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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/08/the-missing-piece-in-the-mets-puzzle.html#comment-271939</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 23:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are two kinds of fan bases in baseball. One is loyal no matter what. The second is attracted only if the team is competitive, interesting or fun to watch. The Mets are in serious danger of seeing that second group decline further due to the dreary performance and questionable decisions of the last few years. A couple of friends have already told me that they are spending their ticket money on the Brooklyn Nets instead of the Mets.  If the Mets don&#039;t find a way to get rid of Jason Bay next season, that will be a signal that the Wilpons and Sandy have decided to punish their fans for yet another year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two kinds of fan bases in baseball. One is loyal no matter what. The second is attracted only if the team is competitive, interesting or fun to watch. The Mets are in serious danger of seeing that second group decline further due to the dreary performance and questionable decisions of the last few years. A couple of friends have already told me that they are spending their ticket money on the Brooklyn Nets instead of the Mets.  If the Mets don&#8217;t find a way to get rid of Jason Bay next season, that will be a signal that the Wilpons and Sandy have decided to punish their fans for yet another year.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenny Randle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenny Randle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is still a holding pattern. Even after next season. Remember, the business model for the Mets is still full attendance and without that, they are not going to make money unless they have a middle market payroll. Interesting corner they&#039;ve painted themselves into.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is still a holding pattern. Even after next season. Remember, the business model for the Mets is still full attendance and without that, they are not going to make money unless they have a middle market payroll. Interesting corner they&#8217;ve painted themselves into.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenny Randle</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/08/the-missing-piece-in-the-mets-puzzle.html#comment-271697</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenny Randle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whether or not we know the answer to the Wilpons&#039; and/or the Mets actual financial picture, the actions and results will take care of themselves. We will know by the winter of &#039;13-&#039;14 what the outlook is. As for now, they can always fall back on the old being saddled with several large contracts excuse. That excuse will no longer be here on October 5, 2013 and then they will have to spin something else.

The plan is obviously Harvey, Wheeler, Tejada and Ike and hope against hope that it all pans out.  If it doesn&#039;t, well then they will have nothing to fall back on.

In many ways, it will be 1997 all over again after they dug themselves out of the worst team money could buy, they sold the promise of young dominant pitching that essentially flamed out in one year. With Bobby V coaxing success out of Rick Reed and Bobby Jones; Armando Reynoso, Butch Huskey, the arrival of John Olerud and the emergence of Fonzie,  they somehow won 88 games which signaled a jumpstart to a new era- luckily.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not we know the answer to the Wilpons&#8217; and/or the Mets actual financial picture, the actions and results will take care of themselves. We will know by the winter of &#8217;13-&#8217;14 what the outlook is. As for now, they can always fall back on the old being saddled with several large contracts excuse. That excuse will no longer be here on October 5, 2013 and then they will have to spin something else.</p>
<p>The plan is obviously Harvey, Wheeler, Tejada and Ike and hope against hope that it all pans out.  If it doesn&#8217;t, well then they will have nothing to fall back on.</p>
<p>In many ways, it will be 1997 all over again after they dug themselves out of the worst team money could buy, they sold the promise of young dominant pitching that essentially flamed out in one year. With Bobby V coaxing success out of Rick Reed and Bobby Jones; Armando Reynoso, Butch Huskey, the arrival of John Olerud and the emergence of Fonzie,  they somehow won 88 games which signaled a jumpstart to a new era- luckily.</p>
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		<title>By: steM</title>
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		<dc:creator>steM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whosawhatnow? 

I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s a big deal. I&#039;m saying that some of the players that are at Kingsport right now are really raw and would have been at GCL if that team still existed (like Kaupe, Nido, Cecchini, etc.). Nimmo started last year at GCL too, I believe. Their &quot;rawness&quot; is probably represented in the overall performance of the team.

