Comments on: Cash-Strapped Mets Will Unveil Wheeler In 2013, Just Not On Opening Day

By: Superhero

Superhero — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:45:41 +0000

Holy crap dude, how many times do I have to say that I don’t want to get rid of Wright and Dickey before it gets through to your tiny little brain? But no, clearly I’M the dumbass…

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:20:37 +0000

PERSONALLY I BELIEVE BOTH HARVEY & WHEELER WLL ULTIMATEY BE BROUGHT UP “WHEN READY” & “WHEN NEEDED” AS THE ‘SANTANA REPLACEMENT OPTION.
I BELIEVE IT’S ONLY PRUDENT TO PLAN & ANTICIPATE FOR ONLY A STRONG FIRST HALF FROM JOHAN, WHILE JUST AS HE FADES OUT, THE BRIGHTNESS OF HARVEY ILLUMINATED CITI’S SEATS IN 2012 SO WILL WHEELER SLIDE IN MAKING SANTANA’S FADE-OUT A STATISTICAL, NON SEASON CHANGING FOOTNOTE AS IT WAS NEARLY IMPERCEPTIBLE BY FANS THUIS SEASON.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:13:56 +0000

Well first you replied to me and called me stupid…

Second YOUR the one who isn’t getting what I’m saying…

You say you don’t want to get rid of guys but then say you want to get rid of Wright and Dickey

I suggest you go back to Mets Blog and when you get yourself all sorted out and can have a clear point come back and we will talk…

But I don;t HAVE to get what your saying!
You replied to me dumbass!

By: Superhero

Superhero — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:33:59 +0000

…I honestly don’t know what to say. You’re not comprehending what I’m saying at all. That’s it. I give up. Your stupidity wins. Congratulations.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:16:29 +0000

Well Superhero if they leave then there is no reason to keep the pitchers either!

Whoever you get for Wright and Dickey are 3-4 years away
MAY but no guarantees (and odds say you NEVER get more than you gave in kids.)

Harvey and Wheeler will no longer be prospects will they? They will be like the Ikes people have talked about trading…

It’s an endless cycle!

You rebuild when you have NO ONE not now and not three years from now either.
Thats not the situation here! We have two pitchers about to start thier career and you seem ok with getting rid of the guys who could make them winners…

Imagine trading Keith Hernandez the year Gooden and Darling came up…

Pretty much what you guys are proposing in this hypothetical isn’t it?

Bottomline is if we were going to rebuild it should have been done last season.
Too late now even if Sandy sells off the best guys we have he will never live to see the end of it play out!

And with no stars to play everyday Harvey and Wheeler will be traded to “FILL ALL THOSE HOLES” everyone says exist but didn’t until we traded away our Closer our CF out RF and soon to be our 3B Ace and maybe even 1B!

By: Superhero

Superhero — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:49:31 +0000

No, I do not want them to get rid of either. This is a hypothetical situation about what to do with Harvey and Wheeler in the event that they did leave. And again (I seriously cannot believe I’m explaining this to you again), the hope would be that Harvey and Wheeler would still be here when the team becomes good again, and that they would be a part of that.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:24:20 +0000

You seemed to be fine with Tradng Dickey and Wright though…
Add 4 years to harvey and Wheeler dealing with the losing and whats the next logical step in this REBUILD!

Same story as used to get rid of Dickey and Wright!

Cause the rebuilders are ALWAYS about 4 years from now and to hell with everything in between!

By: Superhero

Superhero — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:47:47 +0000

Yes, I’m aware that the idea has been brought up, but you implied that I had said I supported them when I never even hinted that.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:24:59 +0000

Read articles here over the last month…
Read the story about Ike staying out late and is uncoachable therefore tradeable…

You don’t live under a rock do you?

By: Superhero

Superhero — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:03:58 +0000

Who in the hell suggested trading any of those guys? You’re putting words in our mouths to support your ridiculously stupid argument. It’s quite simple, but I’ll try to break it down so that you can understand it: were Wright and Dickey to leave, the Mets would be bad. Really bad. Bottom five teams in the league bad. The hope would be that in a few years, they would be better. Therefore, you’d want to keep good prospects like Harvey and Wheeler, so that they’ll be around and in their prime when the team would be in a position to win. Do you understand it now? Do ya? Or do I need to make things even more simple for you?

By: jerseymet

jerseymet — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:29:55 +0000

Nice explanation of the super 2.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:26:12 +0000

Ok to both of you…

Did you get 2 or 3 Prospects for Reyes Beltran and K-Rod combined?

Where were you when people wanted to trade Davis and suggested Murphy?

WHy would Harvey and Wheeler be any different?
Will we win with them more if Wright Dickey and Davis is gone?

Or will the same excuse you guys use to trade Wright Dickey and Davis apply!

We never won with them so why not trade them?

By: TRS86

TRS86 — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:35:20 +0000

Way to respect Joe’s wishes Alex.

By: Chest Rockwell

Chest Rockwell — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:20:45 +0000

Hahaha!

“If Wright and Dickey are gone there is no point in keeping Harvey and Wheeler at all!”

Could anything sillier even be conceived?

If you trade Wright AND Dickey, you may get 3–4 top prospects, and you BUILD around them and then the hopeful future anchors of a potentially great staff in Harvey/Wheeler/Niese.

This place is the number 1 source for aggressive baseball ignorance in the universe.

I visit 1-2 times a month, and it never fails!

By: stick

stick — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:35:13 +0000

circumstances changed. They adapted. common sense.

By: Superhero

Superhero — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:26:03 +0000

This is, quite possibly, one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read on the internet. If Wright and Dickey were to leave, that would put us in full-throttle rebuilding mode like the Astros are in. When you’re in that mode, it generally isn’t very wise to surrender your top prospects. You keep them and hope that they’re part of the turnaround. Honestly, this needs to be explained to you?

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:18:09 +0000

Thats not what I said Stick but I see you are in full Sandy Defense mode today so I will explain….

If Wright and Dickey are gone there is no point in keeping Harvey and Wheeler at all!

All your going to do is wreck thier value! And in the proccess could wreck thier confidence and force them to try and do too much to be a winner that can’t make up for the lack of team and ruin them altogether….

SO truth is if we are not going to win and we don’t keep Wright and Dickey might as well trade Harvey and Wheeler too which means no sense in promoting Wheeler next year just leave him where he can put up gaudy numbers so you can trade him for more stuff!

If they are not going to have a winning team then better to leave him down where his value won’t go down as much as it will in the MLB.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:04:52 +0000

You guys are stepping right around the point at hand….

Sandy said one thing one week and then CHANGED HIS MIND!

How many times did that happen just this year alone?

By: stick

stick — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:04:33 +0000

nonsense. So a bad club should never bring up a top prospect, because it might hurt their confidence? Really?

more like, every prospect has an adjustment to the majors (some bigger than others), but they need to get that out of the way as the final step of their development. So, perfect time in a season to bring him up to get his feet wet, and used tot he majors. So in a year or 2 when maybe the team is better, he is ready to produce.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:01:50 +0000

Aren’t you the one who claims Sandy is a good Evaluator and is smart to NEVER listen to the IGNORANT fans?