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2012
Harvey Too Wild, Offense Too Anemic As Braves Shutout Mets 4-0

Matt Harvey, making his fourth career start for the Mets, was too wild and the Mets offense was shutdown in a 4-0 loss to the Braves at Citi Field.
Harvey was plagued by walks tonight, as he allowed five bases on balls. The Mets rookie used his fastball much more than in his last start. Through his first three starts, Harvey threw his fastball 45% of the time, tonight it was over 70%. Luckily, it didn’t cost him too much. The one time it did, was the first batter of the game, Michael Bourn, who walked and then later scored on a Jason Heyward home run. Harvey was throwing up blanks in each inning after that and finished with six innings, two runs , two hits and three strikeouts. But it was those five walks that was really his only downfall tonight. Harvey threw 101 pitches in his third loss of the season.
Ramon Ramirez pitched the seventh inning with a hitless outing with one walk. Josh Edgin did not have as much luck, giving up a two-run homer to Dan Uggla before being pulled after getting just two outs. Jon Rauch finished up the eighth inning and Bobby Parnell pitched a one-two-three ninth with a strikeout.
Not much offense for the Mets tonight, just three hits: a single from Murphy and doubles from Rob Johnson and Scott Hairston. Five strikeouts for Mets hitters, along with zero walks.
Notes
Matt Harvey walked five batters, that tied the most he has allowed in any minor league start for him this season. Harvey also took a come-backer off the thigh, but was fine and stayed in the game.
Game Ball
Scott Hairston, because well…he’s Scott Hairston.
Up Next
Mets play game two of this three game series against the Braves on Saturday with Johan Santana making his return from the disabled list. He goes up against Kris Medlen and first pitch is set for 7:10 PM.
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NL East Standings
| Team | W | L | Pct. | GB |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Braves | 23 | 18 | .561 | - |
| Nationals | 23 | 19 | .548 | 0.5 |
| Phillies | 20 | 23 | .465 | 4.0 |
| Mets | 16 | 24 | .400 | 6.5 |
| Marlins | 11 | 31 | .262 | 12.5 |
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Want me to tell you how really really BAD the Mets are. The Braves played them with Mets killer Chipper Jones out, first string catcher Brian McCann being replaced by their backup catcher and some guy called Yanish at short. I watched the game from pitch one and the team is totally LIFELESS, the fans were like robots, and when they panned the dugout it was “A don’t give a s..t look on their faces.” Terry Collins should have the Mets uniform ripped from his back and put on the first train out of town. The only thing I can say is when the Mets are in town Citi Field is a toxic waste dump. If you can’t hit, can you at least try to drag a bunt to get something going. We have no outfield, no bullpen,. We have Dickey, Wright and Tejada and Hairston and the rest are missing in action. Yeah we faced a good pitcher tonight, not an ace, but on the Braves staff their number fice starter. Wow we are really this lousy!!
Metfan Lou — “Terry Collins should have the Mets uniform ripped from his back and put on the first train out of town.”
I was going to ask you to tell us how you really feel. It would have been some comic relief to your heartfelt response.
You crossed the line of providing a rational response with the comment I quoted above. Just what did Terry do or not do to merit having his uniform torn from his back? And why should he be put on the train to nowhere? Maybe you want Wally brought in to show us how a well-intended nutjob would handle the job. Wally is a good baseball man but there are at least a hundred good baseball men in baseball at one place or another. Wally has the emotional maturity of a 14 year old kid. If you don’t agree, please explain why he’s featured on some Youtube videos acting like a guy from the local insane asylum.
Des: Look do you remember the pillaging that Willie Randolph had to endure until he got run out of town. I was no fan of Willie’s and never called for his ouster, but TC is being treated like a saint compared to Willie. My over the top rhetoric was to make a point. Time Teufel shopuld be our manager. I never said Wally should be in that spot.
Metfan Lou — Thanks for expanding your view. I’m not sure Terry should be the object of a lot of angst. But when a new manager is hired, maybe Teufel will be the guy.
Yeah baby, coming to play the Mets is like a walk in the park!
Its hard being a mets fan when your a lakers and cowboys fan. While teams spoil me with hope, success and will do anything to improve a weekness my other team(Mets) do nothing. They just sit back and watch a team fail.
And how many weeks ago was it that we were in the wild card lead by one game? Such a quick fall would demoralize any team and fan base.
