Comments on: MMO Fair Or Foul: Phillip Evans Might Never Make It?

By: BadBadLeroyBrown

BadBadLeroyBrown — Wed, 08 Aug 2012 10:16:54 +0000

Justin Sean, you said…………..”All Mack meant was that Evans was PAID like a high pick, I thought you were intelligent enough to understand that. Guess not.”

And Mack said……. “has Evans started “to show…that he was worth the HIGH PICK?”

Where in that sentence does it say or lead you to believe he was referring to being PAID like a high pick??? I guess intelligent people should be mind readers and become assumption specialists and disregard what someone says…

You also said, “No need to taking shots at other people because you need something to write about”…..Yet in the same paragraph you insult Petey by questioning his lack of intelligence because he is not a mind reader like Ms.Cleo…

By: Metsie

Metsie — Wed, 08 Aug 2012 02:53:33 +0000

Yep I know all about PitchFX I have installed the system for many a Fox Broadcast!

Unfortunatly it’s one draw back is it doesn’t tell you what pitch it was that was thrown just the trajectory it took.

Can’t tell a slider from a curve at all.

By: Connor O'Brien

Connor O'Brien — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 23:46:00 +0000

Sure Des LOL
And you are right Des. Metsie, you should check out Brooks Baseball’s pitch f/x tool. It shows you the types of pitches to each batter, the release point, the spin, and more. You can also find the location of every hit using different tools at other places.
Here’s the link to the pitch f/x for Matt Harvey’s start on Sunday: http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/pfx.php?month=8&day=5&year=2012&game=gid_2012_08_05_nynmlb_sdnmlb_1%2F&pitchSel=518774&prevGame=gid_2012_08_05_nynmlb_sdnmlb_1%2F&prevDate=85

By: Des

Des — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 23:33:26 +0000

Time for a big chill, guys. Let’s enjoy the game and the Mets.
(P.S.: Modern electronic technology often gives us excellent insight into the nuances of pitches and many other aspects of games.)

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 22:56:12 +0000

Maybe your eyes miss a lot but Mine don’t!

And your eyes can tell you what kind of pitch he just struck out on or hit for a HR can your stat tell you that?

Nope it just says he got a hit or didn’t!

By: Connor O'Brien

Connor O'Brien — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 21:48:39 +0000

Never said stats were perfect. But neither are your eyes. Think about all the stuff your eyes miss. You may deny it but you’re missing quite a lot. Neither side is perfect and both are needed to really understand the game.

By: Met Maniac

Met Maniac — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 19:00:42 +0000

Holy crap!!! How did I miss this yesterday??? FLASH! NO HITTER ALERT! FLASH! METS TRAID Q FOR CASH! FLASH! JOHAN WILL SUCK IN 2012! FLASH! ADAM RUBIN IS MEAN TO ME! FLASH! I HAVE 50 TWITTER FOLLOWERS NOW! FLASH! ROBERT CARSON SUCKS! FLASH! MACK IS A HACK! FLASH! MATT BUDGELL CALLED ME AN OLD RETARD!

I LOVE MACKS METS HE IS THE PEE WEE HERMAN OF METS BLOGS!

By: Ali G

Ali G — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:57:32 +0000

Seems like you guys are killing Mack more than you are the scout. Peter wrote this article like he is Phillip Evans homeboy. No one knows how a 15th rounder in short season ball will turn out. Am I an Evans fan? Absolutely. But the fact is it won’t be until 2016 that you will have to start making plan for him. Relax. Chillax. And have some Kool Aid. We won’t see Evans for at least another 4 years. Who knows what type of prospect he will be in 2 years. There used to be a homeboy named Danny Muno. Some People were ticketing him as the real deal and potential starter. Then every homeboy learns that Muno took steroids. That Muno homeboy ruined his career. You got 2 legit players in TEJADA and MURPHY. Dont go looking around for the starting middle infielders in 2016. And Peter: YOU GOT TALENT HOMEBOY! You managed to take a quote and make it into a huge deal!
Chillax: all of you
BOOOYAKASHA- Ali G

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:34:09 +0000

Did you ever think about all the nuances you just threw away because you didn’t know how to quantize them into the equation?

The Brain doesn’t have to throw all of that away because not only is it aware of what happened it is also aware of the situation it happened in.

A guy goes 0-2 can you tell me what happened to him all day based on that?
A guy has a .500 OBP on the day…Do you know how well he hit the ball from that?

Numbers unless they take into account EVERY VARIABLE that existed at the time of the counting do not tell you the whole story!

And no computer on the planet has the computing power of the Human brain nor does it have the ability to percieve as much as the human being can in any given situation!

By: PitchNCatch

PitchNCatch — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:08:03 +0000

Keep up the good work Petey

By: Connor O'Brien

Connor O'Brien — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 15:34:17 +0000

LOL, sorry about the auto-correct on my other comment!

Well think about it this way- have you ever thought about how subjective the human eye can be when watching a game?

Also, some stats are better than others. Most people who like sabermetrics prefer certain ones to others. None of them are perfect, but the human eye definitely isn’t.

By: Metscentric

Metscentric — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 15:24:55 +0000

Used to read Mack all the time and believe it or not he had some great insights. Stopped heading there about a year ago when the site just became a mish mosh of indiscernible ramblings that made no sense. He seems to enjoy going off on other bloggers and beat writers on a daily basis and even takes shots at the Mets and players themselves which is when I ceased going there altogether. The fact this appeared on his site doesn’t surprise me one bit. He has some sort of an ax to grind with the Mets.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:46:45 +0000

Cause he started a publication about statistics!

Connor have you ever looked at the math and variables that creates some Sabermetrics?
Ever calculate them for yourself?

Or do you do what most guys do that like and love Sabers, Just look them up on Baseball reference and assume they are good because they are posted there?

By: Petey Pete

Petey Pete — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 12:50:27 +0000

Hey Little Nicky, that’s a great idea we should do a re-release of the Top 20, I love updating those things anyway. I don’t know if you caught it but I wrote a top Ten Pitchers in the system piece on July 30th.

Here’s the link: http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/07/mmo-revised-top-10-mets-pitching-prospects.html

I am planning on doing a Top Hitters piece, before going on to rank the system in various key positions. So Stay tuned, but you are right, I think we should update the top 20, and we will!

By: Connor O'Brien

Connor O'Brien — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 11:55:31 +0000

How do you know that he only looks at numbers? Just sayin’…
I don’t know why some fans are so against sabermetrics. Not trying to stack you personally O just don’t understand the animosity.

By: BadBadLeroyBrown

BadBadLeroyBrown — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 09:35:57 +0000

Without question the biggest mistake here was reading MACK METS! o_O

I heard he started arguments on Twitter with 2 teenagers Courtney Hawkins and mets prospect Matt Budgell and he was the only one acting like a teenager while they acted as adults.

By: Fonzie13

Fonzie13 — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 06:12:28 +0000

I’ve done that already. Not enough have panned out for us unfortunately.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 06:09:22 +0000

You will need to get a Scout Membership card but don’t worry the template is available at Office.com! LOL

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 06:08:21 +0000

I dismiss him because he looks only at numbers and there has never been a number yet to bat leadoff or cleanup!

In fact the number 6 has had no PAs in over 100 years of playing the game!

By: Lifelongmetsfan

Lifelongmetsfan — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 05:39:11 +0000

we should make a list of Met 1st Round Draft picks from 1980-2008 and see how each has paned out.