Zack Wheeler Has Second Straight Bad Outing

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• Hank July 25, 2012 at 2:07 pm

  I wonder how much of his struggles are based to them stubbornly keeping him down at AA. If Harvey had his head in New York and that’s why he got shelled. What happens when there’s all this movement around you and you’re still in Binghamton. That said, he’s got to get back on track or he won’t make Buffalo until next April.
  • Kymets July 25, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    I was thinking the same thing
• Alex in CT July 25, 2012 at 2:29 pm

  It isn’t just Wheeler either. Harvey also had two straight bad starts. Not good to see while the front office sits on their hands whistling Dixie about 2014..
• Des July 25, 2012 at 2:54 pm

  “On July 20, the right-hander was lit up for eight earned runs in 3.2 innings by Bowie, having allowed six hits and three walks.”

  He also had a couple of HBP. So it was a bad day. But only three of the hits, two singles and one double, were not grounders with eyes. So Wheeler really lit himself up with some bad luck thrown into the mix.
  • Joey D. July 25, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Hi Des,

    Did you happen to see any video of those hits in question? It would interesting to see if they were lucky to find those holes or if the batters took level swings to place them toward that direction.
• Alex68 July 25, 2012 at 2:57 pm

  Hmmmm……………… shhhhhhhhh…… Best prospect in mets Org and sandy’s gold medal… Can’t talk bad or negative about him ok.. Keep it quiet..
  • Even Flow July 25, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Harvey goes through the same thing? It’s dead arm. Wheeler? It’s funny.

    Interesting concept.
  • Kay July 25, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    His performance was reported, which was not very good today, that is not talking badly about the guy, well not for people that are mature and understand what is being written and not interested in baiting into yet another nasty argument because your life is so shallow.

    I know you’d be the one gloating if he does fail because SA TRADED for him, instead of hoping a guy that wears METS across his chest does well.
    • Joey D. July 25, 2012 at 9:26 pm

      Hi Kay,

      Will not deny that some of us might be fighting off that temptation you mentioned. But the bottom line is that he is a Met and that Sandy Alderson and his staff are going to be judged on their overall performance and not just the Wheeler trade.

      For anyone to think he was not going to go through a rough stretch at one point would be foolish. But for anyone to take a rough stretch as indication that he is not all that he is hyped up to be is just as foolish as well.

      It will be Wheeler’s overall performance that will determine what kind of pitcher he might or might not become. It does seem, however, that when his control began settling in, he began to be hit hard. Scouts all said he had to master his control problems in order to be successful. So what this might indicate is that he still has to learn how to better locate pitches within the strike zone – and that is what the minors is there to teach.

      The result we can only wait and see.
      • Mr North Jersey July 25, 2012 at 9:51 pm

        ” It does seem, however, that when his control began settling in, he began to be hit hard.”

        Out of curiosity. When would you say was the point his control began settling in?
        • Joey D. July 25, 2012 at 10:18 pm

          Hi North,

          Actually, it was when you began posting figures on his improved ball to strike ratio and limited amount of walks over a few games. Maybe not immediately after that, but am sure you understand what I was wondering about – that part of his dominance had to do with hitters chasing pitches outside the strike zone and that he could get away with this in the minors but not in the majors. He is now perhaps learning how to get a pitch to break, slide and sink just enough within the strike zone to fool the batter, which will make him a pitcher and not just a thrower.
          • Mr North Jersey July 25, 2012 at 10:26 pm

            “Maybe not immediately after that…”
            Yes that sounds better cause by my count he had a good 7 starts before he started to get hit similar to what we saw today.

            Thanks for expanding.
  • jessep July 25, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    why are you rooting against a prospect who means so much to the future of the franchise?
    • Alex68 July 26, 2012 at 9:49 am

      why are you rooting against a prospect who means so much to the future of the franchise?”

      Funny, coming from you i’d glady say i don’t give a fu** what you think… You’re the same guy who trashed reyes while he was a met, don’t like any player who wears a met uniform and now you’re gonna tell me i am rooting against him just because i said sandy’s gold medal is STRUGGLING in Double A nonetheless?? Stop slurping everything sandy does, snake…
• Original Mets Fan July 25, 2012 at 2:59 pm

  Just let him finish the season at AA, I mean we are talking six more weeks to their season. What is this urgency for a team that wont be relevant for another five years.
• Mr North Jersey July 25, 2012 at 3:03 pm

  Must be courageous. 1st Harvey then Familia and now Wheeler. sigh.
  • Mr North Jersey July 25, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    LoL spell check contagious*
    • Joey D. July 25, 2012 at 9:32 pm

      Hi North,

      I too was wondering whether or not the whole organizations swims or sinks together at the same time. I mean, there must be something good going on other than great ticket prices on great seats now being given away on stub hub.

      Also think the Mets are taking this 50th anniversary thing too seriously. We were playing like this in 1962 while the Yankees were running away with the pennant (now known as a division).
      • Mr North Jersey July 25, 2012 at 10:02 pm

        50th anniversary thing too seriously?

        Coming from you even though I know it’s tongue in cheek that is funny considering how you love to talk about the good old days of Mets past.
        • Joey D. July 25, 2012 at 10:54 pm

          Yeah, North,

          That was a different era and altogether different set of circumstances. Though people can read about those days in books, one had to experience it in order to understand what it was like to be a new breeder and the fun we had.
• Gina July 25, 2012 at 3:12 pm

  Geez it’s not just the Mets having a bad second half. It seems everyone is infected.
• Mykey July 25, 2012 at 3:27 pm

  Could it be fatigue? Is he at or above his career innings pitched in a year?
  • Mykey July 25, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Just checked his stats and he is very close to his career high of 115 set last year. Perhaps that is why he has been awful the past 2 games.
    • Mr North Jersey July 25, 2012 at 4:04 pm

      I guess you could speculate that as a possibility. I am more concerned in hearing 1st is there any discomfort at all something one always worries about and 2nd how was his velocity?

      Just looking at the box score the 1st thing that stands out is he had no walks and threw 58 oh his 84 pitches for strikes (69%) in his 4 innings of work. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t wild in the strike zone but until one hears more it is hard to say.

      The other thing to take into account if it wasn’t something physical and his velocity was good and he wasn’t wild is could he be working on a pitch. Still no amount of working should allow for 10 hits 5 earned runs over 4 innings.
      • Donal July 25, 2012 at 4:25 pm

        Or it could be they just had him working on something and didn’t care what the box score says.
• Matt July 25, 2012 at 4:26 pm

  Bump in the road. Big deal. I realize the sky is flaming red and falling in Mets land lately, but Zack Wheeler was never coming to the bigs in ’12 anyway. Not a big deal.
• Mitch July 25, 2012 at 4:59 pm

  Hey, even saviors can have a bad day sometimes.
• Nick July 25, 2012 at 5:54 pm

  It’s the end of the world people. He is gonna have bad starts. Keep calm, and cheer on