Comments on: Mets 2012 Season Will Be A Near Total Loss

By: Joe D

Joe D — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:51:47 +0000

Great post Rob. Big things were expected from Davis, Duda and Thole this season. With Pujols and Fielder going to the AL many of us expected he and Votto were locks for the ASG. So much for wishful thinking. Thole needs to go. Great kid, but enough is enough. Duda? I dont think I can go into 2013 counting on him as an everyday outfielder at this point.

By: L.J. Phipps

L.J. Phipps — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:55:52 +0000

I said it before the season, too many ifs. Then I got sucked in when they played well above average during most of the first half (despite the shoddy pen). Again, injuries seem to hit the Mets harder than other teams at the wrong time. So “bam” the second half starts and the July swoon comes on like a freight train and all the questions that were feared before the season, surfaced. No consistency! Some key role players got lost in the numbers game, Rottino & Quintanilla Baxter got hurt saving a no no. Duda & Kirk had trouble making adjustments but I still believe they are big leaguers. Pelfrey & Gee injuries were major setbacks, Young has yet to gain any velocity and I think he was rushed back. I don’t know what the rest of the season holds but I wish TC would go with a set line up, if they are writing off the season, let more of the youngsters come up and play to what they have (rather that than Bay, Cedeno, & Torres getting time) and please sell the team for the rest of our sakes.

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:02:36 +0000

To look at the entirety of the season and decide what it will be before it has fully played out I don’t get. This I am going to speculate is a reaction to the bad play overall in the 2nd half and that is all fair and good but we are really talking about a poor/horrid 12 game stretch where they went 1-11 start to the 2nd half. To me at least the Mets play is not like that 1 good month the Marlins had and every other month has been sub par. The Mets played 86 games of .534 ball more than half a season and they won despite many of the discussed issues.

Since that 1-11 stretch the Mets are 7-8 still not good but much more representative of where the team is at this time with it’s struggles.

This year may end up not being Ike’s best season but going through this season now how he did and coming out the other end still here may pay off for years to come for the Mets.

There are now words to express how well Tejada has played this season. Will he be a career .300 hitter? Can’t say but if he can be a steady glove at SS and a .280 hitter on top of that I think we will be good with that.

Wright has at least shown that his best years were not behind him and that last year was but a fluke with his play this season. I went into the season with a wait and see approach to see if indeed I felt the Mets should resign him and I have seen enough to hope the Mets can resign him but by the same token I can see the merits in trading him in certain scenarios or even not signing him if a contract exceeds certain levels. I like I did last year with Reyes feel that at this time a deal will eventually get done keeping Wright here but like last year it may turn out that he ends up in Detroit when all is said and done.

Like what I see from Harvey and Edgin and still believe that Niese can develop into a good starter. Add that to the coming out party of R.A. Dickey that is not too bad a group of pitchers there.

Murphy has proven 1 thing this 2012 season. He can play 2b everyday without being a huge liability and he may not hit for power but he can just flat out hit. The Mets could do a lot worse at 2b.

I still think Capt Kirk will be back playing OF and will be part of the starting OF in 2013 before all is said and done.

Are there still alot of holes? Hell yea like Swiss cheese but there is still a lot of games to be played and to for me to say at this time the year is a total loss would be getting ahead of myself.

By: Donal

Donal — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:51:52 +0000

Yeesh, so fatalist. Weren’t we supposed to lose 100 games this year?

Some of our young talent took strides forward:

1) Tejada looked very much like a major league short stop. I, and many others, were wrong about him.

2) Our young gun pitchers showed a lot of promise. Harvey made his debut and so far has looked good. I also think Niese has looked better this year. A little prone to the long ball when the curve isn’t working, but that will settle.

3) We know we need at least 1 real starting OF for the immediate future.

4) We know we need a catcher.

5) Daniel Murphy looks like a competent 2B

Did all of our problems magically disappear? No. Not even close. But, at least we know what they are and also when we seem to be getting stronger.

By: Little Nicky

Little Nicky — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:40:38 +0000

The Mets are doing everything in their power to make sure I never see a world championship in my life. They must not like me.

By: mhbgolf

mhbgolf — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:37:03 +0000

Basically I agree. Duda and Kirk to be kind have hit a speed bump. Will they be the solution or should we write them off. We need Niese to be a #2 which he is capable of becoming. Lefties develop late. Parnell is a 7th inning pitcher and lets be resigned to that.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:30:46 +0000

I agree that Pelfrey is now a nonfactor but that is due to his injury. Bay wa and emains useless and I doubt anyone xpected mch from him. Ike has been all pluses for me. I expected him to havea hard time coming back. Hehadso little time as a ML player then to go on the DL for pratically a year I am more than pleased at is growth over th year. The BP is stll a wreck but to me that is a grab bag. I don’t e Niese as having regressed. He looks to be an up an down kinda guy that may have a real good year here and there. His health was also a concern oming into this year. To put it bluntly we need an outfield and some BParms to be truely competitive. Last year we had no idea what we needed.

By: Seligman

Seligman — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:23:21 +0000

This team is five years away from relevancy and maybe longer than that. Beltran will never be replaced and neither will Reyes. Tejada is a good consolation prize, but he’s all alone like a needle in a haystack. There’s a lot to be concerned about from the top on down.

By: mhbgolf

mhbgolf — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:22:48 +0000

Actually there has been some progress as stated but still pitching with rookies has growing pains. Also the recovery of Chris Young and Santana and Dillion Gee is uncertain. Niese and Thole have taken a step back. Murphy, Wright and Dickey pluses. Ike pluses and minuses but net ok. Progress rating a stong “C” overall. Pelfrey and Bay are non-factors.

By: srt

srt — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:21:08 +0000

There was a reason we were predicted to finish under .500 and in last place this year.

First half was definitely fun, despite the god-awful BP. Second half so far, not so much….

We saw Johan pitch the first no hitter in franchise history.

We’re seeing RA Dickey pitching to what might be a CY winner season.

We’ve seen DWright playing more like the Wright of old, despite his struggles in the month of July.

We’ve seen Tejada take over SS with a more than credible effort, despite big shoes to fill when Reyes left.

I’m just going to enjoy the rest of the season, no matter how it plays out. I had them winning about 74 games and finishing in last coming into the season. Looks like we might be spared from last place but there’s too much left to play to know for sure.

Winter and no baseball will be coming all too soon.

LGM!

By: Nathan

Nathan — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:10:14 +0000

I understand that it can be difficult to find things to write about but this post confonds me. Fans do have short memories so let us not forget the uncertainties of this year. Santana injured, may never be back. Wright looked to be slipping into an averge player. Pelfrey, started last seaon opener. Gee, small sample size bt looked average. Tejada, small sample size but could go either way. Murphy, can he even play second without making a fool of himself. Davis, DL almost all season will he ever be healthy again. Torres, terrible year last year cn he bounce back. Duda, small sample size looks to be improving. Alot of the questions have been answered and more. Some may not be the answers we hoped but now we know. This year has seen the reemergance of Wright and Santana. The awesome play of Tejada. The growth of Murph and Davis getting his baseball legs back. Being negative is not witty or clever it is often the biproduct of mental laziness. This team is way better off than they were two years ago.

By: Alex in CT

Alex in CT — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:31:10 +0000

Great post. Your entire premise mimics my own and I would even go as far as to say, that we now have more areas of concern than we did in October of 2010. That certainly doesn’t seem like forward progress to me.