Yeah me and the LOUD GUY are wrong for knowing what happened and talking about it!
Your Right because your Donal and can say whatever you want even if it isn’t true because facts are not as important as your Agenda!

But, go ahead, keep back pedaling, keeping changing the story, keep trying to derail the conversation. Keep making grandiose claims.

I’ll just take it as an admission of defeat. I accept your concession.

Odd that a guy who claims I didnt’t check the game logs makes a statement he calls fact and then says he didn’t check the game logs for yesterday!

Your so full of it your near the point of exploding!

Seriously, let it go. For once, just gracefully bow out and admit you are outgunned. It is a silly little talking point and there is so much more actual stuff to criticize.

Don’t go on your usual howling, inaccurate, and often irrelevant rant. You just drag the conversation down and make yourself look foolish.

THATS THE POINT!

Admit it you can’t prove a thing your just throwing crap up there and hope someone believes you!

You made the whole damn thing up!

And I haven’t looked at yesterday’s yet. And even if they did let a bunch of 1st pitch fastballs go by yesterday, it doesn’t negate everything that has happened prior.

How many first pitch breaking balls does MLB.com say were thrown in yesterday’s game?

So, you can either listen to the loud guy on TV who is professionally and personally invested in his point being right, or you can actually learn something.

As to hitting, supposedly Hudgins in an interview said that working count was suggested but told to swing at 1st hittable pitch so who is to blame; trying to work count and get into BP of other teams, most who have better ones than Mets, or lack of communication between players and new hitting philosophy stressed by SA or Hudgins or TC?

Keith also was commenting on how many fastballs down the plate Mets batters were taking and other teams saw this and Mets got beat quite a bit by teams tha pumped in first pitch fastballs putting Met hitters behind the count.
Who promoted this hitting philosophy? CYA will be in full swing soon.

There are people who use the word “computer” the way Glenn Beck/Michael Moore uses “liberal/conservative”. And the results are often the same.

“There’s a difference between working the count to get into a hitters or fastball count and trying to work out a walk.”

Ya, the first is what Hudgens is teaching guys. the second is…well it is nothing.

“The Met’s are not very good at making adjustments. They aren’t dong a good job and recognizing the pitchers approach. There times to be aggressive and times to take. They don’t seem to understand the difference.”

Is that due to some nebulous philosophy or due to the hitters not being very good?

“Nobody has hit for power in the 2nd half. The team SLG the past month is last in the majors at 347…that’s Luis Castillo territory.”

They didn’t hit for a lot of power in the first half. And everyone agrees the power outage is a big problem. But to say it is due to a focus on OBP is specious reasoning at best.

Guys knew that Ike can’t hit the curve and he’ll chase them so that’s all he gets. Especially back door stuff. Ike’s swing is big and loopy…it’s part of the problems guys like like have.

Duda’s problem is much more like the rest of the team. I have no problem working the count and taking pitches. But the problem I see, which Keith and Bobby O both point out it; many times the Met’s will work themselves into hitters counts, then they get a fastball and the don’t swing. There’s a difference between working the count to get into a hitters or fastball count and trying to work out a walk.

I still remember when I was young and every time Straw got ahead 2-0 or 3-1, he was looking to hit a bomb…and it seemed like he always did.

The Met’s are not very good at making adjustments. They aren’t dong a good job and recognizing the pitchers approach. There times to be aggressive and times to take. They don’t seem to understand the difference.

Mex points this out…the Mets spend too much time on the computer and not enough time just going up and hitting.

When we are all said and done, getting on base or walking is great, but you don’t get RBI’s by walking…we need our big bats to hit like they are big hitters. I think Mex said it last night, they have a line up full of table setters, but no run producers. His OBP is nice, but when you have no speed and low SLG then runs are going to be hard to come by.

Nobody has hit for power in the 2nd half. The team SLG the past month is last in the majors at 347…that’s Luis Castillo territory.

Despite the fact they knew Young wasn’t going to be immediatly available and the fact that Santana was very likely to have a relapse or need to be shut down due to coming off a surgery and missing an entire season and a half of baseball.

They begrudgingly brought up Harvey about a start too late.
If they had done it from the get go and he got us a win then that losing streak coming off the ASG maybe is not as bad and Sandy doesn’t go make things worse by waving the white flag even before we go on the road to Arizona!

What your seeing now is a team that is taking it’s cue from thier Front Office.
They gave up making an effort and so has the team especially the offense!

Everyone (including the GM) said we sufferred from a distinct lack of power yet here we are yesterday one of our HR hitters down in the Minors and another sitting on the bench against most LHPs

They have given up and I’m sad to say I think Terry has too!
By now he would have gone off on this team as he did last september but it really hasn’t happened and even if it did I don’t think it has the same affect.

The team has seen the FO’s white flag and is honoring the surrender!
and it’s showing in the statlines and scoreboard!

I have a question, if Bobby O called RA Dickey the best left handed fireballer he’s ever seen, what would you say? Would you agree with Bobby O? Or would you realize that what Bobby O is saying is factually incorrect?

You can’t say they take too many first pitch fastballs when they simply aren’t getting them.

And this isn’t about statistics or experience as a player. This is about what actually happened in the games.

WOw.. just Wow…. I mean, i know some of you think you know it all, but just wow… Now you (a guy who NEVER play baseball just watch) is stating that a guy who played baseball and watches the game is wrong and you’re right? Wow….