I&#039;m not saying that as a knock on them not having a GCL team, I&#039;m saying not to put too much stock in the performance of the Kingsport team as a whole because of this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whosawhatnow? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s a big deal. I&#8217;m saying that some of the players that are at Kingsport right now are really raw and would have been at GCL if that team still existed (like Kaupe, Nido, Cecchini, etc.). Nimmo started last year at GCL too, I believe. Their &#8220;rawness&#8221; is probably represented in the overall performance of the team.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that as a knock on them not having a GCL team, I&#8217;m saying not to put too much stock in the performance of the Kingsport team as a whole because of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicely said, nobody knows how the finances really are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely said, nobody knows how the finances really are.</p>
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		<title>By: Metfan Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metfan Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hawk, what a great response and thanks for the history lesson. &#039;preciate it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawk, what a great response and thanks for the history lesson. &#8216;preciate it!</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They still have the complex and their DSL teams. Not a big deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They still have the complex and their DSL teams. Not a big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The full name for the New York Mets MLB team is in fact &quot;Mets&quot;.

The term Metropolitans comes from the club&#039;s corporate name of &quot;New York Metropolitan Baseball Club, Inc.&quot; as well as the old &quot;New York Metropolitans&quot; professional baseball team that existed from 1880 to 1887.

The Metropolitan Club (the New York Metropolitans or the Mets) was a 19th-century professional baseball team that played in New York City from 1880 to 1887. Metropolitan Baseball Club of New York was the name originally chosen in 1960 for the current day New York Mets franchise, although the legal name has changed since then.

 the owners ultimately selected &quot;Mets&quot; because it was closely related to the club&#039;s already-existing corporate name &quot;New York Metropolitan Baseball Club, Inc.&quot;,

wikipedia

The Schmooze always calls them the Metropolitans but I don&#039;t believe that was ever their team name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The full name for the New York Mets MLB team is in fact &#8220;Mets&#8221;.</p>
<p>The term Metropolitans comes from the club&#8217;s corporate name of &#8220;New York Metropolitan Baseball Club, Inc.&#8221; as well as the old &#8220;New York Metropolitans&#8221; professional baseball team that existed from 1880 to 1887.</p>
<p>The Metropolitan Club (the New York Metropolitans or the Mets) was a 19th-century professional baseball team that played in New York City from 1880 to 1887. Metropolitan Baseball Club of New York was the name originally chosen in 1960 for the current day New York Mets franchise, although the legal name has changed since then.</p>
<p> the owners ultimately selected &#8220;Mets&#8221; because it was closely related to the club&#8217;s already-existing corporate name &#8220;New York Metropolitan Baseball Club, Inc.&#8221;,</p>
<p>wikipedia</p>
<p>The Schmooze always calls them the Metropolitans but I don&#8217;t believe that was ever their team name.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Masiello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Masiello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another big problem for 2013 is that there is no more fat to cut. They have $50M +/- in three players (Johan, Bay, and Niese) that is guaranteed. They will want to bring Wright and Dickie back. Call that $20M - $30M if they succeed. Now you have five guys making $75M +/-.
Throw in another 20 guys at the minimum and your at $85M.
So it won&#039;t get better or cheaper and you know that they&#039;re not going to INCREASE payroll.
Good news, there&#039;s only 595 days to opening day in 2014 when we&#039;ll get to spend Johan and Bay&#039;s $50M on players who may contribute.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another big problem for 2013 is that there is no more fat to cut. They have $50M +/- in three players (Johan, Bay, and Niese) that is guaranteed. They will want to bring Wright and Dickie back. Call that $20M &#8211; $30M if they succeed. Now you have five guys making $75M +/-.<br />
Throw in another 20 guys at the minimum and your at $85M.<br />
So it won&#8217;t get better or cheaper and you know that they&#8217;re not going to INCREASE payroll.<br />
Good news, there&#8217;s only 595 days to opening day in 2014 when we&#8217;ll get to spend Johan and Bay&#8217;s $50M on players who may contribute.</p>
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		<title>By: Metfan Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metfan Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not so sure in these economic times you could put together a refinancing deal. If this was true why did they peddle the 20 miilion dollar share program? I think their being stupid, the Wilpons that is. I think in topday&#039;s market the Mets arer worth upwards of 1 billion dollars. After all is said and done they could come out clean and still have a few mil to live nicely. If they can&#039;t get enough to cover all debts, the debtors will settle as they do on a short sale. If they don&#039;t sell the alternative is lower attendance, more losses and the B word Bankruptcy. Now who would buy the Mets. Probably Einhorn partnering with others. Mark Cuban would be a looong shot. The Wilpons time has passed with the Mets and only a fan boycott will force them out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not so sure in these economic times you could put together a refinancing deal. If this was true why did they peddle the 20 miilion dollar share program? I think their being stupid, the Wilpons that is. I think in topday&#8217;s market the Mets arer worth upwards of 1 billion dollars. After all is said and done they could come out clean and still have a few mil to live nicely. If they can&#8217;t get enough to cover all debts, the debtors will settle as they do on a short sale. If they don&#8217;t sell the alternative is lower attendance, more losses and the B word Bankruptcy. Now who would buy the Mets. Probably Einhorn partnering with others. Mark Cuban would be a looong shot. The Wilpons time has passed with the Mets and only a fan boycott will force them out.</p>
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		<title>By: steM</title>
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		<dc:creator>steM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keep in mind that the Mets no longer have a GCL team, and as a result a lot of the players on that Kingsport team are pretty young/underdeveloped for that league.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind that the Mets no longer have a GCL team, and as a result a lot of the players on that Kingsport team are pretty young/underdeveloped for that league.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bear in mind I said IF the org doesn&#039;t have money to spend...  I&#039;m not saying the organization is operating as such.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bear in mind I said IF the org doesn&#8217;t have money to spend&#8230;  I&#8217;m not saying the organization is operating as such.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article and excellent points.

