How can you count what every team does (except us in 2012 where we don’t sign half of them) a step towards rebuilding?

I’m not going to give him credit for making a pick and then signing them. But granted I will give him more credit for 2011 when compared to what he did in 2012 where he picked them and then didn’t sign half of them I suppose.

But no I don’t give him credit for doing something that every team does towards rebuilding!
When those picks pan out and fill the positions the rebuild requires THEN I will give him some credit for those picks!

Increasing farm system ranking is a piss poor barometer!
We got Wheeler and jumped half the teams that were ahead of us thats how slim the margin between teams is!

None of his other activities has any long term impact. Only FF is signed past this year!
(some say Thank god for that!)

The major league team comes last. It’s a hard concept to grasp when the owners have bought FAs like sailors on leave recently and continues to just put band-aids on the problem, but that’s the reality of the situation now. You can blame the GM for it, but you’re just looking for a scapegoat.

As for the foundational fix, What has he done to fix the foundation?

Looks to me like he is still tearing down structure and has done little to build up other than Wheeler.

He sure passed on the foundational materials he will ned in this recent draft by not signing them.

And other than Beltran he has not sold off any of the pieces he got rid of for minimum salvage!

He’s just ripping pieces down, Throwing patches on the walls of what sits above the foundation and done little to shore up the base once all the structure is removed!

He’s renovating not rebuilding!
And he has yet to get rid of the problems just the stuff that works he thinks he can’t afford!

Pitching: Harvey, Dickey, Wheeler, Niese, Parnell, Mejia, Fulmer, Gee*

Starters: Wright, Davis, Tejada

Bench: Baxter, Turner, Cedeno

*Gee’s trade value compromised by health issue
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Trade Chips: Murphy, Valdespin, Duda, McHugh, Gorski,

Johan has a gazillion dollars owed him and one year left on his deal. Also negative trade value.

Lets cut bay and be done with him.
Lets keep santana as a sunk cost and see what he can do in 2013.

No comparison to the red sox, none at all.

I’m in engineering too by the way, and NOTHING ever gets build on the first go around either, never.

You don’t just say “I’m going to build this……..” poof it’s done.

You’re wrong about Alderson. He is doing something. You’re an engineer, right? Let me ask you, when you build something, any kind of building or structure at all, what do you build first? The roof or the foundation? The top floor, or the ground floor?

We are not down on Sandy for not doing what Boston did hell we been on him far longer than that!

We are on him for not doing ANYTHING! Just sitting around waiting for a winning team to fall in his lap or off the Buffalo shuttle!

Bay’s situation is so unlike Crawford’s you can’t compare them at all, no matter how you spin it. Bay has one more year left after this season, not five, and his play isn’t even minor league caliber. His Mets career, which consists of 1,088 plate appearances, (or two full-ish seasons), he’s a .235 hitter with 28 home runs and 114 RBI. As a “power” hitter, his SLG% is .368.

Crawford, on the other hand, played 161 games and had 664 PAs with the Red Sox, was a .260, 14, 75 hitter. In just one full season. Teams can want that production, especially since Crawford will presumably recover from his injury, and he’s played well when healthy. Bay’s healthy. He’s just not a good baseball player. That doesn’t even account for defense and speed, which is so heavily slanted in Crawford’s favor, it’s not worth bringing up.

The Sandy haters who use what Boston did to get on Alderson because he “couldn’t” or “wouldn’t” do what Boston did is overlooking the most important part of what Boston had: players they want to trade that other teams wanted to trade for. Nobody wants to give up two top pitching prospects for Johan, and nobody wants Bay at all. Those two have a combined three years left on their deals and Gonzalez and Crawford have what? Twelve? And Gonzalez is a stud. And Crawford still shows that he might be if he was healthy.

In my opinion if the Mets could find someone to take on Bay’s contract within reason and by reason I mean where they don’t say here please take Bay and we will throw in Harvey and Familia it would of been done already. That they moved Krod and his $17M vesting option last season a move many expected to happen is an example of a team willing to move salary if they could.

Bay unlike KRod has next to nothing in value though. You already heard of the said rumor that if it is to believed the Mets and Marlins were in talks of moving Bay in a deal that would brought back Bell. A deal mind you that the Marlins would be foolish to have made but again it was just a reported rumor.

The Dodgers Red Sox trade was a historic trade. One that for the Red Sox saw them willing to lose a valuable player in Gonzo to rid themselves of Becket and Crawford. Some suggest Gonzo was moved due to the text gate incident regarding the manager. If true they better hope Valentine was worth it and they did not cut off their nose to spite their face or in this case trade away their 1st baseman to spite their team.

For the Dodgers if you believe some of the reports they are playing it fast and loose on the idea that they will be able to more than cover their expenses with the new tv deal. Time will tell if these moves prove fruitful. If not it’s possible the Dodgers may be looking to do next year what the Red Sox did this year.

This had little to do with a new direction although it does manage to allow them to do that…

It was about getting rid of the Malcontents and while they may have wanted AGon’s stats on thier boxscores he was the guy who gave the Mutineers his phone to send a text!

Yes they purged salary and they gave away a performer while doing so!

But what was key to them was to get rid of anyone who wasn’t happy being there!

And they showed the rest of the team WHO IS BOSS of that franchise and that being a performer and making tons of money is no obstacle or protection towards being sent packing!

A classic case of telling players, Be careful what you wish for…You might get it!
Are you Unhappy? See ya! I don’t care how much you make or how good you hit! I can get someone else to do what you do forhalf the price and none of the complaints!

THATS what this deal was all about!
Putting that lockeroom in it’s place and proper perspective!

Fans are fickle if nothing else. And it does not take that much to get them back hooked.

Also to be considered, however, is that Wright and Dickey are only locked in for one year with market value or below contracts for the Mets. Trading them would be counter productive unless you can obtain someone who can compete at least by 2014.