Sep
12
2012
12
2012
Frank Francisco Has A 6.75 ERA In Last 28 Days
An article by Hojo's Mojo
Mets closer Frank Francisco has a 6.75 ERA and a 1.607 WHIP in the last 28 days. He has allowed seven earned runs on eleven hits and four walks in his last 9.1 innings pitched including last night.
Francisco is in the first year of a two-year $12 million dollar deal he signed last December during the Winter Meetings.
For the season Francisco has made 46 appearances for the Mets, allowing 26 earned runs in 40.1 innings on 47 hits and 23 walks. That adds up to a 1.686 WHIP for the season to go with a 5.80 ERA.
Set to earn the remaining $6.5 million dollars of his deal in 2013, Francisco is the fourth highest compensated player on the team behind Johan Santana, David Wright and Jason Bay.
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Shocker.
Just tell me what the big deal is? The Mets don’t score any runs anyway so who cares how bad the relief is.
Lou, the big deal is we’re stuck with this P0S for next year, and guess what? That same ERA is the amount of dollars he’ll get from a team that claims to be broke… That’s the big deal. However, when all of us scream out of the top of our long how this was gonna be a disaster and that in fact SA did not HAVE A GOOD DAY we were called haters, and appearantly we somehow have a personal vendetta against the guy..
Alex 68. You probably guessed I was being just a wee bit cynical with a twinge of sarcasm thrown in and your response was spot on. As fans we are in a real pickle. We love a team where the front office disses the fan base and instead of embracing and listening to us they happily lead uis down a path of bankruptcy and ruin. I still say a fan boycott is the only way to turn this ship around.
Got you lou… Sorry for not seeing the Sarcasm along the line, I am very critical of this FO and the job they’ve done (or lack of) and i get a lot of comments back not pleasant so i don’t detect sarcasm or anything like that good these days…
What’s the big deal? The man who is the GM of a team strapped for cash makes a terrible decision with whatever resources this team has. That’s the big deal.
This guy was supposed to be using advanced statistical analysis to help find good ballplayers cheaply and was the second coming of Christ before he ever made a move. Now that all that has failed – it’s the owner’s fault now.
Also if Frank Frank was able to save some key games before the all star break than maybe our GM would not have quit so fast. That’s a big deal, too. A VERY big deal.
Bayonne — “This guy was supposed to be using advanced statistical analysis to help find good ballplayers cheaply and was the second coming of Christ before he ever made a move.”
What is past is usually prologue to the future. Should Sandy have used a Ouija board?
He might have done better than he did using Statistical analysis!
It’s not the tool thats the problem it’s how you use the tool that leads to success or failure!
A Hammer can drive in a nail….Provided you actually know how to use a Hammer properly!
Don’t use it properly and you get nothing but bent nail mistakes!
Metsie — So now you’re responding not only for Alex68 but also for Bayonne. The CORE lives on!!! LOL Too bad you provide no insight into the actual point I raised. It’s just another gripe about Sandy. And to think I expected more,….Oh well.
I’m responding for me…
I know you have problems that someone has these opinions and you try and change what they say and who they say it for as a defense mechanism but thats really a personal problem you should deal with on your own not here…
Metsie — You weren’t a projectionist in a movie theater, were you? You act like you’ve had some practice. You repeatedly engage in psychological projection when a point is made which makes you feel uncomfortable. You then say that the other person said or think what you did. I don’t put words in anyone’s mouth. Point it out where I did. Too bad you can’t handle valid insights.
Oh please Des you really buying all tat crap you keep spewing today?
This is the SECOND TIME IN AN HOUR that you have tried to project something on me that has nothing to do with anything I said!
Just get over yourself already cause your not really very good at what your trying!
I know you think your a respected poster around here but delusions are not the kind of thing you should be counting on!
To the would be Last Man Standing — I compared what you said about the LV time frame and what you say about Sandy’s time frame. I found it interesting about how elastic you treat the same time frame when addressing two different aspects of the Mets. When addressing Sandy you’re relentless and rigid. You repeatedly condemn. When you spoke of LV and a new ballpark, you were matter of fact, like it’s just something that we’ll have to live with. I originally asked why you treat them differently. What’s not to understand? You are not dumb, so don’t cop out and act like you are. Then you say i’m putting words in your mouth. Please we’re not on Silly Street.
Keep Squirming last man cringing….
Squirm enough ou may eventually wriggle free and extricate yourself from the pile of crap you got yourself under….
Pray tell what Time frame did I mention in regards to the stadium?
What does buildinga stadium have to do with Sandy Alderson?
What does construction of a TEAM have to do with constructuion of a Stadium?
And what does waiting for a stadium to be built have in common with dismantling a team over a 3 year period hoping a fairy taps it with a magic wand just before the 2015 season starts?
Please tell us oh he who is not standing but trying deperatly to crawl away from the crap he started!
If you can’t answer those questions then I AM the last man standing!
Go Crawl away and go work on a better plan of attack and twisting what I said next time that won’t leave you in such a vulnerable position!
Thank you, Sandy Alderson.
We might be stuck with FF and his contract next season but is there any rule that says he has to be the closer?
Of course knowing his make-up being ‘demoted’ probably wouldn’t sit too well with him.
Great, pay a guy $6.50 million to be the 7th inning guy.. For a team that reportedly is broke. that bodes very well for what we’re trying to accomplish..