I don&#039;t think there is enough &#039;funny money&#039; - as you put it - to fill all the holes we&#039;ve got going into 2013.  The payroll was slashed 50 MIL this season for a reason.  I believe until Johan and Bay&#039;s contracts come off the books end of next season, that 2013 might be just more of the same as 2012 has been.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article and excellent points.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there is enough &#8216;funny money&#8217; &#8211; as you put it &#8211; to fill all the holes we&#8217;ve got going into 2013.  The payroll was slashed 50 MIL this season for a reason.  I believe until Johan and Bay&#8217;s contracts come off the books end of next season, that 2013 might be just more of the same as 2012 has been.</p>
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		<title>By: gorgeguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorgeguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While most of the article is thoughtfully detailed, the one piece of the puzzle that sticks out to me pertains to the statement, &quot;team’s farm system is invaluable.&quot;

If this were one of the &quot;knowns&quot; regardless of $$, then it seems a team must make the draft extremely important. Yet, the Mets sign the fewest draft choices of any team. Why did this happen? 

I&#039;ve also stated in 2 other posts that KIngsport, our only Rookie level team in America, is not looking so hot for a team that pegs &quot;development&quot; as part of the solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While most of the article is thoughtfully detailed, the one piece of the puzzle that sticks out to me pertains to the statement, &#8220;team’s farm system is invaluable.&#8221;</p>
<p>If this were one of the &#8220;knowns&#8221; regardless of $$, then it seems a team must make the draft extremely important. Yet, the Mets sign the fewest draft choices of any team. Why did this happen? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also stated in 2 other posts that KIngsport, our only Rookie level team in America, is not looking so hot for a team that pegs &#8220;development&#8221; as part of the solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Connor O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connor O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;ll be able to re-finance the Citi Field, Team, and SNY debts]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ll be able to re-finance the Citi Field, Team, and SNY debts</p>
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		<title>By: Metfan Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metfan Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Off topic and maybe a stupid question but could a fellow Met fan answere this for me. I have been a Met fan since &#039;62 and I know the official business name was &quot;The New York METROPLITAN Baseball Club.&quot; but unofficially we are The Mets. I thought a few years ago they dropped the word Metropolitan and just went with Mets BUT when I listen to WFAN they have sportscasters who always use the term &quot;Metropolitans.&quot;  Why and are they correct? thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic and maybe a stupid question but could a fellow Met fan answere this for me. I have been a Met fan since &#8217;62 and I know the official business name was &#8220;The New York METROPLITAN Baseball Club.&#8221; but unofficially we are The Mets. I thought a few years ago they dropped the word Metropolitan and just went with Mets BUT when I listen to WFAN they have sportscasters who always use the term &#8220;Metropolitans.&#8221;  Why and are they correct? thanks.</p>
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