Sandy the last 2 years getting better players at good prices the Mets could have afforded while Sandy gets us Chin Lung Hu, Brad Emaus, Lucas May, D.J. Carrasco, Taylor Tankersley, Bucholz, Chuck James, Dale Thayer, Adam Loewen, Daniel Herrera, Adrian Rosario, Fernando Cabrera, Sean Kazmar, Josh Rodriguez, Armando Rodriguez…..am I forgetting anybody?
Remember Matt Tuiasosopo?
That’s a LOT of filler. He probably set a Mets record for signing so much filler – but it’s not his fault, Fred Wilpon made those decisions on those players while other teams got nice players on the cheap – according to srt Sandy is not to blame for all of that.
And how about not signing half the draft picks? Must be a Wilpon decision, not Sandy’s.
Sandy advising the Wilpons on baseball matters? And what to do in the best interest of maintaining a competitive team? Noooooooooooo! According to srt it’s the Wilpons who tell Sandy who to pick, who to trade, who not to trade, etc.
And where is the creativity in making trades? It does not exist with this Front Office. But according to srt it’s not Sandy’s fault. It’s the Wilpons telling him what to do.
Meanwhile you can google Sandy Alderson and relative keywords like moves, signings, etc and you will see PLENTY of writers, PLENTY of periodicals criticizing his work.
MEANWHILE when Steve Phillips first took over the Mets he immediately went into action making trades and building a contender. Although later in his tenure he made some free agent signings that didn’t work out Steve Phillips made some outstanding and creative trades almost as soon as he was hired!!!!!!! But he’s the bad guy. How dare he bring some happy seasons with very popular and likeable Mets teams to New York. How DARE HE!!
Here is Steve Phillips very first trade as GM of the Mets:
August 8, 1997
Traded Lance Johnson and PTBNL’s Mark Clark and Manny Alexander to the Chicago Cubs for Brian McRae, Mel Rojas, and Turk Wendell
Here is his 2nd trade:
December 18, 1997
Traded Fletcher Bates and Scott Comer to the Florida Marlins for Dennis Cook
Although is 3rd trade (Carl Everett for John Hudek was questionable, Hudak was later turned into Lenny Randle who became an outstanding pinch hitter for the Mets
Here is his 4th trade:
February 6, 1998
Traded A.J. Burnett, Jesus Sanchez, and Robert Stratton to the Florida Marlins for Al Leiter and Ralph Millard
So the point is Steve Phillips was bold, daring, and was off and running as Mets GM. He IMMEDIATELY went to work building a winner and maintaining a farm. He drafted David Wright and was the GM when Jose Reyes was signed.
Sandy? What was his first move? Brad Emaus or Chin Lung Hu?
*Yawn*
SRT,
It’s Bay-yawn…. Same tired argument. Watch the payroll increase, increase, increase with the previous GMs and then hold Sandy to the same standard when he cannot. Look, Phillips was an intern enthusiast and an overall bad GM, but he certainly made his good moves. Same goes for Omar. (Omar, I think was actually better than Phillips.) But regardless, they had the money to reach out and touch someone. Sandy does not. Should he have done better with the BP? yeah. Should he have found more SP depth? I wish he did. Trying to do that on $4.35… difficult for everyone but Trump, who passes gas and hundred dollar bills fall out his pant cuffs.
And no, Sandy does not wear teflon underwear, but expecting WS Rings with the economic environment this team is in is we-tar-dead.
‘Ex: SRT is sandy’s biggest slurper, she’s already making up an excuse for the upcoming offseason.’
Talk is cheap. Prove it.
He can’t because then what would he talk about? If it isn’t about the GM or Wright he’s become lost.
I have challenged him many times to prove his accusation of anointing Sandy or calling him great. Somehow he associates a couple of guys he feuds with as representative of everyone who does not think like him.
First of all, it’s the CORE, second of all, TRS, i am surprised at you for following suit along with SRT, i thought name calling and names like this were consider childish and stupid no? Or is that only for when we use it? but since SRT is one of your desert storm people you approve it right? see how easily you get exposed as a phony? Same thing that happen with kingman, you encourage his behavior up until he was banned from here, which, of course, was when you FINALLY realized how ignorant he was being right?
SluRperT, be more original ok?
Alex, what are you talking about? LOL.
One post Alex. Come on. We will wait. Again, is that what you want your superhero group to be known for? Empty accusations? Being phony?
Again, why are you approving of her calling the CORE names? I thought you said that was childish!? why don’t yousay the same to her as us!!
Wait, so I can’t call a childish name for a group of adults another childish name? I am confused.
Again, stepping over this superhero grouping crap, why can’t you provide anything to back up your claim? You are doing much more damage to your “group” by doing this than anything anyone else could do.
LOL…..on’t waste your time looking is right, Alex. You won’t find any proof because it’s not there.
So says one of the self proclaimed ‘Coeur’. No, I did not spell that wrong.
I decided this name fits better. If y’all are going to distain all things stats such as OBP, then it make sense to name your club after the King of all Hackers, Jeff Francoeur. After all, ‘If OBP was so important it would be on the scoreboard.’
So…the Coeur salutes you!
But hey they are GRIIIIIIIIIIITTTTY!
TRS I just saw this tweet and I thought it was fitting since you are back here on a mission:
“Arguing politics is like trying to convince someone that their baby isn’t cute.”
Just replace politics and with Arguuing Mets with Alex. He will go to his grave hating Sandy and Wright, why kick up the hornets nest? And why don’t you think his baby isn’t cute? Thats messed up.
Time to get those eyes checked, Alex.
Yes, we’ve seen what we hope will be a glimpse of the future last night.
And it also means that Sandy’s vision – as far as building from within and the young sprouting wings in 2014 – was based on the raw talent that Omar had acquired. Most his own draft picks will not be ready for a few years yet and Wheeler wasn’t part of that stated vision when Sandy announced the road he wanted to take.
We have not been helped by the players Sandy has acquired to date. Those who we can hopefully look forward to still down the road (our current infield, Duda, Harvey, Gee, Neise, Parnell, McHugh, Hefner, etc. (notice I did not include Thole so to show I can be objective LOL) were also part of the previous administration.
There can be arguments made that most of these players would not have been retained in the organization and traded away or be stuck in the minors due to Omar signing over the hill veterans to multi-year contracts and that point is valid. So 2014 could be a combination of Omar’s eye for talent and Sandy’s eye for not spending based on what he saw he had inherited (though I doubt that was the true motive).
But even with these kids who are planned to come up by 2014 having been assembled by Omar, that means that in order for the team to be successful and compliment the players we do have now, they will most all need to jell right off the bat instead of going through growing pains, the sophmore jinx, etc. – not to mention that the time for projecting stardom is over and they now have to actually prove they can produce on a major league level.
And let’s say they begin to come around by 2016 after two seasons of having their feet wet. Wright will be older. And most of the young core we have assembled at this time – Davis, Tejada, Gee, Murphy, Duda and Parnell will either have already reached or will be reaching eligibility for free agency. Neise’s contract will also expire after that season. Will Fred and Jeff then have the money to spend and at least some of them or do some get a box of chocolates instead? This is not taking into question whether or not Sandy Alderson is still the general manager at that time.
And if they are not re-signed and we again count on building from within – this time with draft picks acquired under Sandy’s watch – does that mean the circle game begins again and that we might be competive but with so many changes going on year to year, that we don’t take the big step after that?
That’s a lot to think about and bank on.