Hmm for 2 Mil more you could have had a 4.86 ERA as opposed to a 5.80…
Well let the excuse making begin….Any minute now I suspect!
Nope, no excuses from me. FFF has been an utter failure and has had his worst season of his career off the top of my head. He obviously can’t pitch in NY and hopefully they can find a way to dump him. It has turned out to be an awful signing. The end.
Metsie & TRS: I’m only pasting this here to just inform you of a conversation I had.
The owner of baseball reference wrote me an email back regarding our conversation about Jason Bay’s option year
“Practices in a case like Bay’s vary by club. Typically, a club would continue paying the player through 2013 as if he were still on the roster, then pay the buyout after the 2013 World Series. Most options require the player or club to exercise or decline the option within five days of the end of the World Series. So Bay would have the $3 million buyout in November of 2013, at the latest. But I’ve had a couple of front-office types tell me that, at least for purposes of annual payroll or accounting, clubs may choose to carry a buyout on their books either the year it is paid out or in the option year of the contract. That would mean the Mets could put the $3 million on their books in either 2013 or 2014, depending on their internal accounting policies or what works best for them.”
So I guess what this means is technically all 3 of us were right because many teams DO pay it out in 2013 but they are putting that $ on their books for the following year so essentially it’s an accrued payment. Happens in 2013 but put on the books in 2014.
Obviously it depends on how they want to do it but just wanted to send you that piece of info.
Yes it c be recorded a bunch of different ways and they may not have to actually cut a check for the full amount the day he gets cut.
But once he is cut they are committed to the buyout regardless of how they decide to record it and truth is the numbers for the buyout really is small potatoes when it comes right down to finances. It’s usually not more thana Million or Two in most cases.
Glad it’s all sorted out now!
jeez I had a long day lol. I meant Cot’s Baseball Contracts not Baseball Reference.
I guess this proves Sandy Alderson is the smarter of the two general managers.
Sandy signed him for two years at a total $12 million — Omar would have signed him for two years at $12 million per each!
Are you being sarcastic? Joking??
Well, when money is no object you probably tend to look at these deals a little differently.
Joey D. — You’ve mad a great, lighthearted comment. I love it, even though I think Omar did a pretty good job. LOL
Hi Guys,
When Rob posted those numbers the first thought that popped into my mind was Oliver Perez and that $12 million PER YEAR contract!
Only difference Omar didnt splurge on bargain basement players. He was never the dumpster diver that Sandy is. He’d overpay a top talent on the market in a ny minute though
Come on now, I defended Omar too but to say he didn’t splurge on bargain basement players? What was Castillo? How about Cora, Tatis, Jacobs, the Big Cat, everyone’s favorite Frenchy, GMJR, Schneider, Redding, Marlon Anderson, Showencrappy, Jorge Sosa, The Great American Figgy, Jose Valentin, Mota, David Williams, Julio Franco, Aaron Sele, Jorge Julio, Late Great Jose Lima, Heridia and De Jean, Danny Graves, Aybar, Koo, Super Doug MicasdfasdfK…
All GM’s have records like this so don’t act like Sandy wrote the book. The difference is Omar was allowed to sign some big names too. Think where we would have been if it were left up to just that list and there were plenty I left out.
LOL
“The difference is Omar was allowed to sign some big names too”
No the difference was his cheap signings actually contributed to the winning ways from 2006-2008
He signed some guys who actually filled starting roles as opposed to just role players…
Yeah, I don’t hate all of Aldersons pick ups, Hairston and Cedeno haven’t been that bad…Shoppach seems good so far, but I wonder the timing…and even Young has had good moments.
The problem is, when you’re trying to fill some major holes, you need something more the bargain pickups.
These guys are like the salt, pepper and gravy. Sure they can be good and even make a average season or meal good…you got nothing if you don’t have a good plate of meat and potatoes first.
Right now we have some dried up chicken, unripened tomatoes, some potatoes that have been under the heat lamp too long and some sour wine. You might be able to mask how bad the meal was at first, but at the end, the food still sucked and you feel sick to your stomach.
It comes down to this for me….
There is nothing wrong with signing cheap pickups to fill a hole you can’t fill that year but not if your system kids are as good or better than those pickups.
When we signed Valentin and Lo Duca there were no MiL options to plug in there!
Can the same really be said about our two best cheap pickups this year in Baxter and Cedeno?
Sure they have played pretty well and Baxter even played the hero of the No No but in the grand scheme of things all they really accomplished was taking time away from kids like Kirk and Valdespin who if nothing else could have used the game experience and playing time to try and get better for next year.
If Baxter hit RH he would have gotten a lot more playing time than he did before he got hurt. Hairston became a regular player as much for his RH Bat as his HR potential.
Role Players and cheap signings are fine provided they are merely to bridge the gap when your kid isn’t quite ready but will be in ayear or two, or until a free agent is available to fill that hole more permanently.
He was also here for a lot longer so being able to judge how many scrubs he signed that contributed isn’t really fair at this point. But you are still missing the point. They both went bargain bin shopping, the main difference is that Omar chose to spend all his money on big ticket items then backfill with scrubs where Sandy doesn’t have the money to sign the big ticket items and has to pick everything from the scrubs.
Even it out how man did he sign and succeed with his first two years?
Very frustrating when as a fan, you knew damn well this was an awful signing the day it happened.
By the way, what stats did Sandy look at before he signed this guy?