No general manager should panic and make rash decisions over night but since trade negotiations aren’t made overnight something could have been done to try and stop the slide as it was starting to unfold the middle of July. Sandy said the serious Beltran talks began the first of the month which meant he was in negotiations for more than three weeks so nobody waits till the trade deadline to talk. There were players that we now see were available for a song (i.e., cash and low minor leaguers and taking on one’s salary).
As of July 15 when we were at the beginning our slide having lost four straight, we were still only 3.5 game out (four in the lost column) in the wild card. This obviously doesn’t mean that the season could have been different had moves been made But what it would mean is that at least the front office tried to do something and we couldn’t be angry at them for doing nothing. Again, as Sandy pointed out, when he wanted to trade Beltran he began talks in earnest a good three weeks before doing so. So he could have tried to stop the bleeding back then – unless he hadn’t been dealing with other teams except in the case of trading Hairston.
And look how poor attendance was on a Friday concert night against the hated Braves…..
It is amazing to me we have won only TWO games at home in the last 12 or so. What must be going through a season ticket holder or a casual fan who has a choice of entertainment venues. I think that very soon the Mets will have to have buy one get one free or the whole family gets in for 10 bucks or something like that. You are right when they made no moves they have now Guaranteed they will bleed even more money and as the losses line up they won’t even have any pricing power with Wright. If you were David Wright why would you stay a Met when you can go to a contender or a team that is close. Wright’s hometown is Virginia Beach and the Orioles are close and would be a perfect fit playing in the infield shadow of the great one Carl Ripken. These are dark days for our beloved Mets and you know we deserve better but from the Wilpons on down, they don’t give a S… One thing for sure everytime I see Terry Collins in the dugout I want to puke.
Wright is gone and it will take the Mets longer to be a contender. Back to the pre Piazza 80′s.
Cheap tickets and empty stadium.
Watched just a few innings. What a desultory effort…disgusting. Why not forfeit, if that’s the only effort you can muster. Wright is beginning to make me want to vomit. He has the demeanor of Jason Bay at the plate.
I’ll say this, while one can focus on Harvey’s five BBs (which sucked), the real story is the kid’s intestinal fortitude. Basically, he pitched very well, and he didn’t quit. He’s completely in the “figuring-things-out-stage,” and while there’s no way to know where he’s going to be in two-three years, I do think he has all the makings of a special pitcher. Harvey is the one rookie who truly excites me about the Mets future. That might not be saying much, but we might not be quite so far away from turning fortune’s around as the play and standings make things look.
Russell: Agree with your comments. I like Harvey and he matured a little last night and like his not give-in attitude. He is going to be a solid starter. I think the umpire didn’t help him. He called a very tight strikezone, especially in that first inning and I think he should of had two strikeouts and left the first down 1-0. Don’t get me started on the umps, overall I think they SUCK and I’ll leave it at that. They favor certain pitchers and teams and that is all I will say.My concern is that we have such a promising potential starting staff and very little other talent . Do you think in the off season we will have to trade talented pitching to fill the holes in the field?
Lou, your question largely hinges on whether or not the F.O. gives a you-know-what about 2013. If there is some determination to really build this club, then a pitcher or two will go. Package guys like Schwinless and Hef for al I care.
I don’ blame the ump or Harvey, it is Johnson that is at fault. When your a catcher and you see your young pitcher is having trouble locating his fastball, “you” make the adjustments. I had no trouble with first pitch fastballs that is great to get ahead. Then when you see that he could not duplicate it “high” in the zone to get strike 3, you move to the secondary pitches. Call the slider down and in on lefthanded hitters and use that curve on the righties change the batters eye angle. Yes, you have to show the fastball, but Harvey would have been better served if Johnson would have called a better game utilizing the other pitches. He has been working exclusively with Matt, so you should know when he has issues with location (that was one of the knocks before he came up). Even showing the occasional change up, would have changed the eye angle on the batters and they would have had to look for the other pitches. 5 walks should have been charged to Johnson, he did not help Harvey very much last night.
Lack of competent ML hitters, lack of depth on the farm to produce competent ML hitters ready to step in, lack of power for the most part……..and you have what’s going on now.
Not much offense would be correct. Harvey got beat for that 2 run hr but gave up no more runs as he continues to develop and learn from his starts. This time throwing more fastballs than his last start. He deserved a better fate than getting stuck with that loss.
Santana on the hill tonight showing hopefully no effects of arm fatigue or favoring the arm at all.
LGM!