Comments on: Pedro Beato To Red Sox As PTBNL In Shoppach Trade

By: jdon

jdon — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:39:50 +0000

Beato has a fine arm and decent stuff. I think the mets thought they could fix his mechanics. I also think he is too damned dumb to correct simple physical techniques. They took a shot. Did not cost much. Bye bye.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:35:16 +0000

No Javi most of us here thought at the time we got him that he might not have been a BAD Acquisition but other here heraldd him as the sign of all the great things to come and the type of deisions we could expect from the great and Powerful Alderson who was going to turn this team around with all his wise moves and great evaluations…

But it would seem that he has given up or been wrong about every player he has ever brought here with the possible exception of Hairston and Baxter!

By: Javi

Javi — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:14:57 +0000

You guys mean to tell me that Beato is a valuable arm? He flat out stunk for us in almost every chance he was given. This guy fought fire with gasoline and you’re complaining that he was dealt? Come on! I like the deal. I only wish it had been made over a month ago when the team was still in contention. Pedro Beato, I wish you the best of luck in all your future endeavors.

By: jdon

jdon — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 12:45:39 +0000

Who cares? The guy lands in a different spot on the mound every pitch. If you do not have the capacity to learn and improve, you will fail at the highest levels.

By: Amazin

Amazin — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:22:43 +0000

A very lame defense of another “good” day for Alderson.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 04:00:29 +0000

You may be right. But we’re assuming Shoppach will be re-signed. The Mets had 39 men on the 40, so they presumably could have simply added Shoppach if they only gave up something like a non-prospect A ball pitcher. That’s of course assuming the Sox would have gone for that guy, which they may not have. But speaking strictly 40-man wise, a player from the 40 did not have to be removed in order to add Shoppach. Then if you assume Shoppach is gone after the season, anyhow, they’re just back to where they started. Do you know how many kids they have to add to protect them from the Rule V this winter? Or your best guess?

By: Trs86

Trs86 — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:28:58 +0000

I just think that due to the pending roster crunch it was trade or release for Beato.

By: NJstuckinTX

NJstuckinTX — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:18:17 +0000

Gotcha. I think this trade is not worth it if he does not re-sign. So, come post season, we’ll see…

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:13:41 +0000

I get all that. I just wish it wasn’t a young reliever that we’re not sure about yet. Actually, I wish the Shoppach trade never happened. He possesses zero upside. But if it HAD to happen (which it didn’t), I just wish it wasn’t a young reliever that we’re not sure about.

By: NJstuckinTX

NJstuckinTX — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:08:23 +0000

When you are mad in general, it helps to have an outlet, I guess.

By: Trs86

Trs86 — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:58:10 +0000

Muchado about most likely nothing is right. Remember many teams passed on Beato before and did again this time, same with Stoppach.

By: NJstuckinTX

NJstuckinTX — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:47:31 +0000

I hear you man. And wish he wasn’t unspectacular.

This is not letting Verlander go. This is much ado about nothing.

By: Trs86

Trs86 — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:47:29 +0000

It’s more about the roster cruch a coming I think.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:43:36 +0000

Yeah, but think about his situation. He was a Rule V that had never played above AA before. So he was thrust into a big league role by rule and was not bad last season. This season he was terrible, but coming off injury. I wish Beato had at least one full, healthy season with some work in the high minors under his belt before a decision was made to acquire a poor catcher for 50 games.

By: NJstuckinTX

NJstuckinTX — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:37:29 +0000

4.67 ERA with 5.6 K/9 and 3.7 BB/9 in 71 1/3 relief innings with the Mets over the last two seasons.

That is definitely unspectacular.

By: Connor O'Brien

Connor O'Brien — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:34:44 +0000

Oh I think you’re right

By: trs86

trs86 — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:56:45 +0000

We Have some big time 40 man issues coming next year so some may Have been cut to protect more important prospects.

By: trs86

trs86 — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:54:30 +0000

I am not saying block it for spite. I am saying we are dealing with two players who are not sought after.

By: trs86

trs86 — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:52:39 +0000

I thought based in my understanding it has to clear the trading teams league first starting with the bottom then it goes to the bottom of the other league.

By: trs86

trs86 — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:50:16 +0000

Actually if you could actually read you would notice I did mention that Stoppach was as well. Not sure why it matters.